Football governance

[mighty__mag]

So apparently Football needs an independent regulator.....so who came up with this lot:-

 

Who is part of the group putting the manifesto forward?

 

David Bernstein - former FA and Manchester City chairman

Gary Neville - former England and Manchester United defender

Denise Lewis - British former Olympic heptathlon gold medal winner

Andy Burnham - Mayor of Greater Manchester

David Davies - Former FA executive director

Helen Grant - Conservative MP

Lord Mervyn King - former Bank of England governor and ex-Aston Villa director

Greg Scott - Lawyer

 

And what the hell is the Mayor of Manchester doing in this group apart from representing one of the “big 2”

 

One of the criteria was the exploiting of clubs and fans.

 

Gary Neville might want to look again at his input, and question his employers who are currently exploiting fans by charging 14.99 to watch a match.

[Sima]

Neville openly supported Project Big Picture as well.

 

Rat-faced nonce.

[gazza ladra]

I’ve had a look on both Man U and Liverpool forums to see what they were saying. Liverpool fans were surprisingly more disgraceful than the Man U lot.

 

Surprisingly?

[Kimbo]

Well I always saw Man U fans as the worst of the worst, but my observation is that they have more awareness than Liverpool fans, who seem to be living a fantasy in which their club is a persecuted hero.

[Sima]

A good chunk of Liverpool fans being total pricks isn't a surprise tbf considering their behaviour at our game a couple of seasons ago.

[Dr.Spaceman]

Well I always saw Man U fans as the worst of the worst, but my observation is that they have more awareness than Liverpool fans, who seem to be living a fantasy in which their club is a persecuted hero.

 

I went to college with a bunch of Man Utd fans and was brainwashed into despising Liverpool even more than I already did. Nearly 20 years on it's stuck, I can't stand them and care very little for anything related to Liverpool Football Club.

[Paully]

Damning article this - corrupt as;

 

https://theathletic.co.uk/2133409/2020/10/16/the-big-six-football-premier-league/

 

"In the eyes of those present, it was the ultimate “them and us” episode — the moment the illusion of solidarity across the Premier League was shattered once and for all.

It was a Premier League shareholders meeting in November 2016 and, while media coverage beforehand had focused on the safe-standing debate, by far the biggest issue at stake that day was the need to find a new broadcast partner in China.

 

Among several proposals on the table, the most popular was from pay-per-view company PPTV, who were offering £523 million for the right to stream every Premier League match in China over the three-year period from 2019-20. After the pros and cons were debated at length, an executive from one of the bigger clubs ventured they were going to have to go away and think about it. No, said the league’s executive chairman Richard Scudmore; this had to be decided here and now.

 

And so, as they broke off for coffee and biscuits, a remarkable scene unfolded. There, in full view of their counterparts from the other 14 clubs, the executives from Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur formed their own huddle in a corner of the room and proceeded to debate among themselves, in hushed tones, before reaching a consensus that they then took back to the table when the full meeting resumed.

“It was just so brazen,” says an executive from one of the other 14 clubs. “A few things had emerged before that about them having their own meetings. There had been a growing sense of a divide between the biggest clubs and the rest of us. But that really seemed to cement it in everyone’s minds.”

 

 

[Guest neesy111]

Fucking hell, that can get fucked.

[NG32]

Damning article this - corrupt as;

 

https://theathletic.co.uk/2133409/2020/10/16/the-big-six-football-premier-league/

 

"In the eyes of those present, it was the ultimate “them and us” episode — the moment the illusion of solidarity across the Premier League was shattered once and for all.

It was a Premier League shareholders meeting in November 2016 and, while media coverage beforehand had focused on the safe-standing debate, by far the biggest issue at stake that day was the need to find a new broadcast partner in China.

 

Among several proposals on the table, the most popular was from pay-per-view company PPTV, who were offering £523 million for the right to stream every Premier League match in China over the three-year period from 2019-20. After the pros and cons were debated at length, an executive from one of the bigger clubs ventured they were going to have to go away and think about it. No, said the league’s executive chairman Richard Scudmore; this had to be decided here and now.

 

And so, as they broke off for coffee and biscuits, a remarkable scene unfolded. There, in full view of their counterparts from the other 14 clubs, the executives from Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur formed their own huddle in a corner of the room and proceeded to debate among themselves, in hushed tones, before reaching a consensus that they then took back to the table when the full meeting resumed.

“It was just so brazen,” says an executive from one of the other 14 clubs. “A few things had emerged before that about them having their own meetings. There had been a growing sense of a divide between the biggest clubs and the rest of us. But that really seemed to cement it in everyone’s minds.”

 

 

 

Wankers

[Sean]

Whats their (the 'big' 6) plan?

 

They must have known this was a non-starter. Maybe the real plan is to be unveiled next?

 

Cunts either way.

[Shearergol]

Why are Arsenal and Tottenham even involved? I get that Man City and Chelsea have managed to buy themselves into the group.

[manorpark]

Damning article this - corrupt as;

 

https://theathletic.co.uk/2133409/2020/10/16/the-big-six-football-premier-league/

 

"In the eyes of those present, it was the ultimate “them and us” episode — the moment the illusion of solidarity across the Premier League was shattered once and for all.

It was a Premier League shareholders meeting in November 2016 and, while media coverage beforehand had focused on the safe-standing debate, by far the biggest issue at stake that day was the need to find a new broadcast partner in China.

 

Among several proposals on the table, the most popular was from pay-per-view company PPTV, who were offering £523 million for the right to stream every Premier League match in China over the three-year period from 2019-20. After the pros and cons were debated at length, an executive from one of the bigger clubs ventured they were going to have to go away and think about it. No, said the league’s executive chairman Richard Scudmore; this had to be decided here and now.

 

And so, as they broke off for coffee and biscuits, a remarkable scene unfolded. There, in full view of their counterparts from the other 14 clubs, the executives from Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur formed their own huddle in a corner of the room and proceeded to debate among themselves, in hushed tones, before reaching a consensus that they then took back to the table when the full meeting resumed.

“It was just so brazen,” says an executive from one of the other 14 clubs. “A few things had emerged before that about them having their own meetings. There had been a growing sense of a divide between the biggest clubs and the rest of us. But that really seemed to cement it in everyone’s minds.”

 

 

 

 

Just think of the fantastic, massive clubs that would be fighting for the exciting Premier League Title every year, if these six "parasites" were kicked out.

 

After a VERY short-term financial hit, everything, absolutely everything, would be so much better.

 

As time passed we would never even remember them, and it would be a lesson in what happens when personal greed takes you over.

 

I would hope the other clubs at least 'propose' voting the pointless f*cks out, even if it doesn't happen.

[Chicane]

So what is their plan? A new league of....six teams?

 

I wonder how long fans would enjoy playing the same fixtures every month. Wonder how long Man Utd fans would enjoy knowing that the only thing they have to compete for every year is not finishing bottom of their new "league"

[Wullie]

The thing that always makes me laugh reading stuff like that is the absolute brass neck of Spurs, who seem to have categorically proven they are too big for English football given their trophy haul in the last 20 years: the 2008 League Cup.

[Thomson Mouse]

So obvious what stopped our takeover now

[manorpark]

So obvious what stopped our takeover now

 

Yes, it is now very obvious (it was always pretty obvious) what has delayed our takeover.

 

Nothing will stop it.

[Kimbo]

The thing that always makes me laugh reading stuff like that is the absolute brass neck of Spurs, who seem to have categorically proven they are too big for English football given their trophy haul in the last 20 years: the 2008 League Cup.

 

It would be hilarious if a European super league was formed and they were left out, 2 league titles in your history shouldn’t get you into such a group. The others would drop them no problem if it came down to it.

[geordie_b]

I still like the idea of the 'Other 14' coming up with their own plan that fucks the 'Big 6', would be incredible

[Interpolic]

Damning article this - corrupt as;

 

https://theathletic.co.uk/2133409/2020/10/16/the-big-six-football-premier-league/

 

"In the eyes of those present, it was the ultimate “them and us” episode — the moment the illusion of solidarity across the Premier League was shattered once and for all.

It was a Premier League shareholders meeting in November 2016 and, while media coverage beforehand had focused on the safe-standing debate, by far the biggest issue at stake that day was the need to find a new broadcast partner in China.

 

Among several proposals on the table, the most popular was from pay-per-view company PPTV, who were offering £523 million for the right to stream every Premier League match in China over the three-year period from 2019-20. After the pros and cons were debated at length, an executive from one of the bigger clubs ventured they were going to have to go away and think about it. No, said the league’s executive chairman Richard Scudmore; this had to be decided here and now.

 

And so, as they broke off for coffee and biscuits, a remarkable scene unfolded. There, in full view of their counterparts from the other 14 clubs, the executives from Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur formed their own huddle in a corner of the room and proceeded to debate among themselves, in hushed tones, before reaching a consensus that they then took back to the table when the full meeting resumed.

“It was just so brazen,” says an executive from one of the other 14 clubs. “A few things had emerged before that about them having their own meetings. There had been a growing sense of a divide between the biggest clubs and the rest of us. But that really seemed to cement it in everyone’s minds.”

 

 

 

Wankers

Reminds me of the cliques on here tbh.

[Guest reefatoon]

Damning article this - corrupt as;

 

https://theathletic.co.uk/2133409/2020/10/16/the-big-six-football-premier-league/

 

"In the eyes of those present, it was the ultimate “them and us” episode — the moment the illusion of solidarity across the Premier League was shattered once and for all.

It was a Premier League shareholders meeting in November 2016 and, while media coverage beforehand had focused on the safe-standing debate, by far the biggest issue at stake that day was the need to find a new broadcast partner in China.

 

Among several proposals on the table, the most popular was from pay-per-view company PPTV, who were offering £523 million for the right to stream every Premier League match in China over the three-year period from 2019-20. After the pros and cons were debated at length, an executive from one of the bigger clubs ventured they were going to have to go away and think about it. No, said the league’s executive chairman Richard Scudmore; this had to be decided here and now.

 

And so, as they broke off for coffee and biscuits, a remarkable scene unfolded. There, in full view of their counterparts from the other 14 clubs, the executives from Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur formed their own huddle in a corner of the room and proceeded to debate among themselves, in hushed tones, before reaching a consensus that they then took back to the table when the full meeting resumed.

“It was just so brazen,” says an executive from one of the other 14 clubs. “A few things had emerged before that about them having their own meetings. There had been a growing sense of a divide between the biggest clubs and the rest of us. But that really seemed to cement it in everyone’s minds.”

 

 

 

Wankers

Reminds me of the cliques on here tbh.

 

[geordie john]

 

I have always suspected that the 'top' (define this?) 4 or 6 have wanted to be part of a European league, so they could play the likes of Barcelona, Bayern, PSG etc every week rather than go to the dreadfully poor places like Watford, Norwich or even West Brom. This action just confirms this. How else can they propose the restructure then vote against it? Surely it's the first steps in forcing a divorce from the PL? You can be absolutely certain that the 'elite' clubs in Europe have all had clandestine talks and meetings about turning the Champions League into a full time league. It's beginning to head that way any way with the planned expanded tournament.

 

They will  negotiate their own TV rights, no relegation, no intruders. Then watch as crowds diminish until it's all corporate hospitality. God rot them all. The day will come when the American owners who do love a good Franchise operation, will realise it isn't working or profitable enough and they'll drop them like a stone, then watch them crumble from afar.

 

The fact the the PL even let them discuss and overrule another clubs takeover (ours in the summer, but it could be anyone's at any time in the future) is disgusting enough and how the PL let them get away with it is testimony to the utter toothless and subservient behaviour of the PL and it's spineless chairman.

 

As others have pointed out the 'top' 6 need their wings clipping big time. They are part of the PL and must abide by its rules or they can go fuck off and play with themselves. Time for the PL to grow some big balls.

 

I'd rather we were in a real league with honest clubs and honest supporters rather than the manufactured future proposed. So Watford can win the league. Why not? Leicester did, and wasn't that a joy to watch? Stuff you big 6. Stuff you.

[nufcjb]

I fucking I hope at least 1 of those 6 clubs cunts finish outside outside the top six this season. Man U hopefully.

[TRon]

Damning article this - corrupt as;

 

https://theathletic.co.uk/2133409/2020/10/16/the-big-six-football-premier-league/

 

"In the eyes of those present, it was the ultimate “them and us” episode — the moment the illusion of solidarity across the Premier League was shattered once and for all.

It was a Premier League shareholders meeting in November 2016 and, while media coverage beforehand had focused on the safe-standing debate, by far the biggest issue at stake that day was the need to find a new broadcast partner in China.

 

Among several proposals on the table, the most popular was from pay-per-view company PPTV, who were offering £523 million for the right to stream every Premier League match in China over the three-year period from 2019-20. After the pros and cons were debated at length, an executive from one of the bigger clubs ventured they were going to have to go away and think about it. No, said the league’s executive chairman Richard Scudmore; this had to be decided here and now.

 

And so, as they broke off for coffee and biscuits, a remarkable scene unfolded. There, in full view of their counterparts from the other 14 clubs, the executives from Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur formed their own huddle in a corner of the room and proceeded to debate among themselves, in hushed tones, before reaching a consensus that they then took back to the table when the full meeting resumed.

“It was just so brazen,” says an executive from one of the other 14 clubs. “A few things had emerged before that about them having their own meetings. There had been a growing sense of a divide between the biggest clubs and the rest of us. But that really seemed to cement it in everyone’s minds.”

 

 

 

 

Just think of the fantastic, massive clubs that would be fighting for the exciting Premier League Title every year, if these six "parasites" were kicked out.

 

After a VERY short-term financial hit, everything, absolutely everything, would be so much better.

 

As time passed we would never even remember them, and it would be a lesson in what happens when personal greed takes you over.

 

I would hope the other clubs at least 'propose' voting the pointless f*cks out, even if it doesn't happen.

 

Honestly think there's some truth to this. CL is already a mini league and there's more than enough games to satisfy tv audiences. I don't think the big 6 would last long if the other PL clubs told them to do one and we carried on without them.

 

I would say the same if we were one of them btw. European nights are great, but they would get old pretty quickly if they became the main course rather than the cherry on top. The PL is the bedrock of our very successful football league. If you start diluting that you risk killing the golden goose.

[wormy]

If the six fucked off to a European super league, how many years do we get to enjoy the new style PL before the next Billy Big Bollocks clubs are determined and want a bigger piece of the pie?

[Happinesstan]

If the six fucked off to a European super league, how many years do we get to enjoy the new style PL before the next Billy Big Bollocks clubs are determined and want a bigger piece of the pie?

 

If the takeover goes ahead that would be us.