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Ben Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) His final opportunity yesterday to win over the fans and he did what he has done since day one, tarred us all with the same brush and insulted us. Wallsend boy clubs Steve Bruce never got involved with the grass routes in the area (like a certain Spanish fella did) he never mixed or spent time in the area in his entire time here he did one radio Newcastle interview and gave a few quid to the foodbank. Edwards is trying to convince everyone that Bruce is the victim and because he was the mouthpiece of a failing regime he needs respect and dignity. Nothing could be further from the truth Bruce was part of the prom from day one he's a patsy and a coward. His reward was to have his master pay him £8 million with someone else's money, I'm a genuine bloke that doesn't wish ill on anyone, but fuck Bruce, he danced with the devil and won at the expense of the people and the area he's from. He was right about one thing though, if his parents were alive they would be very disappointed. Edited October 21, 2021 by Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 7 hours ago, midds said: I'll happily admit to not giving him a chance based purely on the fact he didn't deserve a chance. His managerial CV is measly, tattered and barren as fuck and he simply didn't warrant an appointment at any PL club. He's achieved precisely nothing as a manager, absolutely zero, he's a proven failure. Every Newcastle fan knew he was going to fail and the only question was how long it would take. He inherited a very encouraging, disciplined, organised and motivated team and his complete lack of ability and nefarious personality gradually undid all of the good Rafa had ingrained in the squad. The lack of fans last season helped to paper over the cracks for a while and, for anyone monitoring the table rather than actually watching matches, it appeared as if he was "doing a great job". The fans, as ever, can see beyond that and know what's actually happening. The connection broke irrevocably and the horrible cunt seemed determined to cast himself as a pariah. I feel a sense of relief I'll never have to see or listen to the fat, gormless galoot ever again. The money spent getting him out is probably the best cash the new regime will ever spend. I couldn't give a fuck what he does or where he washes up next. I'm just glad the vile fuckwit is out and he'll never be our problem ever again. He's the past, Fonseca appears to be the future An excellent post and sums up the situation perfectly. And I also applaud the use of galoot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) Let the sporting public tell themselves this hard done by fantasy, we as fans know the truth of the situation. We don't have to justify his sacking or the conduct of the fans to anyone. It will make any success we have all the sweeter. Edited October 21, 2021 by GeordieDazzler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyt Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 At first, for me anyway, it was not the character of the man. That came later. I knew how shit he´s record as manager was, and of course he had no business managing in the premier league anymore. I did not know beforehand was what a snidy, egoistic weasel he actually is. It was what he represented. Polar opposite of the appointment of Rafa. Rafa was loved here because he represented hope, ambition, professionalism and actual care for the club. For a moment you could almost think that we could go somewhere even under Mike Ashlely, if Rafa had he´s way. He had a clear plan how to play and had long-term plans how to take the club forward. It was great us-against-them mentality. I, for one, loved it when Neville was crying about the way Rafa beat Man City. This is how we play, this is our team, f*** off. Appointment of Bruce was the polar opposite. No clear plan how to play, just "ticking along" and making up the numbers. No identity, no professionalism, snidy remarks of fans and previous manager (i´ve never ever seen that happen anywhere). From day one he could never accept any responsibility or take any criticism. Complete embarrassment. He was the perfect image of the Ashley era. Slow death of a club. I don't care how lovely he might be to he´s family and friends, but as a football manager he comes across as unlikable you can. And what i have seen, the fans of he´s previous clubs have the same opinion. Then i have to read and listen from every media-outlet what a great manager and lovely fellow he is. Just one big lie after another. I´ve been more angry than i was under Pardew. I dislike him more than Pardew. I did not think it would ever be possible. He managed Villa and Birmingham, both Sheffield teams, mackems and Newcastle. Loss for words. But here we go. He is history. Lets forget him. Because now, we can have an actual manager. Sorry about my grammar etc. I know it has all been said 1000 times, but i just had to write this for my own - therapeutic - sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 One of the things that upset me the most about Pardew’s time here was how easy a ride the fans gave him for so long despite his ineptitude and shithousery. I’m happy that the fans seem to have figured Bruce out quickly and acted upon it. You need that sense of pride and standards to keep club progressing no matter who the owners are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) Could tell after 2 games when he played his preferred 5-3-2, got turned over by Norwich and then dropped it for Benitez’s 5-2-3 that he was going to be shite. Then of course having the audacity to say the players were too entrenched in Benitez’s style for him to change it ‘overnight’. I say after two games, you just had to look at his CV before he came here what to expect. Edited October 21, 2021 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 So many heartfelt tributes to the man yesterday. RIP Steve. He will be sorely missed (by the other 19 Premier League clubs). He’s in a better place now. A whole £8m richer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Gabby ‘The Professor’ Agbonlahor on Talkshite (I know, I know) this morning giving our fans pelters for calling Brucey names as if his own fans hadn’t invented said names and also given him abuse for being shite. All conveniently forgotten to suit the narrative. Honestly, most journalism in this country has become propaganda to suit a certain viewpoint. Facts are completely irrelevant now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Stop listening to the rage inducing nonsense from talk sport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, LV said: Gabby ‘The Professor’ Agbonlahor on Talkshite (I know, I know) this morning giving our fans pelters for calling Brucey names as if his own fans hadn’t invented said names and also given him abuse for being shite. All conveniently forgotten to suit the narrative. Honestly, most journalism in this country has become propaganda to suit a certain viewpoint. Facts are completely irrelevant now. So infuriating but fuck em, we are rich and they're pissed about it. We have a little bit of hope now we have twisted the ticks off the arse of the club and whatever comes next I'm buzzing. Newcastle fans being able to talk football again, not court cases and NET spends and wallpaper is honestly an amazing feeling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Woke up today and my relief that he's gone is suddenly turned to anger about what this man has put us through in the last two years, and mostly that after all of that he's playing victim, an absolute chancer who should've not been allowed anywhere near a premier league club, the media can write all they want about him being hard done by, but the fans of most clubs he managed know what he's actually all about, he deserves every bit of criticism he got and i have no sympathy whatsoever for him. I remember i was in Korea for his first game in charge against Arsenal and had to watch it at a stupid time, things were going well and the team was clearly still well drilled from the Rafa days, then he went and put on Jetro Williems instead of a midfielder and didn't tell Jetro that he actually wants him to go to left back, Jetro then came on and started playing in center midfield and as a result Arsenal used the gap in the left to score and win the game, then he blamed Jetro for it, it really was like something from Mike Bassett and it was a sign of things to come, it's never poor old Brucey's fault it's always the players, the fans, ex managers, the media, the owners not supporting him (even though Ashley gave him more money than any other manager) , but never the fact that he doesn't have the basic skills to make it as a premier league manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Looking back at reports from when he was sacked by the mackems and Villa they're almost word for word the same, blaming 'vile abuse' from the fans, painting himself as a victim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: Looking back at reports from when he was sacked by the mackems and Villa they're almost word for word the same, blaming 'vile abuse' from the fans, painting himself as a victim. Aye, all forgotten though, and it only us nasty Geordies and Craig Hope that have ever given him such dogs abuse. The whole cabbage thing... actually statrted by Villa, FFS!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Bruce would be ideal for Liverpool, given he’s a victim now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 23 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: Looking back at reports from when he was sacked by the mackems and Villa they're almost word for word the same, blaming 'vile abuse' from the fans, painting himself as a victim. And of course it's never to do with the one and only constant in all three instances... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hozzo Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 this thread should be locked. Don't even think about him anymore... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Just now, El Hozzo said: this thread should be locked. Don't even think about him anymore... No. We still have more than enough laughing at him to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Bruce's biggest achievement is that I now hate him more than Pardew, which was virtually inconceivable. Did he get abuse? Yes, probably but the blokes been in football for 40 years or more, you can't tell me that he's only just noticed that football fans can get a bit touchy. The man failed. He can't accept he failed because he's shit. He has to convince everyone there was some grand conspiracy and that he's the victim in the affair. Again we have fallen foul of a footballing dinosaur trying to cling onto the game they so dearly love. If he'd really wanted to stay in the game, he should have taken a couple of years out of the game about 10 years ago and went on some coaching courses. There is a reason people like Roy Hodgson manage to hang around in the game, it's because he is a student of the game. He went abroad, learned his craft and even learned a couple of languages and cultures in the process. Bruce wasn't willing to learn. I suspect somewhere around the time he captained Man Utd to a league title, he figured he knew everything there was to know about the game. Boy was he wrong. The fact he has clocked up 1000 games in England is more to do with there still being footballing dinosaurs in boardrooms. Some of them still haven't twigged that the game has changed, so they go through the cycle of hiring the faces they know and people that the like, rather than educating themselves. The best indicator of what other fans really think of Bruce is when you ask them if they would have him. They all say no, even Norwich have progressed past people like Bruce. Even the top end championship clubs have. It's over Steve and it has been for a long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 For the media having a go at us they should just watch Mike Bassett England manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) Reading some of the exposes about him in the Athletic and general press recently, it really does seem it was the real life version of football manager where you tick the boxes to let your assistant manager do all the 'boring stuff' like training, etc and you go on holiday in the game to skip through to the odd game and the transfer window as fast as possible. The very definition of cruise control. Mike Ashley ran it like he didn't care, as did Lee Charnely. So to make up for that chronic lack of effort from above, you need to make up for that through your own effort and energy and intelligence. But it seems he embraced that culture himself, so instead of Rafa's double training sessions methodical work ethic, he managed it in a hands off way. No wonder the ship was sinking, it was completely rudderless. This is another reason why you can't really believe the whole its my boyhood club nonsense as if it really was, you'd be there all the time, soaking it in and doing your best to improve the situation, even if you are limited. You might be outclassed skills wise but you should never be outworked. Even that gains respect. His size and approach to fitness probably didn't help his energy and ability to handle things. Maybe he lost his own morale etc because of his hands being tied etc but when that happens the real dignity is doing what Gullit or Keegan did, holding your hands up and admit I can't carry on as it would be doing an injustice to the club and the fans etc. That's why what the club needs is either someone young hungry and energetic like Keegan first time around, eager to invest their best years, or someone highly highly professional, experienced and demanding who because of their high standards and very processes ensure they create the right culture. Bruce was neither, and this role really exposed him. Someone like Roy Hogdson only retired in the summer but was in his mid 70s, by all accounts he would outwork and out think Bruce on all accounts, let alone when you think about the likes of SBR. Edited October 21, 2021 by kingxlnc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) This cunt still gone? Edited October 21, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: For the media having a go at us they should just watch Mike Bassett England manager. In the Athletic apparently an 'insider’ shared that was his nickname amongst some of the players says it all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, STM said: Bruce's biggest achievement is that I now hate him more than Pardew, which was virtually inconceivable. Did he get abuse? Yes, probably but the blokes been in football for 40 years or more, you can't tell me that he's only just noticed that football fans can get a bit touchy. The man failed. He can't accept he failed because he's shit. He has to convince everyone there was some grand conspiracy and that he's the victim in the affair. Again we have fallen foul of a footballing dinosaur trying to cling onto the game they so dearly love. If he'd really wanted to stay in the game, he should have taken a couple of years out of the game about 10 years ago and went on some coaching courses. There is a reason people like Roy Hodgson manage to hang around in the game, it's because he is a student of the game. He went abroad, learned his craft and even learned a couple of languages and cultures in the process. Bruce wasn't willing to learn. I suspect somewhere around the time he captained Man Utd to a league title, he figured he knew everything there was to know about the game. Boy was he wrong. The fact he has clocked up 1000 games in England is more to do with there still being footballing dinosaurs in boardrooms. Some of them still haven't twigged that the game has changed, so they go through the cycle of hiring the faces they know and people that the like, rather than educating themselves. The best indicator of what other fans really think of Bruce is when you ask them if they would have him. They all say no, even Norwich have progressed past people like Bruce. Even the top end championship clubs have. It's over Steve and it has been for a long time. Well said. Absolutely spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Part of his agreement to leave the club was to keep his car allowance until the end of the season apparently.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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