mrmojorisin75 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I think this weekend was the first time he made a massive mistake TBH, and it wasn't easy to choose what to do. In hindsight going with Aarons in that new formation wasn't great, but I'm not sure shifting Mbemba to fullback would've been much better. I wouldn't say McClaren always does the same thing. Does the same thing as he always reverts back to being cautious in his approach. aye, i'm sorry like but a side with shelvey, wijnaldum, sissoko, perez/aarons and mitrovic should at the very least be an effective attacking force like regardless of how many people are sure mitrovic will never score enough goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Swansea's win at Everton shows just how difficult it will be to escape the drop now. It looks as if the club have little intention(or idea)of obtaining a proven striker so its hard to see how they can finish above even clubs like Norwich and Swansea who are both showing the right spirit ; although Norwich lost on Saturday, they were 3-1 up at one point and have made a good signing in Naismith - I am willing to bet that we will lose heavily at Liverpool even though we might give a spirited performance because we cannot score the goals we should. If we don't sign a striker, I shall stay with 9.... We beat Liverpool at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 we're only 4 points adrift of swansea and bournemouth like but the time to act is now to get some fucker who can put the ball in the net and/or fire mcclaren and get someone decent in instead ( ) Swansea and Bournemouth are playing well. If we were four points ahead of them there would be more chance of them catching us than there is of us catching them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 For the masochists among you try this http://www.worldfootball.net/table_calculator/eng-premier-league/ I did it a few weeks back and tried to be objective on Swansea results and had us relegated on 34 points, maybe I was too pessimistic For Swansea our final 7 games could be a killer unless we gain enough points before hand. I'm wondering if 37 points will be enough this year. Great link. Doing that predictor shows that it's too close to call. I have the Mackems staying up on 31 pts, Us going down on 31 pts, Norwich 30 pts, Villa 18pts. That's with us beating Villa and the Mackems beating us 3-0. I think I had us beating Bournmouth too. Basically, the Derby is a relegation play off. Bottle it again, and we may well be going down. 14 West Bromwich Albion West Bromwich Albion 38 8 14 16 30:46 -16 38 15 Watford FC Watford FC 38 9 9 20 33:52 -19 36 16 AFC Bournemouth AFC Bournemouth 38 8 11 19 37:62 -25 35 17 Sunderland AFC Sunderland AFC 38 7 10 21 36:64 -28 31 18 Newcastle United Newcastle United 38 7 10 21 33:68 -35 31 19 Norwich City Norwich City 38 7 9 22 34:64 -30 30 20 Aston Villa Aston Villa 38 3 9 26 25:63 -38 18 Whichever of us or Sunderland survives this season will be there or thereabouts scrapping around the relegation zone next season imo. It's kinda pointless staying up just for that. Grim shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I'm a 4. We play 7 games against bottom third sides; 4 at home. 13 points from these games alone and we are perfroming like 'the average' premiership side against a bottom third side (1.79pts per game). I am not saying we are nailed-on to do this, just that we only need to do averagely well in our remaining games and we'll be fine. Unfortunately, that is every other bugger's 'averagely well', not ours! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I'm a 4. We play 7 games against bottom third sides; 4 at home. 13 points from these games alone and we are perfroming like 'the average' premiership side against a bottom third side (1.79pts per game). I am not saying we are nailed-on to do this, just that we only need to do averagely well in our remaining games and we'll be fine. Unfortunately, that is every other bugger's 'averagely well', not ours! We cant beat the teams in and around us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Yep, thus far done shit against bottom third 0.67 ppg. Even worse aginst middle third & relatively well against top third. I'm assuming, make that hoping, that the bottom third form will change with 4 home games, and three away. With such low numbers, one win makes a big difference (0.67 becomes 0.96ppg; two wins makes it a 1.19ppg average against bottom third). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I cant see anything changing for the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I'm a 4. We play 7 games against bottom third sides; 4 at home. 13 points from these games alone and we are perfroming like 'the average' premiership side against a bottom third side (1.79pts per game). I am not saying we are nailed-on to do this, just that we only need to do averagely well in our remaining games and we'll be fine. Unfortunately, that is every other bugger's 'averagely well', not ours! I can't understand anyone saying that they are as low as a 4 tbh. Not having a go, I just can't get my head around it. We've barely been out of the bottom 3-4 all season. We're bang out of form, we won't change our manager and they seem to be of the opinion that they can gamble their way of the mess by buying a few players. I've barely been below an 8 all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 we will at best limp over the line by the skin of our teeth, sell a promise to the fans and continue over. or limp and fall short ,drop, sell a promise to the fans and continue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 we will at best limp over the line by the skin of our teeth, sell a promise to the fans and continue over. or limp and fall short ,drop, sell a promise to the fans and continue. If we do survive. There will be no money spent in summer. It's being spent now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 The Debuchy January did we add anyone in the summer? Nope. That was followed with 18 months before we made another permanent signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelveys Hair Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 We're going to have to buck a seriously bad trend to stay up Last 15 games 2014/15 9 Points 2013/14 12 Points 2012/13 20 Points 2011/12 27 Points 2010/11 16 Points Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Pardew and Carver aren't involved so that's a good start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 we will at best limp over the line by the skin of our teeth, sell a promise to the fans and continue over. or limp and fall short ,drop, sell a promise to the fans and continue. If we do survive. There will be no money spent in summer. It's being spent now Yeah, this would be one of my biggest worries. You've got to get the transfers right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Swansea's win at Everton shows just how difficult it will be to escape the drop now. It looks as if the club have little intention(or idea)of obtaining a proven striker so its hard to see how they can finish above even clubs like Norwich and Swansea who are both showing the right spirit ; although Norwich lost on Saturday, they were 3-1 up at one point and have made a good signing in Naismith - I am willing to bet that we will lose heavily at Liverpool even though we might give a spirited performance because we cannot score the goals we should. If we don't sign a striker, I shall stay with 9.... We beat Liverpool at home. It was early in Klopp's management - do you think we would do it now..?? Or when we got to Anfield..?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Swansea's win at Everton shows just how difficult it will be to escape the drop now. It looks as if the club have little intention(or idea)of obtaining a proven striker so its hard to see how they can finish above even clubs like Norwich and Swansea who are both showing the right spirit ; although Norwich lost on Saturday, they were 3-1 up at one point and have made a good signing in Naismith - I am willing to bet that we will lose heavily at Liverpool even though we might give a spirited performance because we cannot score the goals we should. If we don't sign a striker, I shall stay with 9.... We beat Liverpool at home. It was early in Klopp's management - do you think we would do it now..?? Or when we got to Anfield..?? No, we'll probably lose at Anfield. But Norwich just played them at home. That was my point. You made it sound like their valiant loss to them was better than we could do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 we will at best limp over the line by the skin of our teeth, sell a promise to the fans and continue over. or limp and fall short ,drop, sell a promise to the fans and continue. If we do survive. There will be no money spent in summer. It's being spent now Not really bothered about that at all, I would far rather have the players in now to try and rescue this season. Plus it will give the squad more time to gel for next season which hopefully won't be a train wreck like this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 If we do go down, I don't think there'll be a fire sale. Think Sissoko and Janmaat would leave for sure but could see us keeping the rest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 If we do go down, I don't think there'll be a fire sale. Think Sissoko and Janmaat would leave for sure but could see us keeping the rest Those two, Ayoze, Wijnaldum and Krul for sure. There'll be some like Anita and Haidara who may not have other clubs interested. Possibly even Mitrovic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 If we do go down, I don't think there'll be a fire sale. Think Sissoko and Janmaat would leave for sure but could see us keeping the rest Wijnaldum playing in the championship Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 We wouldn't take cut price deals. It's the whole reason there tied down to 6 year deals when they sign. We're in the black year on year. No one would pay what we want as they'd think we're being unreasonable while we wouldn't see a need to sell (ashley demonstrated last time he'll keep the wage bill miles above the rest of the league in order to go back up) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Hard luck, lads, at least you're in the champions league *wildly celebrates winning the league* again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsted Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Fuck you, Brummie, fuck you. None of us here has a grandfather that ever saw that happen for us. To think I used to like you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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