christ Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 It’s a 10. We’re going down. Just try and enjoy the rest of this season and hope it point’s to something better in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Just now, GWN said: If we don’t sort out fullbacks we are gonna drop Still 9 Totally agree with this. Fullback situation has been awful for ages,the last pair that complimented each other really well was Jonas and José Enrique. Ritchie and ASM confuse each other. We dont have any good fullbacks at the club that could do a job going forward and getting back. Heard shouts about Trippier, he'd be a massive improvement on what we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Aye, similar to where I'm at. We're moving in the right direction, but the defence is still a massive concern. I have no idea how Darlow kept his place today. you knew during his presser he was playing , said Dubs was not 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1892er Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 It's that horrendous run of fixtures in December that's gonna cut us adrift. I'm at a 9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Not sure we escape this. Saw plenty of positives today, but the biggest disappointment was that we still looked disorganised defensively, and that was something I'd hoped would be addressed straight away or would at least see some semblence of change. Convincing targets to join us in January is going to be a tough ask coming out that December fixture list. Things need to improve dramatically and quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, GWN said: you knew during his presser he was playing , said Dubs was not 100% Fair, didn't catch that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagCA Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Game we had to win. Going to take a miracle to keep us up, there isn’t three worse teams than us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Just now, MagCA said: Game we had to win. Going to take a miracle to keep us up, there isn’t three worse teams than us. We have players up front who are better than most of the teams in the bottom half, unfortunately our defence is worse than most of the teams in the top half of the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Dubs plays from now on, Lewis and Manquilllo as wing backs instead of Ritchie and Murphy to support the shaky defence, reinforcements in Jan( right at the beginning of the window no fucking about) and we’ll be ok by the skin of our teeth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 100% down. Wonder how they plan for Jan window. I'd go young and up and coming. Few games in the PL before a good bonding season in the championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 2 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: 10 No one he ever stayed up from this position. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000–01_Derby_County_F.C._season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, Dokko said: 100% down. Wonder how they plan for Jan window. I'd go young and up and coming. Few games in the PL before a good bonding season in the championship. That's that then. No point in watching the rest of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 5 or 6. We're well and truly in the shit and need to start winning games. People said they'd take 7 points from these home games. There's 1, need the 6. Plenty of cause for optimism in regards to how we played today though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 We’re down. It’ll take something amazing to stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 The old adage that a point per game keeps you up is borne out by the current table with Leeds. If we lose against Arsenal but win following 2 home games, we will be only 3 points off a point per game. Early days anyone accepting relegation now are massively off the mark. We’ll stay up with a bit to spare no problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Whitley mag said: The old adage that a point per game keeps you up is borne out by the current table with Leeds. If we lose against Arsenal but win following 2 home games, we will be only 3 points off a point per game. Early days anyone accepting relegation now are massively off the mark. We’ll stay up with a bit to spare no problem. Can’t say anyone accepting relegation is massively of the mark but then say we will stay up with a bit to spare no problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, The Prophet said: That's that then. No point in watching the rest of the season. Absolutely not bothered either way. We go down I've more chance of getting a season ticket so happy either way. Today I rekindled a little bit of my love for the club. Didn't know my blackened heart cared anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Can’t say anyone accepting relegation is massively of the mark but then say we will stay up with a bit to spare no problem. I’m very confident I’ll not be off the mark. We’re in a unique position for a club in our position, get to Jan in touch and we’ll breeze to safety when the cheque book gets opened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dokko said: Absolutely not bothered either way. We go down I've more chance of getting a season ticket so happy either way. Today I rekindled a little bit of my love for the club. Didn't know my blackened heart cared anymore. Exactly, convinced it’ll not come to that but the club feels alive again. Cynics might sneer when we say we’ve got our club back, but we all care again and that’s all everyone wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 58 minutes ago, Tsunami said: We’re down. It’ll take something amazing to stay up. It'll take 30 or so points. There's 78 to play for so we can manage that if we keep up this level of intensity and address some of the defensive issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1/3rd of the season gone, zero wins, worst defensive record in the league, just shipped 3 at home to the mighty Brentford in another must win match, 5pts off safety with a worse goal difference. Hard to see us stopping up, even the teams supposedly worse than us according to many, are picking up points. Take a miracle now. I really don't understand all the optimism after a 3-3 home draw with a newly promoted team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Karjala said: 1/3rd of the season gone, zero wins, worst defensive record in the league, just shipped 3 at home to the mighty Brentford in another must win match, 5pts off safety with a worse goal difference. Hard to see us stopping up, even the teams supposedly worse than us according to many, are picking up points. Take a miracle now. I really don't understand all the optimism after a 3-3 home draw with a newly promoted team. did you go today (genuine question, not having a go)? i think most who did have a feeling of optimism because there were lots of positives to take both on the pitch and off it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Dokko said: Absolutely not bothered either way. We go down I've more chance of getting a season ticket so happy either way. Today I rekindled a little bit of my love for the club. Didn't know my blackened heart cared anymore. Exactly how I feel! I've made peace with relegation now but I'm back in love with my club. Can't see a way out of it for us. This group isn't good enough, especially defensively and come January we'll be we'll adrfit making bringing in the quality replacements we'd require even more difficult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, lovejoy said: did you go today (genuine question, not having a go)? i think most who did have a feeling of optimism because there were lots of positives to take both on the pitch and off it. Unfortunately that defence negates the optimism - on the pitch anyway. Even before Howe came, the forward line was performing to mid table standard in terms of goals scored. However, that defence obliterates any optimism on the field, for again at the 8th time of asking in 12 games, the team has been required score 2 or more goals to even be within a chance of getting a result. Nothing can be done until January and there is 7 games to play. That defence currently is lower championship standard at best. Don't you think we all want to be ultra positive (long term I certainly am), but the warning signs have been flashing red all season and I can't see that changing until January. Unfortunately it maybe too late by then. Never mind the Premier League, Ashley has totaly fucked us this year by not signing even one or two half decent defenders. Not having a go at you either, just the way I see things currently. Edited November 20, 2021 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Kaizero said: According to fivethirtyeight we're 63% likely to get relegated after today, so 6.3. Thought people knew better than to believe Nat Silver. Can't believe their algorithm takes Howe and a Jan transfer window into account. A Howe draw and a Bruce draw are two different animals. Edited November 20, 2021 by gazza ladra Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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