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Takeover Thread - July 1st statement, Staveley letter to Tracey Crouch (and response) in OP


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21 minutes ago, mrmojorisin75 said:

What's the actual aim here, feel like I'm missing something?

 

This Crouch woman isn't going to force the PL to anything or even try to.

The PL aren't going to buckle at this stage because of some tweets and letters.

 

Yes it's making things public which is good but the PL are their own governance right?  It's not like there's someone else who can tell them to have the arbitration in public cause it looks bad.

 

She's the Chair of the review panel currently looking into English football governance, she could potentially make recommendations that could result in the PL losing its powers to self regulate. If the PL insist on this being held privately when everyone else wants it to be public it's a very bad look for them when the panel decide whether there needs to be independent regulation of the PL.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

She's the Chair of the review panel currently looking into English football governance, she could potentially make recommendations that could result in the PL losing its powers to self regulate. If the PL insist on this being held privately when everyone else wants it to be public it's a very bad look for them when they are decided whether there needs to be independent regulation of the PL.

 

Perhaps yeah.  Suppose there must be backchannels between the PL & Gov and we know Boz wants that sweet Saudi lucre in the country so assuming there's any joined up thinking in the Tory party that might be the play.

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

She's the Chair of the review panel currently looking into English football governance, she could potentially make recommendations that could result in the PL losing its powers to self regulate. If the PL insist on this being held privately when everyone else wants it to be public it's a very bad look for them when the panel decide whether there needs to be independent regulation of the PL.

 

 

 

 

This is a great point.  

 

 

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This is positive news in my opinion as it seems to suggests she still has the backing to buy the club. But I don’t get how this will change anything for us regarding a sale. The Premier League will just say they followed their own rules that NUFC signed up to as a member club. If we are aiming to prove that the rules are rigged and not fit for purpose then that’s all well and good, but PL will just deny everything even if it is in public 

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2 minutes ago, andyc35i said:

This is positive news in my opinion as it seems to suggests she still has the backing to buy the club. But I don’t get how this will change anything for us regarding a sale. The Premier League will just say they followed their own rules that NUFC signed up to as a member club. If we are aiming to prove that the rules are rigged and not fit for purpose then that’s all well and good, but PL will just deny everything even if it is in public 

I suppose it depends on what evidence the club has to show they haven’t followed their own rules and there was outside influences at play.

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Just now, ToonArmy1892 said:

Eh, that is quite positive from him isn't it?

Not if you read the full thread he says it's a desperate move by them and something they shouldn't do because even if the takeover goes through they need to deal with the EPL.

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9 minutes ago, Ben said:

 

Consider our bonfire pissed on 

 

 

He clearly doesn't know what the fuck is happening. I'm always suprised how much credit is given to a person who is banned by the BBC, has strong BEIN connections and has been shown (during the previous takeover bid) by the Chronicle of telling lies during a podcast, which then had to be pulled within 24 hours as a direct result. 

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11 minutes ago, Ben said:

Not if you read the full thread he says it's a desperate move by them and something they shouldn't do because even if the takeover goes through they need to deal with the EPL.

He doesn't say that. He says it could either be seen as confident, confrontational or a little desperate. 

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I need someone to explain to me how having arbitration played out in the public eye improves our chances of winning. Are Staveley and co implying that the three people doing the arbitrating are capable of being influenced by public opinion?

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19 minutes ago, Ben said:

Not if you read the full thread he says it's a desperate move by them and something they shouldn't do because even if the takeover goes through they need to deal with the EPL.

Id imagine if the takeover does go through and the PL are shown to have not acted correctly, heads may roll and the consortium would be working with completely different people to the twats who've been in charge the last 18 months 

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3 minutes ago, Scoot said:

Id imagine if the takeover does go through and the PL are shown to have not acted correctly, heads may roll and the consortium would be working with completely different people to the twats who've been in charge the last 18 months 

Different persons, as well as more open, honest, transparent and fair working practices. No more secret meetings with the ‘Big 6’ to discuss matters before the other clubs.

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16 minutes ago, Wandy said:

I need someone to explain to me how having arbitration played out in the public eye improves our chances of winning. Are Staveley and co implying that the three people doing the arbitrating are capable of being influenced by public opinion?

 

The logic is that the PL has some skeletons in the closet with regards to how they've handled this, outside influence etc. If it is forced to be in public then the PL are more likely to settle before it gets to that point. Or at the very least they get shown up to be a bunch of mugs. 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Wandy said:

I need someone to explain to me how having arbitration played out in the public eye improves our chances of winning. Are Staveley and co implying that the three people doing the arbitrating are capable of being influenced by public opinion?

 

Well the theory is that having hearings in public increases transparency and accountability, that's why the human rights act protects the right to public criminal trials.

 

Also, they may have stuff from the disclosure that would be embarrassing for the PL and, if so, it puts extra pressure for the PL to settle before it goes ahead.

 

The only private information should be commercially sensitive information for the club and PIF, there shouldn't really be anything that the PL should be worried about being made public; unless they have done something wrong.

 

 

 

 

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