SUPERTOON Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, et tu brute said: Yeah I honestly do think he is Maybe, but I doubt it’s a direct line so to speak… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, cookidge said: You make a good point, and I tend to agree. I believe in the last week they've realised this, but who they want isn't available, and our position isn't helping. It will only get better I imagine. A lot of learning for them and it's chicken and egg situation with manager, Dof and SD hiring, but right now we need a manager, then rest can come later. A decent Dof could work with a manager not quite synced for a couple of seasons and then look for someone more suitable if they can't sync up in that time. Time is the one thing they cannot buy and why for me it's the most important aspect right now even above quality (as long as it's not too poor of course) They'll get better I'm sure of it. Don't think Charnley being involved helps whatsoever. Maybe they make him rake the fall today and see him sacked. That would be worth all this drama. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Amidst all these twists and turns, its Unai's 50th Birthday today. Hope Charnley remembers to send some flowers and a cake as part of the charm offensive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, New Beginnings said: Telling that Ornstein broke it instead of Caulkin at the Athletic. He is the one that jumped the gun, as he hadn't had the official briefing to sit on it a little longer The NE press pack had to go with it after that as the cat was out of the bag! this is why it is obvious to me that it was the PL who leaked this after they received the work permit paperwork which would have stated Howe as the British alternative Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookidge Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, Dokko said: A lot of learning for them and it's chicken and egg situation with manager, Dof and SD hiring, but right now we need a manager, then rest can come later. A decent Dof could work with a manager not quite synced for a couple of seasons and then look for someone more suitable if they can't sync up in that time. Time is the one thing they cannot buy and why for me it's the most important aspect right now even above quality (as long as it's not too poor of course) They'll get better I'm sure of it. Don't think Charnley being involved helps whatsoever. Maybe they make him rake the fall today and see him sacked. That would be worth all this drama. Yeah the DoF and manager situation is a tough one, as we need to be sure they can and want to work together. We're in a precarious position so I'm torn between wanting a quick fix to get us safe this season versus building for the long term now by getting everyone in. I am moving closer to "just get something done", and will probably be more concerned if nothing moves fast during the early part of the international break. Charnley still knocking about - I can't help but chuckle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, James said: this is why it is obvious to me that it was the PL who leaked this after they received the work permit paperwork which would have stated Howe as the British alternative Wat? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, Dokko said: You can only use the shock factor for so long. So many walks of life shit gets dumped on you and you have to run with it. They are experienced business men and women with near enough unlimited funds to make things happen and have been wanting this for years. They believed it would happen so it's not a complete shock it has. So for me This isn't an excuse anymore, it only has a limited shelf life and for me thathas expired. They now need to be more agile in thinking and process and realise 24 hours is a long time in football and we have little time to waste. It's the old QCT. Cost isn't an issue, quality and time is. Which is more important to all this? Quality long term yes, but time is equally as important as if you wait and get a quality manager but run out of time.to make the changes then next season he leaves and it's all been for nothing. Your 2nd paragraph is spot on though, I'm not arguing for pulling that one up. You’re right in many ways, but I think they are being cautious which can be a good thing or a bad thing because there is so much to get right first due to the absolute shambles Ashley left them with. I’d question more their (footballing) advisors right now, obviously a lot of people will be jostling for some coin out of them or even a future role and job. They may be business people, but they are not football people. Ashley is a precursor to how fateful that can be… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Imagine Newcastle fans expecting things to go to plan. Never going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 No idea how reliable he is but talks still taking place apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, Dokko said: Wat? He's posted that twice now. No one bit the first time so he tried again and you failed the test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 So has anything been officially released or is this still just everybody reporting balague? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, Mr Raspberry Jam said: He has a point about them being so different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 This fucking club man. What a shit show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Fair questions, lets hope he can get answers (or more money) he wants Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Miggys First Goal said: He has a point about them being so different. It also makes no sense to be even bothered by such a question. he sounds insecure. My point is regarding Howe. Edited November 3, 2021 by r0cafella Clarity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 We’re all ignoring the author of that tweet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, r0cafella said: It also makes no sense to be even bothered by such a question. he sounds insecure. Ryder knows fuck all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 In the grand scheme of things - weve got decades of Saudi ownership to look forward too. Waiting a couple of months for key positions to be filled isnt going to be that difficult. Though obviously the sooner a new manager can get to work with the players the better. Even if we have Jones on board til January, so what? We could very easily buy our way out of trouble. Even if we somehow get relegated this season, so what? Weve got decades of Saudi ownership to look forward too... Im trying to look on the bright side here. But maybe the first appointment should have been a DOF - someone with the knowledge, the contacts, the reputation, someone who can sell the club to new players and the potential new manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Why would/should he care who we would go for if he turns us down ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) I have to say I don't think it's all that important that the styles of Emery and Howe are totally different. The philosophy at the moment is clearly 'stay in the PL' and the style of play is probably, or at least should be, secondary to things like win %, success in the PL, getting the best out of poor players, etc etc. If we were a comfortably mid-table team it would be more important and I'd expect someone like Fonseca to have been more in the running. Edited November 3, 2021 by kisearch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, neesy111 said: The consortium's leaking of stuff is bit shambolic tbh. Whoever is doing it to the press needs to stop it. Has this been confirmed it IS the consortium?!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: He has a point about them being so different. The project is all about staying in the Premier League first and foremost. What's so different about that? Building for next phase is secondary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Lazarus said: In the grand scheme of things - weve got decades of Saudi ownership to look forward too. Waiting a couple of months for key positions to be filled isnt going to be that difficult. Though obviously the sooner a new manager can get to work with the players the better. Even if we have Jones on board til January, so what? We could very easily buy our way out of trouble. Even if we somehow get relegated this season, so what? Weve got decades of Saudi ownership to look forward too... Im trying to look on the bright side here. But maybe the first appointment should have been a DOF - someone with the knowledge, the contacts, the reputation, someone who can sell the club to new players and the potential new manager. The damage Ashley has done, it’s going to be a long healing process on all fronts and fans need to be a tad patient while that’s underway. I know we’ve been patient for over 14 years, but like you say, they will eventually get things right and success will come our way, and we must also accept they will get things wrong too. I’m relaxed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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