Slim Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Remember when we should have beat Chealski and everyone and there was no issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 The way some of our supporters have turned on Howe and ASM is disgusting, you'd think we'd just hot hammered at home to Norwich, Burnley and Watford with our best team out. Some people need to touch grass and get a bit of perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Can all the people with a bee in their bonnet about Howe getting "outclassed" or "outmanoeuvred" on Sunday please remember that it's only a couple of weeks ago that he would have beaten the European Champion (with half our team missing) if the VAR ref hadn't fallen asleep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mattoon said: The way some of our supporters have turned on Howe and ASM is disgusting, you'd think we'd just hot hammered at home to Norwich, Burnley and Watford with our best team out. Some people need to touch grass and get a bit of perspective. To be fair, it’s a very very tiny minority and seems to be one or two on here and social media, let’s not go OTT on this in the way they go OTT on Howe/ASM… Oh and if Conte was our manager with this team and Howe was their manager, the scoreline would have been similar. We’ve rode our luck a lot under Howe and sheer improvements in fitness, team spirit, hard work and individualism has seen us go on that 9 game unbeaten run. This 5-1 loss is the true reality of where we are as a club and team and squad right now. Yeah we could have drawn against Chelsea who are better than Spurs, but that’s us on top of our game and them not, Spurs were on top of their game and we weren’t. Again, Howe managing that team would destroy our team, even under Conte. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Just now, HTT II said: To be fair, it’s a very very tiny minority and seems to be one or two on here and social media, let’s not go OTT on this in the way they go OTT on Howe/ASM… Oh and if Conte was our manager with this team and Howe was their manager, the scoreline would have been similar. We’ve rode our luck a lot under Howe and sheer improvements in fitness, team spirit, hard work and individualism has seen us go on that 9 game unbeaten run. This 5-1 loss is the true reality of where we are as a club and team and squad right now. Yeah we could have drawn against Chelsea who are better than Spurs, but that’s us on top of our game and them not, Spurs were on top of their game and we weren’t. Again, Howe managing that team would destroy our team, even under Conte. I've not gone OTT, I'm not suggesting half our fan base has gone off the rails but there is a very vocal minority voicing ridiculous opinions and I'm sure people in the club are seeing them, I just hope they realise its not the consensus and just outliers. If ever there was a time we needed to be united, it is this run in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Mattoon said: I've not gone OTT, I'm not suggesting half our fan base has gone off the rails but there is a very vocal minority voicing ridiculous opinions and I'm sure people in the club are seeing them, I just hope they realise its not the consensus and just outliers. If ever there was a time we needed to be united, it is this run in. I’m not saying you’re going OTT, just that we shouldn’t read too much into the very minor minority who are over the 5-1 defeat and ASM in particular, everyone I know think Howe is the second coming of KK and ASM is world-class, now that’s OTT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 29 minutes ago, ilikenewcastle said: Can all the people with a bee in their bonnet about Howe getting "outclassed" or "outmanoeuvred" on Sunday please remember that it's only a couple of weeks ago that he would have beaten the European Champion (with half our team missing) if the VAR ref hadn't fallen asleep. He did it on purpose in my opinion, that decison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 The little'n backs him..that's all that matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Eggie Howe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, Wilson said: The little'n backs him..that's all that matters. Class! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 The red is his mouth by the way...'because he's always shouting' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 He's a cracking manager. Is the player in the penalty box Shellvey? Looks just like him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Thats brilliant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 41 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said: He's a cracking manager. Is the player in the penalty box Shellvey? Looks just like him. I'm going to take credit for that one as she'd had enough by that point....'put an 8 on his back and say it's Shelvey' Whilst Calum Wilson's there looking uncannily like Peter Griffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Love that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Love hearing him talk. Hopefully we can bounce back tomorrow night with 3 points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Conducts himself with class, speaks well and our team finally has a distinct identity. So far I’ve been quite impressed with him; whether or not he’s the guy to push us into the higher echelons is up for debate but he’s moving us in the right direction (recent results notwithstanding). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 He's got to try new things I suppose and tactics that work in training against some of our weaker players may see us being exposed in actual games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Just now, McCormick said: Conducts himself with class, speaks well and our team finally has a distinct identity. So far I’ve been quite impressed with him; whether or not he’s the guy to push us into the higher echelons is up for debate but he’s moving us in the right direction (recent results notwithstanding). For me though this is why I'm excited for next season assuming we stay up. CBA to find my post but I said a few weeks ago that this is cause to be looking forward to the summer and next season; no disrespect meant to Bournemouth or Burnley but we're the biggest club he's managed so far in his career and he's never had this kind of money to work with before. Sunday aside, he's done quite well tactically against the bigger sides and we've not reaped as much rewards from those games as we should've done which suggests to me he's up to it for the bigger games against the better teams and managers; when he we have better players on the park we'll be a proper test for any side. It's a great challenge for him as a manager and it'll be a great ride for us as fans. It's all about the recruitment and getting 2-3 transformational signings that move us up a level each season. With Bellamy and Robert, SBR moved us from being a side who finished 11th two seasons running to being a top 4 side. The signings of Allison and Van Dijk changed Liverpool from being a side battling it out for the top 4 to being neck and neck with Man City. Team building and those 1 or 2 signings each year will determine how we move forward as I have no qualms about Howe tactically (Sunday aside obviously but given the job he's done so far he's well within his rights to get it wrong every now and then). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Tbh I was more pissed off with the second half against Everton than the Spurs game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 21 hours ago, HaydnNUFC said: For me though this is why I'm excited for next season assuming we stay up. CBA to find my post but I said a few weeks ago that this is cause to be looking forward to the summer and next season; no disrespect meant to Bournemouth or Burnley but we're the biggest club he's managed so far in his career and he's never had this kind of money to work with before. Sunday aside, he's done quite well tactically against the bigger sides and we've not reaped as much rewards from those games as we should've done which suggests to me he's up to it for the bigger games against the better teams and managers; when he we have better players on the park we'll be a proper test for any side. It's a great challenge for him as a manager and it'll be a great ride for us as fans. It's all about the recruitment and getting 2-3 transformational signings that move us up a level each season. With Bellamy and Robert, SBR moved us from being a side who finished 11th two seasons running to being a top 4 side. The signings of Allison and Van Dijk changed Liverpool from being a side battling it out for the top 4 to being neck and neck with Man City. Team building and those 1 or 2 signings each year will determine how we move forward as I have no qualms about Howe tactically (Sunday aside obviously but given the job he's done so far he's well within his rights to get it wrong every now and then). I honestly don’t think the gap from where we are now is huge to say where Spurs are, a few key signings can bridge that gap as it did for us under Sir Bobby with Bellamy and Robert. Admittedly we had a great spine to the team then and we lack that currently, but big progress can still be made with some key players signed. A proper defensive midfielder, an attacking wide right winger and a top-class centre-forward alone would transform this team overnight. Howe has already transformed the fitness, the spirit, the leadership within the squad and made us very hard to beat, last weekend aside. I’m highly optimistic of our future under Howe and can’t wait for next season, even if we go down, he’s the man to lead us into this new era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Big test for him tonight. Needs to get everything right. Not arsed about the result as much as his performance. If he starts a shit team, gets his tactics wrong or fucks up his subs then pressure is on him for the next few games. If he gets it right and we are unlucky, robbed or wolves are just better on the night then we can take something away and build on it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dokko said: Big test for him tonight. Needs to get everything right. Not arsed about the result as much as his performance. If he starts a shit team, gets his tactics wrong or fucks up his subs then pressure is on him for the next few games. If he gets it right and we are unlucky, robbed or wolves are just better on the night then we can take something away and build on it again. I'd always like to see Howe get it right, but if we're piling on the pressure after 135 minutes of football, it says more about us as a fanbase, than him as a manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I'd always like to see Howe get it right, but if we're piling on the pressure after 135 minutes of football, it says more about us as a fanbase, than him as a manager. These are the games where you can make fair judgement on him as a match day manager. Not just inheriting a losing team. Not games where we are totally outclassed in quality and games where there isn't imminent doom of relegation. The pressure will build as we grow. He needs to handle it. This was always my concern with him. Luckily he gets it wrong it won't be the end of the world, but that pressure builds again and again as all the hard work is undone. Lets see how he reacts. Whatever happens, even a total collapse and survival on the last day of the season, I'd still want him here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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