joeyt Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 3 hours ago, David Edgar said: The actual Aston Villa manager has left (Neil Critchley) to join Blackpool. The new manager must not be as good. Gerrard is just a face. Eh, he's just brought Critchley in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 minute ago, joeyt said: Eh, he's just brought Critchley in He did a good job with Blackpool and seems highly rated, strange move to go from a manager to number 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Oh right. So whoever the one is who left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 37 minutes ago, David Edgar said: Oh right. So whoever the one is who left. Michael Beale, who was with him at Rangers and left to join QPR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 hours ago, STM said: The most damning thing I can say about Gerrard, is that I think Lampard is a better manager. At least Lampard had the balls to swallow his pride and play more conservative at Everton. At least Lampard has had a galvanising effect on their club. Gerrard has been given the keys to the bank and still can't get a tune out of them. I knew something was wrong when I saw that stupid narrow formation he employs. Didn't he leave Buendia on the bench yesterday? Get a bid in Eddie. Actually agree with this 100%. Everton play with a lot more energy and are more interesting going forward. Lampard for the most part just seems to be naive defensively, which can be ironed out. Gerrard's Villa just don't quite seem to be clicking, despite a really decent squad at his disposal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 They're both regen PFMs and both absolute fucking bellends I'm convinced one of them will be managing England next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 3 hours ago, KaKa said: No chance whatsoever. With the backing from the owners and the fans Rafa would have shone too. However, Eddie is a better fit IMO, because he's less rigid tactically, is a bit more relatable with the players, his style of football is also more attack minded, which inspires the crowd more. He’d have done a decent job I’m sure but not sure why we wouldn’t be worse off. Howe’s record is quite brilliant really. Rafa did great for us, but hardly showed he was world class then and his record since has shown he’s on the decline. Sure the defence would be solid, but not sure he’d transform the other players as effectively and make Joelinton a top class midfielder. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’d been argumentative and fallen out with players like ASM too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Don't see the need to go into hypotheticals about how Rafa would have done had we appointed him over Howe. He did a great job whilst we had him. He stuck with us in the Championship, and had he not done then promotion was by no means a certainty. Turned us into a solid mid table prem team that was starting to show glimpses of being a top half team if we didn't have Ashley. Had the takeover happened at about that time I'm pretty sure he'd have took us places. And had we still been in the championship the takeover may never have happened. This time around we have Howe and he's had an exceptional start - long may it continue. If it does both can go down in our history books as managing greats for our club. Rafa is already there - Howe to be determined but the signs are good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 (edited) Quote Quote 6 hours ago, AVFCforever1991 said: looks like Eddie Howe is a better manager and someone we should have went for Stevie needs to buck his ideas up, because he hasnt got a clue I personally thought Howe was a poor appointment from Newcastle at the time given what had happened at Bournemouth and he'd been out of work for a year, how wrong was I. Didn't start so well there given they didn't win a game for months, but he's been a fantastic appointment and is getting far more out of their squad than Gerrard is out of ours. I still actually think we're better on paper than Newcastle, given they have Targett at LB and Dan Burn at CB. It's actually a disgrace how much more Howe is getting from his squad of players than the fraud Gerrard. https://www.villatalk.com/topic/22443-steven-gerrard/page/661/#comment-3860211 Big difference is Eddie is a coach, he's constantly improving the players we have and they all fit within the game plan he creates. Hilarious how poorly people rate Targett and Burn mind, they're both outstanding defenders who will only get better under Eddie and his staff. Edited August 7, 2022 by Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Yeah, Dan Burn is massively underrated. Especially overseas. A few of my Egyptian mates who support Man United and Everton respectively, were laughing at me when I seemed excited that we were buying him in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 53 minutes ago, McCormick said: Yeah, Dan Burn is massively underrated. Especially overseas. A few of my Egyptian mates who support Man United and Everton respectively, were laughing at me when I seemed excited that we were buying him in January. It's ok, they've got Maguire and Keane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 This time last year we’d just been overrun by West Ham after taking an early lead. Steve Bruce was being Steve Bruce and we were clinging onto the hope of a takeover by a thread. The fitness in the squad was like amateur level. It was as grim as you could imagine. Then this man came in and has sorted the whole mess out and is quickly turning us into a competitive side once again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, McCormick said: It’s his amazing work ethic that’s so endearing as well. Wants his team to work non-stop on the field and he leads by example through doing just that off it. I love the guy. Frightens me at times. How consuming it must have been to turn individuals form completely around, to get the team playing really good football, to forge a team spirt, to improve results beyond recognition and to get the players this fit from the dreck that was inherited. I wouln't have it in me to carry myself well after that but he even does that too. Edited August 7, 2022 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Dr Jinx said: The fitness in the squad was like amateur level. Aye the difference yesterday was otherworldly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Happinesstan said: Aye the difference yesterday was otherworldly. How’s the bacon did you say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Nucasol said: How’s the bacon did you say? 'I can tels ye, tha preparayshun woz excepshunal' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Adam said: https://www.villatalk.com/topic/22443-steven-gerrard/page/661/#comment-3860211 Big difference is Eddie is a coach, he's constantly improving the players we have and they all fit within the game plan he creates. Hilarious how poorly people rate Targett and Burn mind, they're both outstanding defenders who will only get better under Eddie and his staff. I don't think many people underrate them tbh, if anything most were questioning why we needed to target defnders or goal keepers as summer signings. Do we regret signing Botman though? Nah, he's class, like Bruno he'll prove it over the season. So will Pope I'm sure, even though I think Dubravka is one of the best keepers in the Premier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Reminds me of a young Kevin Keegan… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, 54 said: As always, that's just the perfect answer really. First and foremost, he seems to be just a top class bloke, one I'd love to sit down and have a chat about football with. Put his hard work and commitment along with his style of play on top of that and he's one of the most likeable people in football IMO. So, so happy he's our manager, just imagine if we actually become as class we were yesterday on a weekly basis man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 30 minutes ago, HTT II said: Reminds me of a young Kevin Keegan… He does! No player will ever want to leave under this manager, that testament to his character. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 hours ago, HTT II said: Reminds me of a young Kevin Keegan… “I want people to dream about their football club. They should, we should all be dreamers at heart. Some people are the opposite and say ‘we can’t do that’, but when you ask them why, they can’t give a reason. Well, I say, ‘Why not?’” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey47 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Quote What I will also say is after hearing his comments regarding Ming's yesterday, I think he's bang out of order. He took the captaincy off him. Demoted him and has called him out within the space of a week. I'm not Ming's biggest fan but even I feel Gerrard has taken the piss with that. Comment from the Villa forum about Gerrard. Compare this to how Eddie has handled the Lascelles situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 So happy to have him as our manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 He's far more measured than Keegan though. Which is what I like about him. He shows fire, passion, and human side but he'll bottle it back up and show a calming sense of patience, measured comments. You almost get the best of Sir Bobby and Keegan in terms of personality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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