Armchair Pundit Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: There's a convenience to this for all parties concerned, Everyone can save face with it being an unpopular appointment, Rafa can say the club made it clear the option was on the table and would be happy for him to go and we get our man Was thinking that myself, I still don't think there's anything he can do at Everton that would ever endear him to their fans and now that he's had an iffy result it'll be even harder. Everton just need to be sure they can line someone up at short notice that will be good enough for their aspirations, then they could release Rafa to being bought in by us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Armchair Pundit said: Was thinking that myself, I still don't think there's anything he can do at Everton that would ever endear him to their fans and now that he's had an iffy result it'll be even harder. Everton just need to be sure they can line someone up at short notice that will be good enough for their aspirations, then they could release Rafa to being bought in by us. If such a scenario was likely, Unsworth is out of a job… I’d imagine in all seriousness, Big Dunc might get his chance more permanently or they’d try and go after Moyes again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Beginnings Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Sick of 'trusting the process' now tbh! The group have had ages to target who they want for both positions! I fully expected to know by bow and the new manager with the new manager in the stands to watch the game on Saturday! Fat chance of that happening now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Do you want Llambeezy back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 If (and it's a massive "if") we're in for Benitez, Everton will demand full whack for his contract. And rightly so. There's no reason for them to help us out when they know we're keen, they know he won't walk away, and we have (in their opinion) unlimited money and aspirations to replace them in the top half of the table sooner rather than later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, New Beginnings said: Sick of 'trusting the process' now tbh! The group have had ages to target who they want for both positions! I fully expected to know by bow and the new manager with the new manager in the stands to watch the game on Saturday! Fat chance of that happening now! If we are in for a manager currently employed then it’s quite understandable it’s taken a bit longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 I think it's still Jones in charge for Brighton. A new manager to come in at the end of next week. That will give him the international break to get some time with the players before his first game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 minute ago, New Beginnings said: Sick of 'trusting the process' now tbh! The group have had ages to target who they want for both positions! I fully expected to know by bow and the new manager with the new manager in the stands to watch the game on Saturday! Fat chance of that happening now! You "Fully expected"? - I didn't realise the consortium were required to report in to you? These things take time. Negotiations are complex. Who would you go for? And they haven't had "ages", the takeover came out of the blue when they were expecting nothing to happen until at least next year. No point having names lined up now when things can and will change so much by then. I'd far rather we took the time to get the right person in, rather than rush things, get the wrong person, and get relegated just so that your "expectations" are met. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Beginnings Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chris_R said: You "Fully expected"? - I didn't realise the consortium were required to report in to you? These things take time. Negotiations are complex. Who would you go for? And they haven't had "ages", the takeover came out of the blue when they were expecting nothing to happen until at least next year. No point having names lined up now when things can and will change so much by then. I'd far rather we took the time to get the right person in, rather than rush things, get the wrong person, and get relegated just so that your "expectations" are met. Id go all out for my number 1 target. This should have been decided within a few days. If this would have happened we'd have got wind, so it obviously hasn't. Apart from the Fonseca name, its been silence and speculative. Im genuinely concerned that they don't know what they are doing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, New Beginnings said: Sick of 'trusting the process' now tbh! The group have had ages to target who they want for both positions! I fully expected to know by bow and the new manager with the new manager in the stands to watch the game on Saturday! Fat chance of that happening now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 minute ago, New Beginnings said: Id go all out for my number 1 target. This should have been decided within a few days. If this would have happened we'd have got wind, so it obviously hasn't. Apart from the Fonseca name, its been silence and speculative. Im genuinely concerned that they don't know what they are doing! It's annoying having to wait a while but try to save your concern for the actual appointment (or otherwise). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 minute ago, New Beginnings said: Id go all out for my number 1 target. This should have been decided within a few days. If this would have happened we'd have got wind, so it obviously hasn't. Apart from the Fonseca name, its been silence and speculative. Im genuinely concerned that they don't know what they are doing! Stop pissing your pants man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, New Beginnings said: Id go all out for my number 1 target. This should have been decided within a few days. If this would have happened we'd have got wind, so it obviously hasn't. Apart from the Fonseca name, its been silence and speculative. Im genuinely concerned that they don't know what they are doing! Surely wait till they have appointed someone before deciding if they know what they are doing or not ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Should just shut his mouse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Beginnings Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 I feel a massively underwhelming appointment coming on! Hag Farvre Fonseca Gerrard Chris Wilder: Appointed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 I think if we after a manager in employment, we'd have heard something from his club by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 minute ago, New Beginnings said: I feel a massively underwhelming appointment coming on! Hag Farvre Fonseca Gerrard Chris Wilder: Appointed! Off topic, but are you normally a ‘glass half empty’ sort of chap per chance? we’ve had to wait (yes, WAIT) for over two YEARS (if not double that) to get the club sold. Now you’re stressing because the club hasn’t filled the managers position in the last two weeks since they’ve been here? Relax- it’ll get done. And it won’t be Wilder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 There's a vaccum I wasn't expecting that's causing some people a bit of anxiety. We effectively still don't know what their plans are beyond a few interviews when the takeover went through and I guess the managerial appointment is the first sign of that. Was expecting training ground plans, stadium plans or just some presser about their plans which would sooth this situation. 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I think if we after a manager in employment, we'd have heard something from his club by now. but then if it was someone out of work it shouldn't take this long, certainly indicates there's no slam dunk of the unemployed managers because surely that'd be sorted by now and yet your right it would come out if we were approaching clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Like a child that's promised ice-cream but can't wait 40 seconds so starts screaming like a howler monkey in Costa Rica more or less straight away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Wolfcastle said: There's a vaccum I wasn't expecting that's causing some people a bit of anxiety. We effectively still don't know what their plans are beyond a few interviews when the takeover went through and I guess the managerial appointment is the first sign of that. Was expecting training ground plans, stadium plans or just some presser about their plans which would sooth this situation. but then if it was someone out of work it shouldn't take this long, certainly indicates there's no slam dunk of the unemployed managers because surely that'd be sorted by now and yet your right it would come out if we were approaching clubs. I think the bit about a presser outlining their plans would have been done if the takeover was done in the summer/pre season, however our position in the league means they have not done all of that yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 When we get a manager and a director of football there will be no news until January and you lot will have to go to insane levels of depraved while you wait for the next sweet hit of information about things that might happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: I think the bit about a presser outlining their plans would have been done if the takeover was done in the summer/pre season, however our position in the league means they have not done all of that yet. Aye, and thats basically the cause of all of this, the sudden nature of it and in mid-season. Think they just had to jump at it before Ashley could play silly buggers again and re-plan everything from where we are now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Billy Pilgrim said: When we get a manager and a director of football there will be no news until January and you lot will have to go to insane levels of depraved while you wait for the next sweet hit of information about things that might happen TBH, I expect that we will see that we have agreed fee’s and terms with players ready to sign on January 1st between now and then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 The doom mongering after Ashley and Bruce are gone is a bit over the top. Some need some serious deprogramming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Can people stop calling Erik ten Hag "Hag" - you're missing the ten in his surname. *assuming I'm not worong here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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