Guest HTT II Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I’m happy for them to be looking at two or more type of playing/managerial/system/structure philosophies even if they in say Emery and Howe are totally different, what’s the saying, don’t put all your eggs in the one basket… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: I don’t know about that, they are completely polar opposites, I think it’s fair to be reticent if they are so far apart I think it’s of course fair to have his reservations. But being concerned by other people on the shortlist is bizarre in my book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Really trying hard not to criticise the new owners, but that doesn't mean they're immune from it. Yesterday I was, like everyone, completely made up that they were after a top manager who's in a job - one who essentially would have cost them £14m to appoint. Seemed their process we were told to trust was absolutely bang on. It's obviously impossible for us to know who leaked it to the press (seems Ornstein was first, followed by everybody else jumping on the story not to be left behind), but it is poor form, especially given Villareal had a hugely important game to contend with. I'd be pissed if I was Emery/their owner too. Not of the opinion that it's a shitshow (just yet), but the handling of the takeover in 2020 and of the Bruce situation were poor imo. No good leaking to the press without 100% certainty else you just end up with egg on your face, and a massive shitty stick for people to beat you with. I don't buy into the fact it's completely dead either, owners on the continent generally use media as a mouthpiece. Many times we've seen owners say 'XYZ player is DEFINITELY staying' only for him to later leave, generally a ploy to get more £££. But the leaks from our side yesterday were ill timed and seemingly very premature. The sooner we appoint some proper football people in Sporting Director & CEO roles the better. It will come in time, but unfortunately time is something we do not have right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Why would/should he care who we would go for if he turns us down ? Bullshit that from ryder.. not a manager alive that cares what the next man in line could do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, hakka said: Has this been confirmed it IS the consortium?!? @TheGuvsaid it wasn’t the consortium, it can’t be Villarreal/Emery/Spain as the wouldn’t know about Howe. Who is left? Those dealing with the work permit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Daddy chill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, James said: @TheGuvsaid it wasn’t the consortium, it can’t be Villarreal/Emery/Spain as the wouldn’t know about Howe. Who is left? Those dealing with the work permit Charnley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 The middle east dentist says it's off fwiw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, kisearch said: I have to say I don't think it's all that important that the styles of Emery and Howe are totally different. The philosophy at the moment is clearly 'stay in the PL' and the style of play is probably, or at least should be, secondary to things like win %, success in the PL, getting the best out of poor players, etc etc. If we were a comfortably mid-table team it would be more important and I'd expect someone like Fonseca to have been more in the running. That’s obviously the primary goal right now, but I do believe they are considering all factors for further down the line too and that’s probably why we are looking at Howe or Fonseca or Emery. All different types of managers and personalities with different ideas and levels of experience and pedigree. Again, I’m happy with that and I’d actually be worried if they weren’t doing such due diligence, they’ve just spunked 300 + million and settled a 1bn legal bill on a relegation threatened team with no win in ten, 6 points adrift and with a shambles of a team, coaching set up, academy and facilities. Edited November 3, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) Have to commend the new owners on maintaining the traditions of NUFC re manager appointments. Now, I don't mind taking time to get the right man but seemingly briefing the media that it's almost done when its anything but is so NUFC. Edited November 3, 2021 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Worst part of all this is if we don't end up with Emery, the whole world now knows whoever comes in isn't their choice. It's like Spurs this summer, except they weren't 6 points adrift and staring down the barrel of relegation. I've defended them taking their time to appoint one, but it's all going south very quickly at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 The Howe thing is a sort of fair question but it's not as binary as just 'philosophy', is it? Howe may have been way down the initial list but everyone else has shown little interest, they might see Howe as a good shot-in-the-arm manager that is here for a year or two, but would rather have someone higher calorie like Emery to be here for many years. Maybe Howe has learnt from his days at Bournemouth and has talked about more balance during the process? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, jack j said: The middle east dentist says it's off fwiw Is he still pretending he knows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Wonder if the leak came from a certain Mr Jones? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, Ankles Bennett said: Wonder if the leak came from a certain Mr Jones? I doubt he would know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Gallowgate Toon said: but would rather have someone higher calorie like Emery to be here for many years. Subtle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, jack j said: The middle east dentist says it's off fwiw It probably is off, but it’s not like that cunt knows anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Let's all just make up reasons for the leak. I am going to go with Jamie Reuben leaked it. Trouble in paradise at the top. He is in a massive huff as he wants his best mate Frank Lampard in charge, but the rest of the consortium think he is being a daft cunt, so he is stropping around, not turning up for the last match and leaking all sorts of shite so he can get Frank in............ Burnsie or Edwards can have that one if they want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: I’m genuinely puzzled why Charnley still has a job. It’s mind blowing Same here, I’d like them to be more ruthless, but I think they don’t want to be ‘unkind’ to anyone at the start of their process, that or they have taken pity on the cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 20 minutes ago, thomas said: So, as much as I hate to agree with any of the completely OTT "this is a complete 3-ring shitshow circus" criticisms .... if it transpires that they were set to say yes to all his demands and get him in and somehow he was the last person to be informed of that, that is a bad look. Putting the media cart before the manager horse. Er. Yeah. We'll go with that. Need to not count their chickens before they're hatched. Still probably not the apocalypse being reported but I guess we'll see. I think it was more that they had done all the interviews and decided that they were going to go with Emery, and someone in the media got wind off it somehow. I think the idea was that today was when they were going to confirm with Emery and finalise everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Gaztoon said: Bullshit that from ryder.. not a manager alive that cares what the next man in line could do. Totally he would be talking himself out the job with comments like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, jack j said: The middle east dentist says it's off fwiw ? so he had a source in both the old and new set up, very impressive from a dentist in Dubai Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, ManDoon said: I’m genuinely puzzled why Charnley still has a job. It’s mind blowing Charnley's head is in a spin. He is trying to explain to the new owners that we need to do 2 years worth of monitoring before anything else, he isn't used to moving like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, James said: @TheGuvsaid it wasn’t the consortium, it can’t be Villarreal/Emery/Spain as the wouldn’t know about Howe. Who is left? Those dealing with the work permit They are never going to admit to it, despite what theguv knows. Absolutely laughable you can't criticize the consortium on here with some members. They've been handing stuff to certain members of the press since the takeover saga started, clear as day. Edited November 3, 2021 by neesy111 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Yikes. Don’t know the ins-and-outs of this but it’s not a good look for us, I must say. Hopefully, it gets resolved but I doubt it; a top class manager, who is happy where he is, won’t want to risk a good thing to get into bed with a bunch of knuckleheads (if they did indeed leak this prematurely). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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