Mattoon Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Everton haven't been been relegated since 1950, about time that changed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 If Everton do go down (they won't, but we can dream) how much blame will be placed on Rafa do we reckon? I'm torn between not wanting to put too much blame on the manager who comes in half way through the season, and thinking it's harsh on Rafa who we know would turn it around and generally finishes seasons very strongly. Maybe it would be neither of their faults. It's the boards for not sticking with a manager and getting some consistency in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I personally think Everton will be right in the mix. A draw today would be ideal for us, but a Leeds win, otherwise. Think Leeds are far less likely to go down than Everton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, toon25 said: I personally think Everton will be right in the mix. A draw today would be ideal for us, but a Leeds win, otherwise. Think Leeds are far less likely to go down than Everton It’s hard to contemplate Everton going down , pretty sure it’s not gonna happen but I’m loving them squirm , just glad we got 3 points off them , I still stick by Burnley , Watford and Norwich, we are still in it too mind obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Everton are one of those teams that you think is too good to go down but isn't quite the sum of its parts, they don't have the character in that squad to deal with a relegation scrap. Dele Ali was a big mistake too, clearly a bad egg, believes his own hype and hasn't done anything of note for 2 seasons. The only thing they have going for them is the current bottom 3 are trash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) If you’ve watched Everton play recently, they definitely can go down. It’s not like they’ve been unlucky, they’ve been tragically bad. I’ve said it already but if English Frank doesn’t get a bounce in their next two games and DCL doesn’t recover and get his form back they’ve got a decent chance of going down. I think all the other teams fighting for relegation have a better mentality and a clearer plan on the way they’re going to play Edited February 12, 2022 by gbandit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, gbandit said: If you’ve watched Everton play recently, they definitely can go down. It’s not like they’ve been unlucky, they’ve been tragically bad. I’ve said it already but if English Frank doesn’t get a bounce in their next two games and DCL doesn’t recover and get his form back they’ve got a decent chance of going down. I think all the other teams fighting for relegation have a better mentality and a clearer plan on the way they’re going to play Huge game for them today, glad we can sit back and really any result benefits us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Is it fair to say if Everton goes down, they will be the best team on paper ever relegated from the Premier League? West Ham had some decent players in 2003, but many of them were very young at that time. We had many big names in 2008, but many of them on the decline. Everton has many big names who are in their prime at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I’d say so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) Our 08/09 team was pretty good at the time, players like Martins, Owen, Coloccini, Enrique and Jonas. This Everton team is still miles better than that team though. They’d easily be the best to go down. Edited February 12, 2022 by Fantail Breeze Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseman Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I still feel frank will turn it around there and string enough wins together to keep them safe, but I'll still live in hope that they continue to implode for the next few months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Is my hatred of frank lampard as a manager rational? It goes back to 'spygate' in championship when Frank got incredibly upset over Bielsa doing due diligent scouting (which is kinda hilarious cos I can't see why Bielsa does it considering his tactics are exactly teh same regardless). I don't know if Lampard does all the behind the scenes hard work looking at data etc he comes accross as having such a high opinion of himself that he is above all that. He could not sort out Chelsea's defence, froze out players and he is the one manager they've had for ever who could take on a dressing room that is famous for turning on managers. How quickly Tuchel sorted the defence out is shocking. Still there was stuff to admire in how good going forward they were and bringing Mount through. I just can't help but think he's out of his depth but totally unaware of it. Also Tory wanker but that's kinda irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tiresias said: Also Tory wanker and that's always irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Brentford and Leeds could get dragged into the dog fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Very nicely poised, if we continue our progress. Looking at the teams in the bottom half, I think we can be confident of beating them. Maybe not Leicester, and maybe Southampton. And we've played Leeds. If we can beat each of them we will be dragging them into the mire, giving them more to play for in the games against other relegation rivals. One or two hard fought draws against the rest and we should be safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Think we're half a cut above the three teams below us but you can never rely on us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) If Norwich get beat and we contrive to beat Villa tomorrow, I'll be very confident in staying up. Edited February 12, 2022 by HaydnNUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Just now, Skeletor said: Think we're half a cut above the three teams below us but you can never rely on us. Will come down to luck with major injuries or even short injuries to major players. Avoid them and I think we'll be ok. No further knocks to the likes of Trippier please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Brentford have Arsenal away next too (I kna it's Arsenal) so should really be another loss for them before they play us too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Win tomorrow and it's a 2. I think we'd have more chance of catching the likes of Leeds & Brentford than the 3 below us catching us if that happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 We COULD pull away a bit tomorrow if we win and still have a game in hand over Norwich. This is assuming Norwich lose to City mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Tommorow is big in a different way to the other games lately. Others have been huge just to get our head above water. Win this and we start to somehow build a gap. Unthinkable at Christmas really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: Tommorow is big in a different way to the other games lately. Others have been huge just to get our head above water. Win this and we start to somehow build a gap. Unthinkable at Christmas really. The last two games have been significant in building my confidence, going into this. In those games we seem to have fixed everything that was broken. Villa is a different test, of course, but I'll remain anxiously confident until things look awful again. Win this and I'll be confident against West Ham. Edited February 12, 2022 by Happinesstan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 16 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Win tomorrow and it's a 2. I think we'd have more chance of catching the likes of Leeds & Brentford than the 3 below us catching us if that happens. Win tomorrow and it’s a 0 for me , we will stay up if we win , IF Norwich get beat tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I mean it's been a few days since then, but one thing that worries me is if the players can recharge mentally and play with the same intensity and energy tomorrow. I'm sure we can physically. Let's hope so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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