LRD Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Any chance that Watford are going to get reinforcements from Udinese? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 The competitive imbalances in the league these days - compared to even three or four years ago - mean that you can't use previous seasons to accurately predict what we're going to require to stay up. As @Robster says, we simply need more than whatever Burnley and Watford get. At the current rate, we wouldn't even need to get to 30 points to achieve that, let alone the magic 40. These days, the worst teams in the league are absolutely honking compared to basically everyone above them, even poorer teams or teams out of form. There's so much competence across the majority of the league that the small number of truly awful teams are absolutely gasping for every morsel of oxygen available between themselves, as opposed to competitive battles where anyone from 12th down can get sucked in. 9th-16th is going to be as pointless and interchangeable as it can get. Points difference between 10th place and 18th place over the last ten years: 2010-11: 8 points (47 / 39) 11-12: 11 (47 / 36) 12-13: 10 (46 / 36) 13-14: 12 (49 / 37) 14-15: 13 (48 / 35) 15-16: 13 (50 / 37) 16-17: 11 (45 / 34) 17-18: 11 (44 / 33) 18-19: 18! (52 / 34) 19-20: 20!! (54 / 34) 20-21: 31!!! (59 / 28) 59 points to finish 10th ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 It is hilarious how high you can finish with a terrible points total now. Helped Bruce out a treat. That said, still would be extremely worried if we don’t get high 30s. Whether logical or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, LRD said: Any chance that Watford are going to get reinforcements from Udinese? They already have one he signed yesterday: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: It is hilarious how high you can finish with a terrible points total now. Helped Bruce out a treat. That said, still would be extremely worried if we don’t get high 30s. Whether logical or not. Yep. The difference between the top and the bottom is getting more and more stark. You don't need to win that many games to finish clear of the relegation zone, if the last couple of (and this) seasons is anything to go by. 2010-11: 1st-10th: 608 points shared 11th-20th: 421 points shared (187 more points shared among top half than bottom half) 2020-21: 1st-10th: 668 11th-20th: 389 (279 more points shared among top half than bottom half) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Really want a new signing or two for this game, just to give us an extra lift! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 29 points would have been enough last season but in general it's about 35 points I think. It was that the previous 2 seasons. This stage of the season in 18/19 Burnley were on 12 points yet stayed up comfortably with 40. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59874808 Sarr away to Afcon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Burnley Watford draw please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Looks like Watford play Norwich after Burnley game too. Vital we beat Watford or they’ll start to become out of sight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Looking forward to the new poll on 1st Feb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 At the moment it would be the same as the old poll except Wilson's fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 04/01/2022 at 03:28, McCormick said: The lowest points total, ever, to stay up has been 34. Years of data back that up, so it’s not outlandish to suggest that that’s (at least) the figure needed. 29 points would have kept us up last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Inferior Acuña said: 29 points would have kept us up last season. 28 technically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Inferior Acuña said: 29 points would have kept us up last season. My bad. PL website is useless apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, madras said: 28 technically. Well I'm thinking if we were 17 points worse off our GD (-16 in reality) would be a lot worse, and most likely worse than Fulham's (-26). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, McCormick said: My bad. PL website is useless apparently. It sort of depends how you look at it. 29 points wouldn't have been enough for Fulham to get out the bottom 3, but for us and any other team outside it was enough to keep them above Fulham/the bottom 3. I guess the PL site shows the actual lowest points total of a surviving team. Last year that would be 39 points, but it doesn't really tell the story since they were 11 points above the drop. Edited January 6, 2022 by Inferior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Back up to a 10 unless this week brings a striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, GWN said: Back up to a 10 unless this week brings a striker Yeah I'm up to a 9 after today. Only a glut of players bought this month saves us now. Howe has got to win next week, any thing less will be unacceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, GWN said: Back up to a 10 unless this week brings a striker Even a star striker won’t make the difference, it’s not as if one can just win games on their own single handed, we have a shit defence, a shit midfield, zero confidence, 1 win all season and 14 years of neglect, WE ARE GOING DOWN! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 win in 21 games is horrendous like (including the 2 Cup games). Incredible we are only 2 points from safety and go ahead of Watford if we beat them. That game is fucking ridiculously important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Too much pressure. Our lot are born losers. Next week goes one way and that's a big fat L thanks to a clanger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, xLiaaamx said: Too much pressure. Our lot are born losers. Next week goes one way and that's a big fat L thanks to a clanger. That's the spirit We are relegated when mathematically it's impossible to stay up. We have a chance to reinforce and by God, do we need to do it and fairly fast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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