Willow Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 What a fucking immense signing I think he's going to be fantastic and at 22 will only get better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Up the fucking botman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Never seen him play or watched any highlights, but it’s good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Love the way we’re dropping £35m on a player and it’s nothing these days. Remember a big fuss made when we spent £20m on Almiron only 4 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Ffootball%2F2022%2F06%2F28%2Fwhy-newcastle-united-signed-sven-botman-dutchman-who-could-become%2F Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Anyone else think he looks a little slow? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Love the way we’re dropping £35m on a player and it’s nothing these days. Remember a big fuss made when we spent £20m on Almiron only 4 years ago. and presuming he must be really fucking good because that amount was completely alien to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Bruno’s my boy, my new favourite player of all time, but genuinely feel this signing is bigger That was my feeling in Jan, this was the signing that would define the development of the club. The arse on this month has tainted things somewhat and feel he may just end up being another significant piece of the jigsaw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: and presuming he must be really fucking good because that amount was completely alien to us. Then signing Joelinton for a figure we could only dream of and him being crap until his recent glow up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 So he cost less than half a Harry Maguire? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 I am wondering with comment on him playing with Burn is Howe is thinking of shifting to his old 3-4-3 so Pope Schar Botman Burn Trips Bruno Joelinton Target New RW Wilson ASM In posession Burn might push up as he did play left back for Brighton to create overloads and compensate for ASM not doing much pressing. My concern with this would be midfield obviously good with them two, where this works you might want a forward who can drop back when needed and link up with midfield but Wilson is not that type Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Tiresias said: I am wondering with comment on him playing with Burn is Howe is thinking of shifting to his old 3-4-3 so Pope Schar Botman Burn Trips Bruno Joelinton Target New RW Wilson ASM In posession Burn might push up as he did play left back for Brighton to create overloads and compensate for ASM not doing much pressing. My concern with this would be midfield obviously good with them two, where this works you might want a forward who can drop back when needed and link up with midfield but Wilson is not that type He just means it doesn’t matter if both your centre backs are left footed. Burn and Botman can play alongside each other and it’s fine. There won’t be any major formation change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tiresias said: I am wondering with comment on him playing with Burn is Howe is thinking of shifting to his old 3-4-3 so Pope Schar Botman Burn Trips Bruno Joelinton Target New RW Wilson ASM In posession Burn might push up as he did play left back for Brighton to create overloads and compensate for ASM not doing much pressing. My concern with this would be midfield obviously good with them two, where this works you might want a forward who can drop back when needed and link up with midfield but Wilson is not that type Against the bigger teams when we're defending in large spells, that looks decent. Wouldn't want it FT though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Dokko said: Against the bigger teams when we're defending in large spells, that looks decent. Wouldn't want it FT though. I read that one of Botman’s strengths (Ajax developed) is pressie forward passing. We’ll create more attacks straight from the back line with at the centre of a three or a two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 We've spent all season developing a good 433. There's no need to change up what we're doing, we just need to put better players into the jigsaw. Neither Trippier or Targett are wing backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Quote Newcastle were aware that AC Milan had been quoted a lower fee and did not budge in the negotiations for weeks. Botman was on international duty and then on holiday but his representatives made it clear that Botman wanted to join. Having left Lille to deal with the transfer talks, it appears the French club lowered their demands when they realised an unhappy player would return to pre-season training and AC Milan were not going to get involved in the bidding war they had hoped for. That led to a breakthrough last weekend which will see Newcastle pay £30m now, with the fee possibly rising to closer to £40m with various performance related add-ons. It has been a feature of Newcastle’s approach as they look to make the most of their transfer budget this summer. On the face of things, Milan had everything going for them. They were the reigning Italian champions and will be playing in the Champions League next season. There was supreme confidence that Botman would sign for them just a few weeks ago. What Milan did not have was the ready cash to pay Lille what they wanted up front. There were also some internal disputes about whether they really needed another centre-back, even though the club’s technical director, Paolo Maldini, was very keen to get him. That left the window open for Newcastle who moved swiftly. The fact they have made such a determined effort to get in January also played well with Botman and his advisors. He felt wanted and was flattered. That was crucial in the end. Rather than delay the transfer because he wanted to go to Italy, the only hold-up was Lille trying to extract more money than Newcastle were willing to pay. It turned into a long and stressful poker game, but in the end Lille folded. Newcastle’s negotiating team deserve a lot of credit and it is understood that manager Eddie Howe also played an important role, giving a detailed explanation of why he wanted Botman and what role he would have in the team. It was an impressive pitch and once the fee and terms of payment were agreed, Botman said yes immediately. AC Milan might have the grander history and Champions League football but the project at Newcastle was one that excited the young Dutchman. In the end, Newcastle’s bid was stronger from both a football and a financial perspective. The idea of being part of an ambitious project in England was simply more attractive than playing for the champions of Italy. It is a major feather in the new regime’s cap. I take it all back, Luke, you've got iz on the vinegars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 What does it mean -a deal 'in principle' with Lille? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Is he our Kompany? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: Is he our Kompany? I was gonna say Vidic but Kompany's alright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Similar to de Ligt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, duo said: What does it mean -a deal 'in principle' with Lille? As I understand it, that phrase is being used because the actual 'effective date' of the transfer will not be until this Friday, 1st July 2022. That is because the current accountability period for FFP ends on the 30th June, and wef from 1st July the next period starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 So does that mean we’ll have only spent 30m of whatever our summer budget is? Could potentially have another 100m to spend on 2 positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 brilliant. Next! onwards and upwards! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, manorpark said: As I understand it, that phrase is being used because the actual 'effective date' of the transfer will not be until this Friday, 1st July 2022. That is because the current accountability period for FFP ends on the 30th June, and wef from 1st July the next period starts. I don't see how that helps from a FPP point of view. FFP is calculated over three years, if anything from a FFP point of view we'd want the first chunk of his fee in the previous year because it would be gone from the calculation a year sooner. Edited June 28, 2022 by Jackie Broon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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