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14 minutes ago, toon25 said:

What a statement signing Tielemans would be

Always thought he struggled athletically personally. Nice player, neat and tidy with good passing range but we’d basically be blowing our budget on almost replicating Shelvey. Not seeing what others are seeing on this one. What am I missing?

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1 minute ago, McCormick said:

People not rating Tielemens now? Yikes. Either way, he isn’t coming here (unfortunately).


I don’t get why folks in here are obsessed with having athletic/physical players in every role or possession even when those roles don’t need those qualities. 

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1 minute ago, Rich said:

He is as much of an un-athletic slug as Bruno tbf.

Which is my concern. Still having flashbacks of Liverpool running through our midfield with our players trailing in their wake.  Definitely need a different type of midfielder IMO.

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1 hour ago, Infatuation Junkie said:

Even if we spend 100 million. Doesn't this get spread over possibly 5 years so we are actually affecting FFP by 20 million. 

 

Or am I totally out of the picture.

 

 

It’s spread over the contract of the player so if we sign players on a 5 year contracts that’s how it works, but not every player will sign a 5 year deal 

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7 minutes ago, Kimbo said:

There's no way Tielemans is coming here this summer anyway.

It's crackers, but it does seem like contact has been made at some level.

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Tielmans would be a big statement. We don't NEED him, not in the same way we NEEDED a CB or NEED a RW and ST. However it would be an indulgence that perhaps would be too good to turn down. 

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2 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

Tielmans would be a big statement. We don't NEED him, not in the same way we NEEDED a CB or NEED a RW and ST. However it would be an indulgence that perhaps would be too good to turn down. 


Yeah, statement that we’re looking to take their place as the side to challenge the ‘big 6’.

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20 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Always thought he struggled athletically personally. Nice player, neat and tidy with good passing range but we’d basically be blowing our budget on almost replicating Shelvey. Not seeing what others are seeing on this one. What am I missing?

I feel the same, always has flattered to deceive. He seems too lightweight for midfield and is one of those player who turns up for one in three games. Not my cup of char tbh...

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20 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Which is my concern. Still having flashbacks of Liverpool running through our midfield with our players trailing in their wake.  Definitely need a different type of midfielder IMO.

 

Agree with this. Hence my want of a DM/#6 to cope with that scenario, but it's far from the most pressing matter that requires attention in our squad. Striker and winger are far more important. 

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Broja is the link that makes the most sense to me - we need instant improvement but can't buy as many players as we would like to because of FFP, loaning quality ticks both of our boxes. Broja will play and develop more up here than sitting on Chelsea's bench for 85% of the season. Chelsea get a chunky loan fee and lend a good/challenging/dangerous team a player who could help to hopefully take points from Chelsea's direct rivals without having to face him themselves. The whole thing just makes sense for all parties. 

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Saints fan on their forum re Broja in response to a q from a Newcastle fan:

 

 

 

He's the next Shearer.

 

OK, so that's probably not true, but he does have all the attributes to be a very fine striker for someone. As has been mentioned, he is very quick and strong, but its not all straight line stuff, he has ball skills (dribbling) and ability to beat a defender all ends up. That's rare at the top level.

 

I think his touch is decent too. Some Saints fans criticised he link up play, but it looked OK to me. He certainly looks at home at this level - he's a premiership standard player - there is no disputing that, but can he become a `Prem great'?

 

There were a few occasions last season when he beat a man, the angle was tight and he still went for a shot, often skewing the ball wide. Some fans weren't happy at that. The term greedy was used and a lack of vision, but IMO you need strikers that take responsibility and are a little greedy. You don't want the skewing/shanking it wide though of course, and perhaps that is where he can improve - choosing not to shoot when its really not on. I should say that he didn't do this a loads, maybe five or six times, but it was noticeable. Of course, its easy to say he can improve there, but its a lot harder to actually do it.

 

When it comes to attitude, that is something that will be argued about on here. Some suggested he switched off in the run in last season, but I'd counter that he looked royally miffed when dropped and seemed desperate for more goals. Perhaps that was for personal gain rather than the team, but who knows.  All our strikers were completely starved of service, so I don't buy into the idea that he was on the beach before others. We were shite, everyone played shite. I don't see a lack of work rate or effort, ever. To get this far you have work your socks off. It makes me laugh when people question them as people. 

 

My money would be on West Ham getting him. He took them to pieces a couple of times, so they have seen the best of him. For me, £25m is a good price.

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Just now, midds said:

Broja is the link that makes the most sense to me - we need instant improvement but can't buy as many players as we would like to because of FFP, loaning quality ticks both of our boxes. Broja will play and develop more up here than sitting on Chelsea's bench for 85% of the season. Chelsea get a chunky loan fee and lend a good/challenging/dangerous team a player who could help to hopefully take points from Chelsea's direct rivals without having to face him themselves. The whole thing just makes sense for all parties. 

Great point 

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1 hour ago, et tu brute said:


Wasn't he against the Saudi deal?, if so that maybe the reason. Fair enough if it was and he feels so strongly about it.

 

Nah it wasn't that, he didn't agree with some aspects of it, but he was happy enough with us being a football club again. I think he posted his picture on here recently, maybe he wamts to go incognito again.

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