WillingtonMag Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: Diaby would be a ridiculous signing, but he's certainly not worth some of the prices being quoted. He's rapid, decent close control and can finish with both feet, but he's still really raw with things like decision making and positional awareness. You're paying for mad potential though. I think we'll make a big statement signing, got to remember the statements of the owners when they took over about wanting us to compete at the top. If that's what they want to do then they'll have to make statement signings to do it, even to keep up with Spurs now is going to take more investment than what we've made so far. Know its early days like but more you fall behind harder it is to catch these teams back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 minute ago, WillingtonMag said: I think we'll make a big statement signing, got to remember the statements of the owners when they took over about wanting us to compete at the top. If that's what they want to do then they'll have to make statement signings to do it, even to keep up with Spurs now is going to take more investment than what we've made so far. Know its early days like but more you fall behind harder it is to catch these teams back up. Has to balanced out with sensible, realistic signings though. You don’t just spend on players to make a ‘statement’ unless they are what the manager wants, Targett and Burn improved us immensely in Jan and they were low fee signings that proved to be right choice. Thankfully our owners seem to have adopted the right approach and arnt just throwing money around like Everton did, I’d rather the manager got who and what he wants for reasonable money that lines up with the point we are at financially than do the former. The squad needs steady growth over a couple of seasons, wage structure will slowly advance with that as we get new sponsorships in place that will allow to push our FFP limit further and further and then and only then we will see the big, marquee signings happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Diaby would be a ridiculous signing, but he's certainly not worth some of the prices being quoted. He's rapid, decent close control and can finish with both feet, but he's still really raw with things like decision making and positional awareness. You're paying for mad potential though. Yeah. Seen him play a few times and, while he looks direct and exciting, there’s nothing to suggest he’s a 50m pound player. Very raw. I don’t think there’s that much between him and Sarr currently; remember Sarr was being talked about in the same way Diaby is now, before his move to Watford. Would say though Diaby has the higher ceiling, in theory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Nine said: Has to balanced out with sensible, realistic signings though. You don’t just spend on players to make a ‘statement’ unless they are what the manager wants, Targett and Burn improved us immensely in Jan and they were low fee signings that proved to be right choice. Thankfully our owners seem to have adopted the right approach and arnt just throwing money around like Everton did, I’d rather the manager got who and what he wants for reasonable money that lines up with the point we are at financially than do the former. The squad needs steady growth over a couple of seasons, wage structure will slowly advance with that as we get new sponsorships in place that will allow to push our FFP limit further and further and then and only then we will see the big, marquee signings happen. I didn't mean making a statement for statements sake we are or maybe should be after a good right winger or centre forward if we get a quality player in one of or both of those positions it's likely gonna take a big fee which will have everyone stand up and take notice and have the whole city/club jumping even more and add to the belief for the coming season. If we can get bargains like Trippier and Burn great but think it's harder in the positions we're looking at now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 54 minutes ago, WillingtonMag said: I think we'll make a big statement signing, got to remember the statements of the owners when they took over about wanting us to compete at the top. If that's what they want to do then they'll have to make statement signings to do it, even to keep up with Spurs now is going to take more investment than what we've made so far. Know its early days like but more you fall behind harder it is to catch these teams back up. I think our advantage is going to be how consistent we will be in the transfer windows. I doubt we have a single boring window for a while, every time we will improve while this won't be the case for most even some big clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, kingxlnc said: Looking at it logically, Man City, Liverpool are top 2. I think Spurs under Conte are going to challenge, he is formidable. Chelsea I'm unsure about under new owners but I rate Tuchel highly plus a strong base set of players. Man U will have a better season, plus Sancho and VDB are like new signings Top 6 could be doable, Arsenal are an unknown entity as of yet, they still seem too soft. So could definitely challenge for top 6 for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 While the jury is obviously out we saw improvement from Willock, Longstaff and Shelvey by seasons end. You can see why Howe is optimistic he can use all three. He did however talk about having to be ruthless. If we have the room and budget, replacing one of those with a quality CM should still happen. We need that RW and Striker though first. January seems more realistic. Jan/next summer: CM, RCB, another striker, Trippiers successor. Potential 2nd LB if Lewis doesn't improve. Wing improvements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Willock has a bright future here, Longstaff’s future is uncertain long-term. Shelvey will be gone in a year’s time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, McCormick said: Yeah. Seen him play a few times and, while he looks direct and exciting, there’s nothing to suggest he’s a 50m pound player. Very raw. I don’t think there’s that much between him and Sarr currently; remember Sarr was being talked about in the same way Diaby is now, before his move to Watford. Would say though Diaby has the higher ceiling, in theory. What is a £50m player these days? We were getting quoted £40m for a 29 yr old defender in January, getting international forwards with end product isn't going to be cheap, especially if they are still relatively young. I suppose it depends on what is available as a less expensive alternative with similar attributes. Sarr ha been mentioned and I wouldn't be against that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Might be a case of getting Broja in on loan first before we commit more money on a wide player. Or if loan options dry up - then we instead look at two permanent options at 25-30 each. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 I'm absolutely stunned that Luke Edwards is already reporting that talks are deadlocked. Not like him to put a negative spin on a story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 I consider him actually saying that we want Diaby as a victory over his contrarianism tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: I consider him actually saying that we want Diaby as a victory over his contrarianism tbh. Anyone else noticed how readily he's changed his tune about the owners btw? Staveley in particular. He wasn't far off mocking her before the takeover and now he's absolutely desperate to shoe horn a compliment over the new ownership in every article. Fucking two faced cretin. Hope Reuben calls in a tory favour and get's him banged off to cover St Mirren for the rest of his career tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 If we open talks or bid for Diaby, the first we'll here of it is from either Leverkusen leaking it to the German press or his agent leaking it to the French press. Ashworth clearly keeps a tight ship when it comes to leaks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Minhosa said: Hope Reuben calls in a tory favour and get's him banged off to cover St Mirren for the rest of his career tbh If people could refrain from reminding me that Reuben is a massive Tory that would be great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: If people could refrain from reminding me that Reuben is a massive Tory that would be great! Sorry to bring it to your attention but Mandy is a massive tory too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: Sorry to bring it to your attention but Mandy is a massive tory too. Rich people in voting rich people to help them stay rich shocker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: Sorry to bring it to your attention but Mandy is a massive tory too. Nearly all rich people are. The rich will always rich. My probs with young Jamie is his hanging around the foodbank for props. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Nearly all rich people are. The rich will always rich. My probs with young Jamie is his hanging around the foodbank for props. Nearly all unless you include the entire entertainment industry which is almost exclusively on the left, but obviously they're all very working class and on the bread line.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 I mean, both Reuben and Staveley have got into a business arrangement with one of the the repressive regimes in the world intent on using the club to improve their image in the face of gross human rights violations. Doesnt scream having the moral compass to shun the Conservative Party for the greater good does it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Does it say anything about me that I’m happier they are friends with SA the most rather than the Tories? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Teasy said: Nearly all unless you include the entire entertainment industry which is almost exclusively on the left, but obviously they're all very working class and on the bread line.. Countering a sweeping generalisation with another sweeping generalisation doesn't a point make. True many in the entertainment industry are classed as being "on the left" but, in reality, are plain liberals who'll protect their wealth when push comes to shove. Liberals always side with the establishment in the end. For every Liniker I'll give you a Lord Andrew Lloyd Webber Mind not all footballers are like England's Mickey Owen either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Teasy said: Nearly all unless you include the entire entertainment industry which is almost exclusively on the left, but obviously they're all very working class and on the bread line.. The people you're talking about here are generally liberals. Nothing to do with the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Oh wonderful, politics again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, HTT II said: Does it say anything about me that I’m happier they are friends with SA the most rather than the Tories? Yeh, it does tbh. Edited July 5, 2022 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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