Rich Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 I'm jonesing for a signing now, like, so I can understand people starting to lose it a bit. Still fully confident we'll end the window in a much, much better place than where we started it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, gbandit said: If that Sekou Mara info is correct then we‘ve messed up and need to be less dogmatic about our approach My gut instinct is that it isn't true. He was probably on the list of young strikers we were considering, but wasn't a priority. No one this summer, including PSG (!), ever bid as much as we did for Ekitike. If we really had Marra as a priority, I doubt we would have been unwilling to stump up the £10 million or so Southampton look to be paying for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 One thing which is making these signings harder is we are looking at the younger market, which means there's a lot of competition, and the prices are obviously going to be sky high. When the takeover happened, I was actually looking forward to picking up some top class players more around the 29-30 yr old bracket as short term bridge buys, as clubs will let them go relatively cheaply to recoup a transfer fee while they can. Pretty sure Man City and Chelsea did this, but of course they didn't have FFP to deal with. I mean with a £50m budget you could quite feasibly buy to top notch forwards who are a bit older now. Asensio is what - 28? - and I think the fee bandied about was about £20m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Even just a bunch of kids. Anything. Cmon. Do they not care about my F5 key at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, TRon said: Asensio is what - 28? - and I think the fee bandied about was about £20m? Hes 26, and fee has been given as 15-20m. Question marks over his recovery from injury though and the subsequent impact it’s had on his game. Plus he’ll want big wages I’d have thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I think so too, but I also think we will have to overpay to get the players we need. it’s difficult to judge it all, we aren’t very clear as far on how fast we are supposed to be progressing. We know and we have. See Elitike and Botman but there's overpaying and overpaying. Seems they know they'll have to pay more than the going rate, they allow for that but there's only so far they'll go. ie 20mill player we bid 20 then 25 but say we'll walk away if they say 30. Edited July 21, 2022 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 1 minute ago, arnonel said: Even just a bunch of kids. Anything. Cmon. Do they not care about my F5 key at all? Even the ITKs have shut the fuck up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, TRon said: One thing which is making these signings harder is we are looking at the younger market, which means there's a lot of competition, and the prices are obviously going to be sky high. When the takeover happened, I was actually looking forward to picking up some top class players more around the 29-30 yr old bracket as short term bridge buys, as clubs will let them go relatively cheaply to recoup a transfer fee while they can. Pretty sure Man City and Chelsea did this, but of course they didn't have FFP to deal with. I mean with a £50m budget you could quite feasibly buy to top notch forwards who are a bit older now. Asensio is what - 28? - and I think the fee bandied about was about £20m? I think a lot of stuff is being made up, that makes it seem like things are really difficult for us. Just a couple of days ago the media made it seem as though Broja was on the verge of joining West Ham and Kalimuendo was on the verge of joining Leeds, and we had lost out on both, and neither move has happened and are now being reported as being stalled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Manxst said: Hes 26, and fee has been given as 15-20m. Question marks over his recovery from injury though and the subsequent impact it’s had on his game. Plus he’ll want big wages I’d have thought. I saw figures of around 120k being bandied about for wages, which is not outrageous in today's market. Can't speak to the injury doubts though. But regardless, you would still think there would be players available who could do a job for a couple of years, similar to Kieron Trippier. It's just a means of getting the quality level up quickly so you can compete at a higher level immediately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Just now, KaKa said: I think a lot of stuff is being made up, that makes it seem like things are really difficult for us. Just a couple of days ago the media made it seem as though Broja was on the verge of joining West Ham and Kalimuendo was on the verge of joining Leeds, and we had lost out on both, and neither move has happened and are now being reported as being stalled. Yip. Much preferred the old style when there were few rumours. You could go weeks without anything then the Chron would report a signing, John Anderson or Steve Hardwick then it would all go quiet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 1 minute ago, KaKa said: I think a lot of stuff is being made up, that makes it seem like things are really difficult for us. Just a couple of days ago the media made it seem as though Broja was on the verge of joining West Ham and Kalimuendo was on the verge of joining Leeds, and we had lost out on both, and neither move has happened and are now being reported as being stalled. Might be down to a few clubs circling round the same players creating something of an auction. Then you need one to move so another player becomes available. In theory, if PSG have bought Ekitike, you would imagine that means they will now be more open to selling Kalimuendo for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 53 replies since I checked mid morning. Not a single actual link Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 #wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: 53 replies since I checked mid morning. Not a single actual link We should use the yellow ticker whenever a link's posted in this thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Here !!! What's gannin here like ? Saudis offering Ronaldo £250 million and some Japanese golfer £350 million and we get a few quid. It's not on this like I demand 4 £50 million players by the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 48 minutes ago, KaKa said: I think a lot of stuff is being made up, that makes it seem like things are really difficult for us. Just a couple of days ago the media made it seem as though Broja was on the verge of joining West Ham and Kalimuendo was on the verge of joining Leeds, and we had lost out on both, and neither move has happened and are now being reported as being stalled. Its just the nature of social media journalism. I think it was Pete Graves was saying that the best journalists will always aim to get confirmation of a transfer rumour from a player, an agent, the buying club and the selling club, but a lot of the less reputable reporters will run a story based on one of those things, normally the agent. The problem is that agents regularly have a vested interest for leaking a story, correct or not. In the age of social media, the need to report first is way more important than the need to report well. We saw it recently with the Paqueta to Arsenal rumour. A small, unreliable outlet reports that Arsenal are interested in Paqueta. This probably came from his agent. This story is then picked up by tabloids who present it as news, but quote the original source at the bottom of the article. A news aggregators such as NUFC 360 will then pick this up but will only quote the tabloid headline with no context. Bam, a story leaked from a small, unreliable news outlet is now Twitter gospel, all in the name of clicks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ben said: Here !!! What's gannin here like ? Saudis offering Ronaldo £250 million and some Japanese golfer £350 million and we get a few quid. It's not on this like I demand 4 £50 million players by the weekend. I love these extreme views Why can’t fans want 1 x £50m player and a loan …and maybe a freebie ? I don’t think anyone is expecting or demanding 4 x £50m players (apart from the fake Twitter makem accounts pretending to be newcastle fans) Most of us just want a half decent winger and forward (not really arsed about the price to be fair) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 But y'know, nobody respects just "buying the league". Though some definitely moan that we aren't doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 There will be another signing, that much is for certain. There's no way we go into this season without a new attacking player whether ST or RW. That was one of the problems last season and I don't believe for a second that all involved with the club don't understand that and have the determination/ability to fix it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 On to the next one then? Ah I had high hopes for that one. Again tho if the kid isn’t interested why was his agent in Newcastle and this wasn’t even a story till his agent was in Newcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 If you read the report it says (Sesko) said (he wouldn’t be moving) …..the quotes are from just over a month ago !!!! Things change Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 2 hours ago, clintdempsey said: I don't consider myself insane or on the wind-up (but I guess that's not for me to decide ). All I'm saying is that should the window close today we have some gaping holes in the squad which should have been fixed. A striker and a winger is really, really needed and if we could somehow sneak a midfielder in as well that'd be an awesome window. That's not taking anything away from the work put in during the January window or the signings made so far. It would be nice though to miss out on the "frustrated at exorbitant prices"/"in line with FFP"-stories that seem to come up with every link. Hopefully we are just keeping our cards close to our chest and will get the required business done. It's not so much the final position in itself that's important. It's more how we look during the season, how we treat the cups and so on. We have a great opportunity to build something special here and ride the wave of good will from the takeover and the second half of the season. Momentum is key and I'd hate to lose that. It's a little bit crazy to be imagining the window shutting when there's 4/5 weeks left. It would be brilliant to have our squad finalised before the season starts, but I don't think that ever happens. The biggest transfers tend to happen in the last days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 The quotes are from earlier in the summer relating to another transfer - so things could have changed. But it does make sense that he'd be keen to stay and develop for a bit longer. For all the unsavoury elements that come with Red Bull involvement in football young players join them because they are very good at offering clear progression, development and ultimately success for young players. He is Adeyemi's replacement this season - and in a year or twos time he will probably get the same move to a CL team in a bigger league. It will take a lot of convincing (and a big salary) to persuade a young lad to deviate from this path. Or a persuasive agent who is keen to bring his own income forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 2 hours ago, KaKa said: I'm really not sure why people are believing all these reports that we're exasperated by prices and surprised by them, or that we're waiting for clubs to go bust to pick up players on a free. There's no substance to any of it. Most of these journalists have to write something and because things are quiet that's the easiest route to go down. i don't know why anybody believes any reports unless they state the deal is done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: I also think we will have to overpay to get the players we need. Didn't we do that already, to a degree, with Botman? We outbid AC who would have probably got him for their price if we hadn't. We'll probably have to do that for the bigger names who attract more attention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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