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Rafalove

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1 minute ago, ponsaelius said:

It's the same reason why people find Spain boring. Strangling possession in a game to the point where the opposition can't even get a foothold in the match, and suffocate them to death, is dull. It's death by a thousand cuts.

 

If you're a neutral what you like about football usually is that games have a natural to-and-fro. Yes one team may be better and will dominate but there will be transitions and weaknesses that give the other side a chance. And the better side will also hit them on the transitions too.

 

I actually liked watching Barca under Guardiola but I realised later, particularly when watching the same players for Spain, is I actually just liked watching Messi get the ball all the time. 

I agree with most of  this but I think with Pep’s Barca it was a bit different to his Bayern or Manchester City team. His Barca team was all about quick, short little triangle’s, one- two’s, metronomic passing, perfectly weighted through all’s passing through the eye of a needle that no one else in the stadium or at home saw, with each player being beautifully balanced  and having sublime technique.

 

Perhaps having Messi in your team allows you to do that but a lot of the credit has to go to Xavi and Iniesta. Not to mention the fact that a lot of these players came through La Masia and had, a great understanding with each other and the style of football that was being asked of them. I think Xavi once said he could play with Iniesta with his eyes closed he just knew where he was going to be all the time. it was obviously the next step on from the philosophy that Cruyff had installed in the club earlier, which meant a team full of academy graduates were going to be to a certain degree well versed in that type of football.

 

At Pep’s latter clubs, he didn’t have any of that, and I agree that it shows even though it’s still incredibly effective, it doesn’t have any of the beauty of Pep’s Barca. 

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Draxler’s lack of a game-time is due to him not wanting to leave Paris. After being touted around for years, he actually took a pay cut to stay there despite being told he’d be mostly a bench-warmer. From a purely footballing perspective you have to question that kind attitude.

 

That being said, I think he’s a decent player. Slightly slow for a winger but versatile, really clever, good technically and a good presser too. If he’s motivated, I’d take him. 

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With that fabulous natural ability, Draxler has to be very tempting. It looks like he needs to recover his motivation and desire, and our Eddie seems to be very good when it comes to getting inside individual players' heads, seeing what drives them and pressing the right buttons.

 

There seems to have been a bit of turmoil in the player's personal life, and I wonder how easy it would be to tempt him, and his partner, away from the Parisian life. And then there's the issue of his salary, though if we really are in contact with PSG and his agent, presumably the club thinks there's some way forward.

 

Too many obstacles, in all probability, but I'd love it to happen.

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Draxler has barely played for the last three seasons, ~2300 minutes combined in Ligue 1. 6 goals and 9 assists isn't that bad considering the minutes but he has played for a dominant team and often against tired legs. Who knows how he would do in the PL at this stage of his career and whether he even cares anymore.

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Hanshithispantz

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You would imagine any winger we bring in is left footed with an eye for goal like. Or someone like Harrison who's a decent mix of graft and ability.

 

Haven't seen Draxler in years, but he seems more suited to a possession based side?

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Zero said:

Draxler is not a winger


Which is fine as we don’t play with wingers.

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Hanshithispantz

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I mean he's played the majority of his minutes on the wings like (even at PSG) so that's a canny mad claim to make, zero.

 

I suppose him on the right of a midfield 3 would make more sense for us though.

 

 

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54 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

I mean he's played the majority of his minutes on the wings like (even at PSG) so that's a canny mad claim to make, zero.

 

I suppose him on the right of a midfield 3 would make more sense for us though.

 

 

 

 

It’s just like Asensio played as a RW for Real Madrid. It’s only possible when they are playing for a very dominant team where such winger in fact is a wide playmaker. This does not apply to us. Our winger position requires traditional winger.

 

If you think Draxler could work for us, then why not just go for Paqueta? Or we can even try Anderson there.

 

 

 

 

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Hanshithispantz

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We agree in anycase, I'm saying Draxler is more suited to a possession based side (if out on the wing) where as we need either someone like Harrison or Diaby (both direct, the forner being more rounded, the latter being more attacking). He would probably do a job in a midfield 3 but I would much prefer Paqueta, aye.

 

 

 

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16 hours ago, nufc123 said:

Double figures in assists last season not good enough for you?


Maxi loses the ball a lot, but LW is not a problem for us, and certainly would not like to see 50 million spend on someone like Barnes.

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kingxlnc

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I've decided now - the three signings I want to round the team out before end of transfer window most now. 

 

Sesko, Kamaldeen and Pacqueta 

I would also keep Anderson

 

Gives us serious strength in depth up top, and would future proof the team as Anderson, Sesko and Kamaldeen wouldn't need to be registered. 

 

Would bring the total age way down of the squad. 

 

I know that's like £100m of transfers but you could add in sell on and other clauses for first two, loan with obligation to buy for Pacqueta. 

 

Let Murphy, Manquillo, Fernandez, Ritchie go out on loan / perm. I'd even let Wood go if need be, as Sesko is a bigger better younger version

 

Then you would have a 25 man squad of (bold no need to register):

 

Pope (Dubravka, Gillespie/Darlow)

Trippier (Krafth, Manquillo) Schar (Lascelles) Botman (Burn) Targett (Lewis, Dummett)

Bruno (Shelvey) Joelinton (Longstaff)

ASM (Fraser) Pacqueta (Willock, Anderson) Kamaldeen (Almiron)

Wilson (Sesko, Wood) 

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Nine

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Paqueta is just a pipe dream for this window, there hasn’t been any concrete links on him or any noise that we really want to sign him. Bruno and his insta posts really set this off :lol:

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During an interview on Sky this morning, Edu said that Arsenal have been lining up Zinchenko for around six months. 

 

The idea Edwards, Wilson and others are trying to peddle that we're frantically scrambling around for players that fit the profile we're looking for is total nonsense.

 

Targets will have been identified, enquiries made and contract situations assessed weeks, if not months in advance of the window opening. 

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8 minutes ago, Nine said:

Paqueta is just a pipe dream for this window, there hasn’t been any concrete links on him or any noise that we really want to sign him. Bruno and his insta posts really set this off :lol:

I'd say what set it off were the stories that we actually went for him before Bruno in January and a deal was set but he didn't want to come because of our position at that time. Now, I don't know how true that is but it's what set stuff off, the Brunos best mate stuff just built on it.

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2 minutes ago, McCormick said:

@The ProphetSee your point, but 6 months ago we didn’t know if we would still be in the Premier League this season.

 

 

 

 

The club were talking to Botman and Ekitike's encourages in that time. It wouldn't suprise me if they had prepped for both eventualities.

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5 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

During an interview on Sky this morning, Edu said that Arsenal have been lining up Zinchenko for around six months. 

 

The idea Edwards, Wilson and others are trying to peddle that we're frantically scrambling around for players that fit the profile we're looking for is total nonsense.

 

Targets will have been identified, enquiries made and contract situations assessed weeks, if not months in advance of the window opening. 

and Jesus taking seven months, plus Raphinha talking to Barca for ages beforehand. Transfers occurring within a day or two or even a week is just nonsense. 

 

Asked whether they had tracked Jesus for a long time: "For sure. This process really, I think, takes like seven months in terms of understanding each other and talking to each other, because also he has a lot of other opportunities and then he chooses because he understands who we are."
 

"People think we went in too deep about Raphinha, because Raphinha was everywhere.


It's fair we did have some conversations with Deco because Deco is his agent and I have a good relationship [with him] - we are friends.

"I just said to Deco, 'Can you explain to me the situation with Raphinha?' and he was clear, 'Edu, we have a good relationship but I'm not going to lie to you, his idea is to go to Barcelona because he's dreaming to go to Barcelona, and we've been talking to Barcelona since a long time ago'.

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1 hour ago, The Prophet said:

 

 

Really like Trossard. Guessing he was an Ashworth signing?

 

 

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