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I'd much prefer it if they were honest and came out and said "we're not dealing with Newcastle under any circumstances". At least you could see where they were coming from but to propose a deal so backward and ridiculous that's never going to be made makes them look and sound like utter cunts. Then again that cap fits quite nicely tbh. 

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Considering Watford spent 27 mill on him and he still has 2 years left to run I'd say probably a fair bit more than 15 mill.

 

I think we're all just so used to Ashley that we're completely out of the loop in terms of the market. Daft fees and insane loan fees are the norm now.

 

 

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I know what they’re trying to say. We’re getting (in their opinion) a £50m player if he was under a contract for £15m. Doesn’t work like that though. :lol:

 

Call their bluff. He’ll be away on deadline day when they realise they’ll actually get nowt and it’ll be closer to £4-5m I bet.

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Just now, Lush Vlad said:

He isn’t worth £50m even if he is under contract, surely? 
 

I mean, I think he’d improve us and he was quality at West Ham. But his career numbers and his age hardly scream £50m player. 


Well yeah there’s that too: they’ve overvalued him by at least £10-15m.

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2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Still maintain best solution will be we pay 12 million permanently and give him a release clause 

 

Lingard doesn't want that though.

 

If he moves without a fee in a few months (even if it is to ultimately join us after a loan for now) he gets a massive signing bonus.

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

I know what they’re trying to say. We’re getting (in their opinion) a £50m player if he was under a contract for £15m. Doesn’t work like that though. :lol:

 

Call their bluff. He’ll be away on deadline day when they realise they’ll actually get nowt and it’ll be closer to £4-5m I bet.

This. Just watching The Transfer Show on SSN and they're saying it isn't on as it stands as fell down on financials. Low loan fee initially but loan fee would have been bumped up to £9m-10m. Man Utd pushing it even further. Not completely dead in the water but still a long way apart.

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Just now, KaKa said:

 

Lingard doesn't want that though.

 

If he moves without a fee in a few months time he gets a massive signing bonus.

 

 

yep and he'll have plenty of takers then so why tie yourself down, what I don't get is man utd costing themselves his wages for 5 months and missing out on a reasonable loan fee so get nothing. Now maybe they don't want to do business with us full stop, fair enough but what about other teams surely there must be more takers for him based on his west ham form last season

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15 minutes ago, jdckelly said:

yep and he'll have plenty of takers then so why tie yourself down, what I don't get is man utd costing themselves his wages for 5 months and missing out on a reasonable loan fee so get nothing. Now maybe they don't want to do business with us full stop, fair enough but what about other teams surely there must be more takers for him based on his west ham form last season

 

For Man United the fee will be small change, and so unless they can fleece someone for a significant chunk of money, they won't bother letting him go in Jan.

 

I think we are the only team even willing to give them anything for him in Jan, since we need him right now due to our situation. Everyone else that likes him is just sitting back waiting to get him on a free in the summer.

 

 

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25 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Lingard doesn't want that though.

 

If he moves without a fee in a few months (even if it is to ultimately join us after a loan for now) he gets a massive signing bonus.

 

 

 

 

 

He will by Monday or he sits on the bench 

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1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

He will by Monday or he sits on the bench 

 

Personally, I think he'll sit, as he has been all season already. Another few months and he'll be able to go where he wants and get a sizeable bonus and salary for it too.

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41 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Considering Watford spent 27 mill on him and he still has 2 years left to run I'd say probably a fair bit more than 15 mill.

 

I think we're all just so used to Ashley that we're completely out of the loop in terms of the market. Daft fees and insane loan fees are the norm now.

 

 

 

 

:lol: Is that how much he cost? Fair enough. Was aware it was likely a wild statement. I suppose my point was there is probably better value out there.

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6 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Personally, I think he'll sit, as he has been all season already. Another few months and he'll be able to go where he wants and get a sizeable bonus and salary for it too.

He won't, he'll move once it gets closer to the deadline.  Man United can either pay his wages for the rest of the season and not play him or loan him to us for a fee and we pay his wages.  Any business that is willing to lose out on several million quid plus his wages whatever the size for no particular reason is going to struggle.  Tbf though this is probably why they do struggle and why they won't ever be the force they once where.  They don';t have the right people in place anymore.

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1 minute ago, relámpago blanco said:

He won't, he'll move once it gets closer to the deadline.  Man United can either pay his wages for the rest of the season and not play him or loan him to us for a fee and we pay his wages.  Any business that is willing to lose out on several million quid plus his wages whatever the size for no particular reason is going to struggle.  Tbf though this is probably why they do struggle and why they won't ever be the force they once where.  They don';t have the right people in place anymore.

 

I guess we'll find out soon.

 

Man United are certainly a mess and I think are more likely to hold onto him in some kind of dumb effort to hold us to ransom, and we'll end up going for someone else.

 

 

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