greydos Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, KaKa said: Pretty sure people said it would be a missed opportunity to push on last season if we didn't sign a right winger in the summer. We didn't sign one. In January they then said it would be a missed opportunity to consolidate a top 4 place if we didn't sign a central midfielder. We didn't sign one. They were wrong on both accounts. I said nothing about the first point. The second misrepresents my view on January. I was always clear that there was no need to take a RISK by not signing a midfielder. I said even if we make top 4 without signing one (and letting Shelvey go), it’s still a risk of falling away in the Carabao and the league. Now we fell away in one and not the other. Maybe we’d have done better in Carabao with an extra midfielder, maybe not who knows. My view was that the risk wasn’t worth it, not that it was a guaranteed bad move. Edited June 5, 2023 by greydos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 44 minutes ago, KaKa said: Pretty sure people said it would be a missed opportunity to push on last season if we didn't sign a right winger in the summer. We didn't sign one. In January they then said it would be a missed opportunity to consolidate a top 4 place if we didn't sign a central midfielder. We didn't sign one. They were wrong on both accounts. Aye but you didn't, so we're all good, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Look forward to all our other contented players coming out with similar posts. Reckon he’s off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 47 minutes ago, Jaqen said: We had to disrupt the preferred double Joe left side and looked worse for it and Bruno had to play a fair few games through injury. I mean aye we made top 4 in the end but we were clearly suffering due to our lack of depth at CM. It's not like Kaka to completely ignore the actual arguments, deny reality, and take any opportunity to pat himself on the back like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, BonesJones said: Technically he's not wrong though, because if we don't get CL the following season then we have definitely missed this early opportunity of offering CL football, if we haven't got in some players that are only looking at joining a club at that level. We're not an established CL team so best to go for the bigger names now, whilst we know we can offer it, which then further increases our chances of being able to offer it down the line imo. This approach opens up a lot of potential issues down the road if we don’t get top 4 next season though. The players that signed for CL football don’t have it after a season, what do we do? Move them on? Or keep unhappy players that consider a non CL club below their level? It’s just never that simple to say let’s take advantage and sign CL players as a non established CL club, so far it’s one season. I personally don’t think our targets will change much from where they were pre top 4 finish, maybe a tweak here or there but I expect it will be the same trend of steady squad building progress that we have seen developing already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: We moved on from bed wetting crack to missed opportunities now ? I wish people would stop peddling these phrases. They're as tedious as fuck. Edited June 5, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Hanshithispantz said: It's not like Kaka to completely ignore the actual arguments, deny reality, and take any opportunity to pat himself on the back like. Ah, here we go again. Evil KaKa patting himself on the back and being patronising and arrogant right? Last summer and in January people were speaking so matter of factly about how bad things would be if we didn't make those signings, and they complained and complained and complained. No matter how you cut it, it was ultimately all for nowt, as things worked out just fine and they were wrong about it. Just because it didn't work out how you anticipated don't turn that around on me and claim I'm patting myself on the back because I pointed that out. I know you guys get really wound up and find it annoying in these instances when these kinds of things are brought up, but equally it's really annoying to some of us when the incessant complaining and doom mongering is going on too, and so I guess we're all even. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 6 hours ago, andycap said: Surely lavia will be bought back by city. Wait how does this work? If we offer more and he wants to come here can he just say fuck off to City? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Sufi said: Wait how does this work? If we offer more and he wants to come here can he just say fuck off to City? They have first refusal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, andycap said: They have first refusal Reports say this doesn’t kick in until next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, KaKa said: Ah, here we go again. Evil KaKa patting himself on the back and being patronising and arrogant right? Last summer and in January people were speaking so matter of factly about how bad things would be if we didn't make those signings, and they complained and complained and complained. No matter how you cut it, it was ultimately all for nowt, as things worked out just fine and they were wrong about it. Just because it didn't work out how you anticipated don't turn that around on me and claim I'm patting myself on the back because I pointed that out. I know you guys get really wound up and find it annoying in these instances when these kinds of things are brought up, but equally it's really annoying to some of us when the incessant complaining and doom mongering is going on too, and so I guess we're all even. I'm not reading your post because a quick scan shows it's just going to be nauseating, but we're in massive need of reinforcements in centre midfield. We were in January, and we still are. We finished the season with Gordon, Anderson and an injured Bruno there. Literally every one of our central midfielders were injured by the final whistle Edited June 6, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 37 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: I'm not reading your post because a quick scan shows it's just going to be nauseating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viana Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 One thing I would say about Lavia is that I think he's still firmly in the 'project' stage of his career. He has tremendous potential, but I think some much of that future upside rests in the ability to shape him, which itself will require a degree of patience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 From what I’ve seen, I really like the look of Rayan Cherki. Excellent dribbler but only watched him two or three times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) I wish these links to Rayan Cherki had any substance whatsoever. He's a natural fit for "Howeball". High-energy, technically sublime, superb off-the-ball movement, can practically play anywhere across the front six. Cherki, Slobby Dom and Kim Min-Jae would make a solid 180 million worth of purples. Edit: Wow @gbanditjust a minute before my post. Edited June 6, 2023 by Emotic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 You may have seen Cherki more than I have but he never struck me as a “Howe-ball” player. Lacks physicality and I definitely wouldn’t call him “high-energy” either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) He’s a ridiculously talented player but lazy defensively. Wouldn’t mind him like. Edited June 6, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Arda Guler is the one who really impresses me. Would it help that we have Saudi owners, when it comes to attracting players from the Middle East? Do we have a bigger profile in that part of the world now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Hanshithispantz said: I'm not reading your post because a quick scan shows it's just going to be nauseating, but we're in massive need of reinforcements in centre midfield. We were in January, and we still are. We finished the season with Gordon, Anderson and an injured Bruno there. Literally every one of our central midfielders were injured by the final whistle It seems when you lot are moaning continuously and making out Howe or the club don't know what they're doing, that in your minds it plays out as if you are simply pointing out the signings we need to make. Well I assure you it's far more tedious and insufferable, but carry on though, and I'll be sure to keep reminding you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Tedious and insufferable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Just now, Dr.Spaceman said: Tedious and insufferable? Yeah I promise it's going to continue though. I don't see why you should get to have all the fun. I quite like complaining about you complaining. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, KaKa said: Yeah I promise it's going to continue though. I don't see why you should get to have all the fun. I quite like complaining about you complaining. Never complain, never explain. The Royals are not as dumb as they're made out. PS - As Harry will find out when he gets destroyed in the witness box later today. Edited June 6, 2023 by Cronky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Would be awesome if you guys could whack each other in PM’s. we are all in here waiting for @SUPERTOONto supply is with the latest rumours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 minute ago, KaKa said: Yeah I promise it's going to continue though. I don't see why you should get to have all the fun. I quite like complaining about you complaining. I'm not complaining, I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy. You are one of the most narcissistic people I've ever encountered, man, this is entertaining stuff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonFC Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) Its excruciating reading the back and forth shite in here. Just want to read transfer news Edited June 6, 2023 by WinstonFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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