jack j Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Dyer speaks quite highly of the fans up here thesedays Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, James said: Racism isn’t just about abuse, it’s about how we treat players. Still happens today as players like Sterling will attest to. The most common racism today is that many of us are guilty of holding certain players to a higher standard before we accept them and like them. I think some attitudes towards Murphy in particular have been inwardly racist. Course, I know. Just saying I have heard Dyer being abused publicly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Still have a soft spot for Bramble after his thunderbastard against Chelsea back in 2006. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Attitudes towards Murphy weren’t about racism at all imo. He was judged on performances like everyone else. yes he was judged on performances. But despite being at a similar level, he needed to perform better than particular peers (e.g Longstaff and Mitrovic) to be liked the same as them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Just now, James said: yes he was judged on performances. But despite being at a similar level, he needed to perform better than particular peers (e.g Longstaff and Mitrovic) to be liked the same as them. Longstaff???? He still to this day gets more shite than most! I'd say local players thesedays are on a hiding to nothing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Howay, Murphy was absolutely shit for years man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, James said: yes he was judged on performances. But despite being at a similar level, he needed to perform better than particular peers (e.g Longstaff and Mitrovic) to be liked the same as them. Longstaff is a bad example to compare him to, he gets more stick than anyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Just now, jack j said: Longstaff???? He still to this day gets more shite than most! I'd say local players thesedays are on a hiding to nothing yes he does get criticised as he is probably just outside of our 11 best players. fans have however played the ‘loves the club’ card as a reason to support Longstaff and Mitrovic. I’ve rarely seen that card played for Murphy despite the fact that I’ve seen more photos of child Murphy in an NUFC strip than the Longstaffs, Dummett and Mitrovic combined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Longstaff is a bad example to compare him to, he gets more stick than anyone We sure? Reading here you'd think the whole reason we lost 0-3 at Villa was because he wasn't playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 This thread is supposed to be about transfer rumours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonjam88 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Bramble was a decent player but just thick as fuck and also used to go to Greggs to get pasties on the way home from training. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Just now, Mountain said: This thread is supposed to be about transfer rumours. Aye but Newcastle don't do rumours anymore so we've got nowt else to talk about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mountain said: This thread is supposed to be about transfer rumours. But there isn’t any rumours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Tbh it feels like everyone misses Longstaff when he’s not playing and at the same time he gets a shitload of criticism when he plays. For me he’s super important but still lacking in composure and technical ability. The good far outweighs the “bad” though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, clintdempsey said: Tbh it feels like everyone misses Longstaff when he’s not playing and at the same time he gets a shitload of criticism when he plays. For me he’s super important but still lacking in composure and technical ability. The good far outweighs the “bad” though. He is what he is, a decent 5th choice central midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Longstaff went through a major fan transformation last season. Murphy did too to a lesser extent. Don’t think that’s due to race, just down to Longstaff playing more minutes and contributing more in a more pivotal squad role. Murphy only had to prove himself because he’d largely been terrible for us in his entire premier league career. Glad to say he played really well from February I think it was. I think the fans really like Murphy but it’s hard to get behind a player if they miss a ton of chances Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 28 minutes ago, James said: In my opinion there was a lot of casual racism / unconscious bias when it came to both Dyer and Bramble which meant that people saw some issues that weren’t really there. Nothing to do with this stuff then? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18254475.amp https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1314392/amp/Titus-Bramble-brother-arrested-hotel-rape-claims.html https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/sunderland-fine-titus-bramble-following-sexual-assault-charges-6258957.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10842279/amp/Kieron-Dyer-reveals-trauma-falsely-linked-2003-roasting-scandal.html (On Bramble not dyer) People saw him for what he was, a prick. Hopefully he has matured Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobS Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Can all this get taken to another thread? Seen 5 pages of new posts and got excited to read all this shite is a tad depressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 I have a random number in my head as to judge whether something good has happened. If I see '24 new posts' and I haven't looked for about 3 hours I usually think "Nah not enough 70% of those are debates. I needed to see 40+ ffs". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Bramble wasn't rated because of Racism and "unconscious bias".. Amazing! . Nowt to do with the monumental fuck ups every other game of course.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Lots of people defend Bramble fwiw, heard loads say he was never as bad as was made out. Dyer was just unlucky with injuries. Both weren't exactly model pro's off the pitch, so deserve the shite they got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) Football and society in general are a lot more accepting of people like Bowyer, Woodgate and Bellamy than the likes of Bramble and Dyer. Bowyer in particular wasn’t even good for us but got considerably less criticism than Dyer. Even after football. Those lads have all coached at a higher level than a lot of the more heralded black footballers. I remember reading Woodgate was an awful professional. Bowyer and Bellamy have a couple incidents of violence to their name. You can add Barton to that list. Horrible person. Average footballer. Was much more popular than many of his more talented peers. I just know it was Bowyer that bit the man in the cheek in that infamous assault. And all those ‘bling’ nicknames were tinged with racism. There’s that one quote from Klopp about his first interaction with Mane is also heavily tinged in bias. He took one look at him and made several ascertains about his personality without knowing him at all. Edited July 17, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Ryder has been hassling Kvaratskhelia's agent: "His agent, when approached by Chronicle Live yesterday, stayed silent too as did Napoli owner Aurelio De Laurentiis. Yes, he is a player Newcastle have looked at and one Howe would love to sign but the head coach said nothing was close on Saturday". They probably haven't a clue who he is On a side note, it'd be class if the Chronicle site didn't crash your browser once you scroll past the headline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Ryder has been hassling Kvaratskhelia's agent: "His agent, when approached by Chronicle Live yesterday, stayed silent too as did Napoli owner Aurelio De Laurentiis. Yes, he is a player Newcastle have looked at and one Howe would love to sign but the head coach said nothing was close on Saturday". They probably haven't a clue who he is On a side note, it'd be class if the Chronicle site didn't crash your browser once you scroll past the headline. Shocking website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Ryder has been hassling Kvaratskhelia's agent: "His agent, when approached by Chronicle Live yesterday, stayed silent too as did Napoli owner Aurelio De Laurentiis. Yes, he is a player Newcastle have looked at and one Howe would love to sign but the head coach said nothing was close on Saturday". They probably haven't a clue who he is On a side note, it'd be class if the Chronicle site didn't crash your browser once you scroll past the headline. i.e they didn’t take his call Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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