Yoane Wissa

[Toonpack]

6 minutes ago, Tonalis Bookie said:

 

75% wrong but it will come out in time as it always does. He is in the wrong, 100%, undoubtedly. However we could have handled it better

 

What is 75% wrong and what could we have handled better ?? We are lillywhite on Wissa.

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

If you're actively selling an asset the value is what people will pay. If you don't want to sell the value is what the asset is worth to you. 

[Deuce]

8 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

The fact (allegedy) that Amanda offered him a raise with four years left is mental,

Not really, imo. He’s a top 5 striker in the world, and these contracts get amended all the time based on players over-performing. How many years along in his contract would be the appropriate time to offer him a raise?

[Andy]

7 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

What is 75% wrong and what could we have handled better ?? We are lillywhite on Wissa.

 

The actions are factual. 

 

The situations are (for all we know) journalist speculation. 

 

Without all the facts, you can only judge them off their actions. 

[Mikky]

5 minutes ago, Deuce said:

Not really, imo. He’s a top 5 striker in the world, and these contracts get amended all the time based on players over-performing. How many years along in his contract would be the appropriate time to offer him a raise?

I totally agree with this - it’s a reward for performing at such a high level - ideally you want a contract to state “extended his stay by a further 2 year to 20XX” a win win for everyone - rewards player and further protects us and only serves to increase his value 

[Mole]

6 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

The actions are factual. 

 

The situations are (for all we know) journalist speculation. 

 

Without all the facts, you can only judge them off their actions. 

Yeah but the actions are a result of the apparent speculation. Stuff like that will never be actually fully officially confirmed by the club so it's all you have to go on.

 

I just feel like people are very quick to hammer players like Wissa but are very happy to defend management for causing the reaction. He's supposed to be professional but at the same time they can do what they want.

 

I usually wouldn't care but I find the bias towards defending management for shitty actions and then not being okay with players reacting to those actions rather strange personally.

 

The reason Isak is different is because as far as we know he did this without any action from the club to cause it. He just decided to go in for himself because he felt like it, Wissa on the other hand genuinely has a very good case as to why he's upset.

 

The difference in those circumstances matter to me.

[LFEE]

7 minutes ago, Deuce said:

Not really, imo. He’s a top 5 striker in the world, and these contracts get amended all the time based on players over-performing. How many years along in his contract would be the appropriate time to offer him a raise?

The rise wasn’t that simple due to PSR. Also the agent wanted a release clause inserted which meant we lost control of the situation.

 

Ive said it before but if NUFC had of done exactly what was asked by Isak and agent 12 months ago we’d of been worse off now.

 

We’d of paid increased wages to Isak for 12 months and he’d of had a club activate his release clause this summer at a price they would’ve demanded at probably a UK record fee AT that time of £115-125.

 

He may be in a huff at the moment but it’s World Cup year. He’s on a very good contract and we’ve not had to deal with the ripple effect yet a pay rise would’ve caused in the dressing room and we still get to say what the price is which is currently to us £150+m.

[Toonpack]

11 minutes ago, Deuce said:

Not really, imo. He’s a top 5 striker in the world, and these contracts get amended all the time based on players over-performing. How many years along in his contract would be the appropriate time to offer him a raise?

 

Not with 2/3rds of a contract left to run, halfway at earliest or whenever two years left hits. We were also in PSR hole remember.

 

He'd come off a great season but at that time no-one was talking about him as best striker on the planet/in Europe, he was very good but wasn't considered as highly as he is now, because he did it again last season.

[Bimpy474]

32 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Woah woah woah, in the context of being a contracted elite level footballer.

 

Oh look, this Lady is for turning 

[Geordie Magpie]

Surely we either make progress on his next couple of days or look elsewhere, defo need a striker in before Liverpool game be stupid to go anymore games with no senior striker!

[Geordie_once_removed]

Busy day, from a cursory scan it seems the Price for Wissa is now over £50 million is this right? Anything else I missed? I really hoped today would be the day for concrete progress. Can't blame Brentford at all so standing firm.

 

 

Edited August 18, 2025 by Geordie_once_removed

[David Edgar]

He's just changed his Facebook relationship status to "it's complicated."

[LFEE]

With regards to Wissa behaviour the situations are different from the players side but not from the clubs.

 

Any money promised to Isak we now have the PSR headroom to discuss a way forward with a new contract so ultimately getting what was claimed the issue 12 months ago. So ultimately the club has kept its promise once it had its house in order to avoid losing points.

 

Wissa we are lead to believe had gentleman’s agreement he could go for £25m which was indicated to us and why we bid that amount. We’ve even raised our offer it seems to as high as £35m+£5m if reports are to be believed to get it done knowing the player was very keen but had an extra year activatable and our need great for the Villa game. 
 

From the players POV he’s 4 yrs older than Isak and probably his last big move and chance for UCL also. That is not the case with Isak at 25 with 2 big moves left and already having UCL football available to him this season as well as a team being built to compete further as opposed to a team and to a certain extent a club being rebuilt again after losing half its stars, its manager and its footballing analysts etc.

 

Not a fan of either of their behaviour but certainly slightly more justification in Wissa’s if all is true IMO.

 

 

Edited August 18, 2025 by LFEE

[Smal]

proper u ok hun behaviour. He's 28 years old, man . Move on. 

[Toon1984]

32 minutes ago, Deuce said:

Not really, imo. He’s a top 5 striker in the world, and these contracts get amended all the time based on players over-performing. How many years along in his contract would be the appropriate time to offer him a raise?

A raise? Or do you mean a new contract? A raise could be given as part of a new contract but the club would want something too (e.g. a minimum release clause). 

[Tsunami]

Brentford can do what they want but you have to feel they’ve reneged on an agreement with the player. It is different to the Isak situation, we had no agreement to sell, we don’t have a replacement and we’re not asking more than twice market value.

 

We can’t be paying silly money as much as it could hurt us.

 

 

Edited August 18, 2025 by Tsunami

[joeyt]

Having a gentleman's agreement rather than in writing seems daft

[TRon]

15 minutes ago, Geordie Magpie said:

Surely we either make progress on his next couple of days or look elsewhere, defo need a striker in before Liverpool game be stupid to go anymore games with no senior striker!

 

 

We should have already looked somewhere else, that's the issue. We need a replacement for Wilson, regardless of what happens with Isak. even if Isak stays we still have only one striker. Not sure what's going on, but the club appear to be getting led down the garden path again. 

[Deuce]

9 minutes ago, Toon1984 said:

A raise? Or do you mean a new contract? A raise could be given as part of a new contract but the club would want something too (e.g. a minimum release clause). 

what I mean is just “more money”  

[jemo96]

this has to be deader than a dead thing now surely, for fks sake gouge my eyes out 

[Ronaldo]

Clubs know how desperate we are. We’re either not going to sign a striker and be genuinely in the shit or overpay for someone. They’re the options remaining unfortunately.

[Holloway]

60 mill man, we are getting massively mugged off this window. Is there not a south American young hotshot we can gamble on out there ?

[nufc123]

They are totally in their right to do whatever they want, but based on Wissas reaction it seems they have moved the goalpost in terms of a fee

[Menace]

If we wasn't so desperate I'd love to walk away - this bloke sounds like a tosser.

[thomas]

15 minutes ago, Deuce said:

what I mean is just “more money”  

 

Well gosh, what do you even mean by "money"? that's one of the toughest words out there bucko. And you've got to unpack so much there if you want to arrive at any truth.