54 Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 Just now, r0cafella said: I think people should be free to post what they want as long as it's respectful and within the rules. In terms of Sesko, the Norwegian pundit has said he wants Manchester United and Ornstein has said man united are on the case. We've been chucked by them twice already (if you believe the report's) so yeah I think people are ok to be a bit frustrated given how the expectations of this summer are the opposite of how it's going. Well yeah, i'm not saying they shouldn't, people have a right to post what they want, but people have to also realise that the constant "This is terrible, we're terrible, everything is a shambles" after every non-update (which this absolutely was) can be tiring in the extreme, and people are going to get annoyed and frustrated them posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 37 minutes ago, gdm said: The burglars are prepared to break into my house but only if I open the door for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 1 minute ago, LFEE said: I mean… you didn’t all actually think we’d sign Sesko? Tbf I never got the impression anyone on here believed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shearergol Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 Just now, 54 said: Well yeah, i'm not saying they shouldn't, people have a right to post what they want, but people have to also realise that the constant "This is terrible, we're terrible, everything is a shambles" after every non-update (which this absolutely was) can be tiring in the extreme, and people are going to get annoyed and frustrated them posts. They're as annoying as the posts telling people to only judge things once the window closes, I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 What fucking door? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 1 minute ago, 54 said: Well yeah, i'm not saying they shouldn't, people have a right to post what they want, but people have to also realise that the constant "This is terrible, we're terrible, everything is a shambles" after every non-update (which this absolutely was) can be tiring in the extreme, and people are going to get annoyed and frustrated them posts. Fair enough , I respect your point of view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 21 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: It’s incompetence - everyone and their dog knew that several of these players were on the target list for Sky Six clubs. We don’t have the prestige nor the wage structure to attract them - yet we’ve wasted months faffing about. You don’t need to wait for the window to open to negotiate, and you don’t need to submit one bid at a time. The same narrative has surrounded our transfer attempts all summer - it is absolutely ridiculous. In terms of shitter players - what the fuck has our scouting team been doing for the last few years? The players targeted (Pedro, Ekitike, Sesko, Trafford etc) have been linked for YEARS at this point. There’s no-one else out there? I don’t buy it. Other clubs seem to manage to find players. Other clubs find players by shopping in different markets to the cartel clubs. That was what I thought Mitchell had been brought in for. With him and Eales gone, we are left with Howe's team identifying players I presume, and they are finding out that these are deep waters with plenty of sharks prowling. I don't know who's leading the recruitment at the club but we are going to need to be more inventive. Or failing that at least not lose the players we've got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 Just now, TRon said: Other clubs find players by shopping in different markets to the cartel clubs. That was what I thought Mitchell had been brought in for. With him and Eales gone, we are left with Howe's team identifying players I presume, and they are finding out that these are deep waters with plenty of sharks prowling. I don't know who's leading the recruitment at the club but we are going to need to be more inventive. Or failing that at least not lose the players we've got. As I've been saying and is hopefully becoming apparent now. Mitchell lost the power struggle hence he's longer here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayDen Traces Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Menace said: Genuine question, if we're down to our 5th choices, what positivity are people envisioning that I'm not for August? The season starts in just over two weeks. The ‘trust the process’ mantra has been overtaken by events IMO. Still nothing from our owners/executives…. Edited July 30, 2025 by Novocastrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 (edited) Hard not to judge a window now when the brief was: act fast, get our main targets It doesn't need to be 1st September to know that we've already failed the brief and whatever we do now is late and contingency, regardless of whether it all works out in the end. Edited July 30, 2025 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green2025 Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 30 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: Don't get me wrong, this window is looking like an all time stinker, but I don't really see how it can seen as incompetence when we're making moves for players, and only losing out because they're picking other teams. Would you rather us just go for shitter players? People on here said Howe was within his right to get the players he wants. It's his team. But he's clearly not done the groundwork and is out of his depth playing the sporting director. Major signings clubs work on for a year and it's in motion (dialogue) for 6 months. We are having to improvise and we look inept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 It's safe to say out entire season will ride on the Villa result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 Mitchell would appear to be the scape goat on here but the bloke did want us to be tapping markets other than the PL. The reason the transfer window is a shambles is because the "transfer committee" only want PL ready players despite the other way working quite well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 4 minutes ago, Shearergol said: They're as annoying as the posts telling people to only judge things once the window closes, I agree. I mean you literally can't make a judgement on the transfer window until it closes (at the earliest!) It's like (to continue the metaphor) saying "what a terrible defeat this is!" when it's 30 minutes in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 Just now, OverThere said: Mitchell would appear to be the scape goat on here but the bloke did want us to be tapping markets other than the PL. The reason the transfer window is a shambles is because the "transfer committee" only want PL ready players despite the other way working quite well Don't tell people Howe prefers EPL experience though they'll mention signings from 3 years ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 Christopher Vivell is the only reason Man U are interested- used to work at RB. Puts them in the driving seats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: As I've been saying and is hopefully becoming apparent now. Mitchell lost the power struggle hence he's longer here. Yep, and tbf, he might have been doing a shit job, depending on what you believe. But what is clear is that we are in above our heads with our current transfer plans. They just aren't realistic and hence we are failing time and time again. But I maintain, as long as we don't let Isak go without getting a suitable replacement, we can still come out of this ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: Hard not to judge a window now when the brief was: act fast, get our main targets It doesn't need to be 1st September to know that we've already failed the brief and whatever we do now is late and contingency, regardless of whether it all works out in the end. Totally agree and at this point does anyone have any confidence it’ll work out in the end. I’m guessing we’ll get bodies in but not the quality to get top 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Tbf I never got the impression anyone on here believed it. Fair enough. Having a wise bit time off here at moment but from flicking through a few pages of threads I still feel many seem to set themselves up for disappointment when competing against cartel clubs. We’ve no chance. No harm throwing hat in the ring but seemed clear when it drifted a couple of days we’d walked away knowing what was coming. On the bright side that would seem like they have all filled their positions that we are looking at so we might now start seeing some easier recruitment… unless they are after a RCB, midfielder and more forwards Still feel Isak remains for 12 months but its going to rumble ALL window that one. Can’t see him playing against us at SJP this season. We’ll see though… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: Hard not to judge a window now when the brief was: act fast, get our main targets It doesn't need to be 1st September to know that we've already failed the brief and whatever we do now is late and contingency, regardless of whether it all works out in the end. Life doesn’t always go to plan, shit happens. The future of the club doesn’t depend on this window, if we can finish it strong then we’ll be in a good position. If not, it’s going to be a tough season, we’ll all still be here whatever happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Hard not to judge a window now when the brief was: act fast, get our main targets It doesn't need to be 1st September to know that we've already failed the brief and whatever we do now is late and contingency. I think that was the case even before Ekitike and I dont think the transfer window has to be a disaster just because, quite a few, targets have gone elsewhere. My biggest gripe is simple, regardless of the forwards situation and our struggles to get anyone in up front, where is the CB or CM? I dont see any reason why those positions aren't done. If the forward situation was our only issue, id be tempted to give them a pass but not signing a CB and some cover in midfield would be criminal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 2 minutes ago, OverThere said: Mitchell would appear to be the scape goat on here but the bloke did want us to be tapping markets other than the PL. The reason the transfer window is a shambles is because the "transfer committee" only want PL ready players despite the other way working quite well Do they? Sesko? Ekitike? They aren’t PL ready Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 1 minute ago, gdm said: Do they? Sesko? Ekitike? They aren’t PL ready Beg to differ. Both will be playing from the outset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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