Jacob Ramsey

[Ketsbaia]

Joe Willock the Second.

 

 

[wong989]

People saying the criticism of Ramsey is harsh, maybe it is. It’s the recruitment I have a problem with. No other top 6-7 club pays 40 mil for him. Then there’s the fact that we are crying out for a legitimate elite/potentially elite technical 8. Have to think a club with better scouting/decision making could get 2 players for 50 mil who could add more and in near as much time, without the fact this lad has had a rake of injuries already

[Fak]

Just now, Ketsbaia said:

Joe Willock the Second.

 

If it's 2022/23 Joe Willock I'm alright with that. 

[Casey]

1 hour ago, Dr Venkman said:

I don’t know what he’s done to deserve this criticism so early but it’s really, really weird. 

Think him and Ramsdale are the current crop to get pelters inordinate to their performance. By no means been fantastic but done nothing to warrant it.

 

Once they start picking up or we lose another game it'll be Burn or Murph or something. Just the way it goes.

 

 

Edited December 6, 2025 by Casey

[Begbie]

1 hour ago, wong989 said:

People saying the criticism of Ramsey is harsh, maybe it is. It’s the recruitment I have a problem with. No other top 6-7 club pays 40 mil for him. Then there’s the fact that we are crying out for a legitimate elite/potentially elite technical 8. Have to think a club with better scouting/decision making could get 2 players for 50 mil who could add more and in near as much time, without the fact this lad has had a rake of injuries already

The Jacob Ramsey signing was a weird one. His injury record is terrible, think people new he was a mediocre player but hoped for him to kick off, and he has just been below pair. Throwing away 40M on a player consider a talent when we needed like you said an elite player, it just feels like we helped out Villa with their PSR struggle. If its not some kind of we rub you and you rub ours back if we need it kinda deal, then we seriously need to have a look at our recruitment and scouting team, because this was some lazy business. He is 24 and should be in his prime. I really hope Eddie Howe can tur him into an elite asset but im not holding my breath..

[r0cafella]

, Woo what a mixed bag this lad was, he looked rusty to me, first touch was off and I'm pretty sure he was a yard quicker when he was at Villa. The handball was daft but it's par for the course for us at the moment. 

 

One aspect of his game I did appreciate was his ability to find space in the final third. He's got the potential to come good against those who sit in. 

[Sibierski]

11 hours ago, Disco said:

Played fine

Think it’s more for £40m+, 24 years old, you want a bit more then fine if we are to take steps forward as a club.

 

Said in summer the business we did felt more like it assured our floor doesn’t drop too low, like it solidifies us as a top 8 side, but didn’t really help us as a club to push into the 70 points which is needed moving forward. 
 

The December run into late Jan is crucial for players like Ramsey though to fully judge them. Because there’s games every few days so will get plenty of minutes to get into form and show what they can bring differently to the side.

[ExiledGeordie]

1 minute ago, Sibierski said:

Think it’s more for £40m+, 24 years old, you want a bit more then fine if we are to take steps forward as a club.

 

Said in summer the business we did felt more like it assured our floor doesn’t drop too low, like it solidifies us as a top 8 side, but didn’t really help us as a club to push into the 70 points which is needed moving forward. 
 

The December run into late Jan is crucial for players like Ramsey though to fully judge them. Because there’s games every few days so will get plenty of minutes to get into form and show what they can bring differently to the side.

Agree about summer window. Next summer should be about improving the first 11 and improving quality over depth (though we do need depth at full back) 

[STM]

9 hours ago, wong989 said:

People saying the criticism of Ramsey is harsh, maybe it is. It’s the recruitment I have a problem with. No other top 6-7 club pays 40 mil for him. Then there’s the fact that we are crying out for a legitimate elite/potentially elite technical 8. Have to think a club with better scouting/decision making could get 2 players for 50 mil who could add more and in near as much time, without the fact this lad has had a rake of injuries already

 

Hes played like 10 games. 

[Lucky]

I remember him as a completely different player when he was playing against us, strong on the ball and a constant goal threat around the edge of the box.

 

Just seeing none of this now. He looks lightweight, not much pace, zero creativity. Basically a passenger.

 

Think back to when Bruno made his debut, and following games.. we knew we’d gotten a serious upgrade. Was obvious right from the start. Just not seeing it here.

 

You cannot make a case for Ramsey to start ahead of Lewis Miley or Joelinton.

[Chicken Dancer]

I thought he was areet  

 

Turns nice on the ball, he could do with a consistent run of games to get going properly.

 

Agree with what’s been said about recruitment though. An odd signing.

[Smal]

He was ok. 

 

What I would say is that I don't think you can play him an Willock in the same midfield really. Especially in a game where you expect to dominate the ball. Neither have any ability to get involved in build up at all. Our solution seemed to be Tino coming into midfield sometimes, but Tino isn't the best at that tbh. This kind of thing isn't going to help us involve Woltemade more:

 

 

Like, this is very silly. Woltemade's average touches are behind the entire midfield 5:

 

 

Midfield always needs at least two from Tonali, Bruno and Miley as it stands imo. 

[Dr Venkman]

9 hours ago, TRon said:

 

While Elanga has looked a bit clumsy at times, there have been some electric moments where you could see he could win games. With Ramsey I just haven't seen anything that suggests he's a top player. He's a tidy player at the moment, but pretty anonymous mostly. He doesn't look a bad player, just not someone who improves us, so not really sure what the point of the signing. 

I’ve said this countless times on here but not every signing needs to be a ‘top player’. Forget the fee. When you have so many games to play you need a squad of players which can manage all those games. At least some of them aren’t going to be ‘top players’. Some of them just need to be good enough.

[Lotus]

10 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

I’ve said this countless times on here but not every signing needs to be a ‘top player’. Forget the fee. When you have so many games to play you need a squad of players which can manage all those games. At least some of them aren’t going to be ‘top players’. Some of them just need to be good enough.

That’s fair enough I suppose. Not been a critic of Ramsey myself, but it feels like his fee was a ‘bit lumpy’ for someone who is just about good enough to come in for a couple of games here and there. If we’re honest.

As @Heron has pointed out, I’m expecting more from him.

[Dr Venkman]

2 minutes ago, Lotus said:

That’s fair enough I suppose. Not been a critic of Ramsey myself, but it feels like his fee was a ‘bit lumpy’ for someone who is just about good enough to come in for a couple of games here and there. If we’re honest.

As @Heron has pointed out, I’m expecting more from him.

He’ll be better than that, in time.

[Holmesy]

14 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

I’ve said this countless times on here but not every signing needs to be a ‘top player’. Forget the fee. When you have so many games to play you need a squad of players which can manage all those games. At least some of them aren’t going to be ‘top players’. Some of them just need to be good enough.

Forget the fee is difficult to do though, when we could've signed the same player for probably half the fee from the continent, leaving us more budget to sign top players when the opportunity presents itself. This obsession with PL-proven players has bitten us this time - Elanga and Ramsey look average, and although we needed the squad depth, we've probably spent £50-60m more than we needed to purely because of their PL experience. We now have two Joe Willocks and an expensive winger who is worse than the one we had.

[Dr Venkman]

1 minute ago, Holmesy said:

Forget the fee is difficult to do though, when we could've signed the same player for probably half the fee from the continent, leaving us more budget to sign top players when the opportunity presents itself. This obsession with PL-proven players has bitten us this time - Elanga and Ramsey look average, and although we needed the squad depth, we've probably spent £50-60m more than we needed to purely because of their PL experience. We now have two Joe Willocks and an expensive winger who is worse than the one we had.

That’s all assumption and hyperbole. Have a lovely Sunday.

[High Five o]

36 minutes ago, Lucky said:

I remember him as a completely different player when he was playing against us, strong on the ball and a constant goal threat around the edge of the box.

 

Just seeing none of this now. He looks lightweight, not much pace, zero creativity. Basically a passenger.

 

Think back to when Bruno made his debut, and following games.. we knew we’d gotten a serious upgrade. Was obvious right from the start. Just not seeing it here.

 

You cannot make a case for Ramsey to start ahead of Lewis Miley or Joelinton.

When Bruno arrived we compared him to our existing midfielders. So a massive upgrade at the time.

 

Now Ramsey are compared to Bruno/Tonali etc, so the bar is quite a lot higher.

 

Agree Ramsey have not looked very good yet, but I will give him time.

[Lush Vlad]

Thought he was ok. Trying to form new partnerships all across the pitch and we looked a bit clueless for the first 20. Willock and Ramsey were guilty of leaving a lot of space in the channels off the ball. 
 

I thought both were fine after that and stupid handball aside. I don’t get all the criticism aimed at Ramsey. 

[Lenny]

For as unimpressed I was with Ramsey yesterday, he absolutely needs regular minutes to get up to speed before really knowing if he's a fit for us or not, which he will get over the next month or so.

 

Some of the things that he did wrong can be attributed to not being fully in sync with our passages of play yet etc. and some of his passing was sloppy, which you presume/hope he'll iron out with game time.

 

He nearly had an assist, and linked up play reasonably well at times (e.g. he played his part in the Gordon shot that hit the post), so certainly wasn't all negative.

 

The biggest concern is he does look a bit lightweight, and every time he goes down there's concern he's injured. He writhes around like he's dying, and if he's genuinely feeling that level of pain in the moment that he reacts that way, then there's a line of thought that his injuries have fucked his mentality and he doesn't have the desire to ride out the knocks.

 

I really liked what I saw in his first appearance for us, but was less impressed yesterday. He needs more of a sample set to really judge him.

 

Edit - watching the highlights back he was also important in most of our first half chances.

 

 

Edited December 7, 2025 by Lenny

[duo]

Just seen the handball - idiotic 

[Whitley mag]

First time seeing him in the flesh for 90 mins and he offers us nothing new whatsoever. 
 

He’s a squad player and if we’d had Villa’s pants down due to PSR for 25 million fair enough. However, we didn’t and Howe’s preference for PL experience looks seriously flawed this summer.

[Lenny]

Great that you've completely cemented your valuation and assessment of him with such certainty after seeing him once.

[ExiledGeordie]

3 minutes ago, Lenny said:

Great that you've completely cemented your valuation and assessment of him with such certainty after seeing him once.

😂

[St1pe]

2 hours ago, duo said:

Just seen the handball - idiotic 

It just sort of hit him at pace and  he’s reacted in my opinion - the Burnley guy was worse, not sure what he was doing to handball like that. 
 

It just adds to mixed bag he produced all game.