If not Howe, then who?

[Wolfcastle]

1 minute ago, andycap said:

Everyone was slagging mourinho off was just my opinion of him. 

 

The above post wasn't directed at anyone or either side in particular. 

[andycap]

2 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said:

The above post wasn't directed at anyone or either side in particular. 

I know was just putting a reason for my post as a lot love to hop on anything that goes against the grain. 😂 

[Keegans Export]

When was the last time Mourinho improved on the results/league position of the managers that came before and after him? Doesn't seem to have had much impact at all at Roma, Fenerbace or Benfica. Obviously he won the Conference League with Roma.

[andycap]

1 minute ago, Keegans Export said:

When was the last time Mourinho improved on the results/league position of the managers that came before and after him? Doesn't seem to have had much impact at all at Roma, Fenerbace or Benfica. Obviously he won the Conference League with Roma.

Europa wasn't it? 

[andycap]

14 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

When was the last time Mourinho improved on the results/league position of the managers that came before and after him? Doesn't seem to have had much impact at all at Roma, Fenerbace or Benfica. Obviously he won the Conference League with Roma.

No your right just checked. 

[gdm]

Wanting Mourinho is just weird second hand sentimental nonsense. There’s no valid reason he should be the preferred candidate 

[Abacus]

On a completely different note, whenever I read this thread title I'm reminded of Dr Seuss.

[J7]

3 hours ago, SUPERTOON said:

Imagine ruining all our progress under Howe by getting Mourinho in. 

We had been making progress, but that’s stopped. It’s probably been nearly two or three years since any actual progress. We basically need to start again in the summer.

 

 

Edited April 15 by J7

[Fak]

2 minutes ago, J7 said:

We had been making progress, but that’s stopped. It’s probably been nearly two or three years since any actual progress. We basically need to start again in the summer.

 

Literally won a trophy 13 months ago. 

[Kid Icarus]

Just now, Fak said:

 

Literally won a trophy 13 months ago. 

Doesn't count if you can't remember.

[Fak]

Just now, Kid Icarus said:

Doesn't count if you can't remember.

 

Or if you simply don't count winning trophies as progress.

[J7]

3 minutes ago, Fak said:

 

Literally won a trophy 13 months ago. 

Yeah, with a team that was built nearly three years ago. I’m not sure we’ve improved anywhere since signing Tonali and far too many players are getting towards the end. 

 

 

Edited April 15 by J7

[RS]

Nobody would get a better tune out of us. No big names want to come and our scouting network is trash.  The kids teams are fucking rubbish.  Howe maybe needs to bring some fresh coaches in and we need competence behind the scenes.  The answer is to build the foundations, not change the manager. 

 

 

Edited April 15 by RS

[Wallsendmag]

18 minutes ago, RS said:

Nobody would get a better tune out of us. No big names want to come and our scouting network is trash.  The kids teams are fucking rubbish.  Howe maybe needs to bring some fresh coaches in and we need competence behind the scenes.  The answer is to build the foundations, not change the manager. 

 

 

 

 

What if Howe doesn't want to change his coaching team?

[bobbydazzla]

19 minutes ago, RS said:

Nobody would get a better tune out of us. No big names want to come and our scouting network is trash.  The kids teams are fucking rubbish.  Howe maybe needs to bring some fresh coaches in and we need competence behind the scenes.  The answer is to build the foundations, not change the manager. 

 

 

 

How long do you reckon you’re willing to give him before you’d accept that we needed to change ? 

 

Let’s say we’re still making the same shit mistakes on the pitch game after game next season, then when’s the right time to call it a day and get someone new in ? 

 

 

Edited April 15 by bobbydazzla

[sixx]

So conflicted on this. Want nothing more than Howe to succeed here but feels like he’s losing his grasp.

 

Coincides with a general trend in football with the manager’s role shrinking a bit and usually reduced to head coach. Clubs generally seem to be run by committees these days rather than managers. Look at Brentford for instance. Every time a manager leaves they improve at every turn. Chelsea seem to try the same with uhh differing results. It all just seems a lot more complicated these days. Kompany to Bayern seemed bonkers at the time. Not at all right now. Liverpool knocked it out of the park with Slot winning the league on first try. Doesn’t quite look like that at present. It also seems really difficult for managers to stay relevant for more than 10 years in modern football. 
 

In general the big clubs seem to be pivoting to the kind of Brentford setup where who’s the head coach doesn’t really make a huge difference. I’m pretty sure Howe isn’t made for that landscape.

[Jesse Pinkman]

41 minutes ago, RS said:

Nobody would get a better tune out of us. No big names want to come and our scouting network is trash.  The kids teams are fucking rubbish.  Howe maybe needs to bring some fresh coaches in and we need competence behind the scenes.  The answer is to build the foundations, not change the manager. 

 

 

 

Thats a bit of an exaggeration. Plenty managers with different ideas and tactics can take us forward. Howe isn’t the be all and end all. 

 

 

Edited April 15 by Jesse Pinkman

[Chicken Dancer]

The notion that there isn’t a realistic manager in world football that couldn’t get a tune out of our players is a stretch like. There’ll be plenty. 
 

Also every chance Howe has us back up there again next season if afforded the chance. 

[toontownman]

I think there is likely a large portion of the board that has a small part of them that would love to see Mourinho come here and do well. 

 

Its 10 years too late though. 

 

I wouldnt be confident in us moving forward with him in charge and I also wouldnt expect him to last long.

 

[Nucasol]

12 hours ago, Mike said:

 

Jacobs needs his ass beat.

Probably gets it on a regular basis marra.

[Myleftboot]

12 hours ago, andycap said:

Everyone was slagging mourinho off was just my opinion of him. 

 

TBF he does have a canny win ratio wherever he’s been but yes probably 10 years too late.

[St1pe]

10 hours ago, gdm said:

Wanting Mourinho is just weird second hand sentimental nonsense. There’s no valid reason he should be the preferred candidate 

I don’t think we should replace Howe at all and I’m also a bit of a Mou fan but surprised so many people share this opinion. 
 

He’s arguably one of the top 3-5 managers of all time. Won a ridiculous amount of trophies. Even when he hasn’t been successful I can’t think of an example when the following manager has done a better job. Why do so many of the fan base think he’s rubbish? Genuine question. 
 

I know the media did a hatchet job on him doing his Man U tenure and it definitely affected people’s perception of him. The guy knows tactics though and he knows how to win things. 

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, St1pe said:

I don’t think we should replace Howe at all and I’m also a bit of a Mou fan but surprised so many people share this opinion. 
 

He’s arguably one of the top 3-5 managers of all time. Won a ridiculous amount of trophies. Even when he hasn’t been successful I can’t think of an example when the following manager has done a better job. Why do so many of the fan base think he’s rubbish? Genuine question. 
 

I know the media did a hatchet job on him doing his Man U tenure and it definitely affected people’s perception of him. The guy knows tactics though and he knows how to win things. 

Hes controversial, been on a downward trend managerially for sometimes and plays football which is shit to watch. 

 

If he wants SBR translator for a couple of years nobody would want him at all. 

[Menace]

Howe is night and day to Jose. This rumour really needs to stop popping up - the guy is an arsehole.

 

Everywhere he has gone he has kicked up a fuss and fallen out with players months within starting his new role.

 

Howe has never embarrassed us with the media, never thrown the team under the bus, mostly shields his players against the public when they're under pressure

 

This would be a Souness tier appointment should it happen rather than a Rafa appointment 

 

If it's even partially true and the club are considering replacing Howe with Mourinho, we are fucked.

 

 

Edited April 16 by Menace

[Ben]

Mourinho is yesterdays news, there is a chance he could come in and perform well for 18 months, but its the turmoil he'll leave behind that will kills us. 

 

Whatever anyone says about Howe and if he does leave this summer, he'll leave us in a far better shape that what he found us.