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I still can't believe that they didn't even have to answer to the FA on why they played Johnson knowing that he was pleading guilty. A points deduction would be wishful thinking, but its blatantly bringing the game into disrepute and deserved a hefty fine at least.

I find mentioning Johnson to fans who would rather Sunderland stay up promotes quite the moral dilemma.

I'd take him for a season in the Championship

Unfortunately he's off at the end of the year apparently. As for Bloodless, I'd rather try and res Bigirimana, him from 2013 offered way more more than this c***. The bigi that apparently struggles to get a game In league one? See Ben Arfa, not good enough for Hull to being linked with Barca. Unless his leg has fallen off we saw enough of Bigi to know he wouldhold his own in the Championship

Can't decide if I'd prefer a Sunderland draw or loss on Weds. A loss obvioulsy makes it 'more likely' that we stay up as either a draw or loss for them on Sunday and we stay up* A draw only gives us one outcome on Sunday that keeps us up* but gives Sam an excuse to play for a draw, which could increase the liklihood of a Watford win - ala us in the 92 play offs * Assumption that we beat Spurs of course

If not Rafa then Temuri. Rather take a chance on him then going for a Bruce/Harry/Warnock type

I think he'll be off in the summer. There will be a few bottom half clubs who will see him as an experienced head in that level of team. (please)

Draw on Wednesday then Sunderland lose to Watford. We draw 0-0 on Saturday. Its the Newcastle way

We lose one of Norwich or Sunderland from our thinking after Saturday I reckon

Everything has aligned for them perfectly this season, right up to needing a low points total to win the league. History shows that its harder for a club to get top 4 for a second season running, not sure if Spurs have done so now but a few years ago the list of those who had managed it were: Manu, Arsenal, City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Newcastle - and we did it before new money became a factor. Leicester will do well to pick up a couple of wins in Europe and finish top of the bottom half in the Premier League next season. Same goes for Spurs, they've finished second when a low points tally would have won the league in a year when none of the main challengers had a good year. In reality they will need 3 more wins next year to stand still, with increased competiition from Liverpool, Chelsea, City etc. Could be as good as it gets for them for a few years

84 page match thread lol

4 years ago

We beat Palace and Villa we beat Spurs imo, I'd be nervous if we don't get 6 from the next 2 though

The thing is that the jury has spent over 2 years listening to argument and evidence and have decided unanimously that the fans weren't to blame. There will have been fans who'd had a drink or didn't have a tickets but they'll be few in number. The police have drummed this lie from the off and despite this verdict there is still a doubt for some about where all the blame lies. I'm more than happy that the jury has got it right. I was at Newcastle away games twice in 1985 at Hillsborough, the approach to that end was a bottle neck and once in it was cattle run up that tunnel and you couldn't see the terrace beyond, you had no idea how full it was. The 2nd game was on a Boxing Day and a policeman got hold of me accusing me of being drunk. I hadn't had a single drink, we'd come by car and as was normal we'd been stopped as we left the motorway and the police had escorted a number of cars in at a time, telling you where to park. Hillsborough was a great day out but that end of the ground was a constant problem. It's time for the truth to be shouted and for previous lies to be acknowledged and condemned. I dont disagree with that at all, I just think that everyone has a responsibility to assess how we as a nation act around big events to make sure any possibility of future tragedies are minimised - this is regardless of the rightful balme being placed squarely on the authorities here Alcohol, jumping turnstiles, fighting in public before hand etc etc. Absolutely the actions of a small minority but has a huge impact on the safety and enjoyment of the majority

(1) Delighted that those responsible for maintaining crowd safety that day who ultimately caused the tragedy now are being held accountable. Any cover up was despicable and anyone who used it for personal or professional gain should also be brought to account. (2) I'm not comfortable that the behaviour of the crowd has been completely discounted though, you get 50,000+ people in an environment like a semi final then it only takes a small minority to be overly intoxicated and/or acting in a poor manner to create the possibility of a similar scenario where somebody then has to make a decision on how to handle the crowd - another poor decision could not be ruled out here. I guess what I'm saying is although we've come a long way since the 80's, there is still a potentially unhealthy relationship between big sporting events and behaviour. Unless we continue to look at ourselves as fans (and people) and continue to work on this as a whole population then we are running a risk. Discounting any blame from behaviour will check this progress. Overall though, really pleased with the ruling and the thorough dilignece and process that has been taken to get here.

I'm going with us winning 3 games in this scenario - including a thumping win on Saturday. If we get the 9 points and stay up, would people prefer Sunderland or Palace to go down with Norwich and Villa? I can see Palace losing the next 4 with the cup final on the horizon which would bring us level on points. a few 2/3 wins wins for us and losses for them could bring the goal differences in line so its not cmopletely outside the realms of possibility that we can catch them.

You let yours out?

And that's something to be proud about?

If they are getting rid of Flores and his replacement is available now then it makes perfect sense to give him 3 games or so to suss out the players. Getting rid of Flores is the mental bit

Beat Palace 6 nil, Villa 2 nil and Spurs 1 nil, Palace lose their remaining 3 games and we send the buggers down!

I can see the dog botherers beating Everton but not sure that they'll get a point against Stoke. If they need to beat Watford to finish above us then they wont

So it's Wullie wasting the club's cash then?

yes - and then held onto his insurance details for a little too long

I just appreciated that he was blowing out of his arse after 80 minutes on Tuesday, and not from being unfit

How fucking dare you. Read my posts carefully. At no point have I mentioned males or females. In case you hadn't noticed, rape can work both ways. Also, note that when I have used the term 'cry rape', I have done so in inverted commas (as in they are not my words) and I certainly haven't said that the complaint in the case in hand 'cried rape'. Your faux-rage is typical of those who don't really understand what is being debated, so you just take the safe option and join the braying mob. I have only been speaking objectively, and certainly haven't suggested anything like 'all women are liars' or whatever you are implying. Simply wanting rape cases to be handled in an objective fashion, with anonymity until proven guilty for all does not make me some sort of sexist pig. I would normally be polite, but since you started it, you can go and fuck yourself, and take your false, fashionably offended atitude with you. How dare you try and play the sexist card at me, just because you don't agree with what I have said. Technically women can't rape a man (or indeeed another woman)