AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Don't think you can help being slightly interested in what will happen. When I initially reacted to McClaren I assumed he would have Carver and Stone as his coaching staff, so that's a lot better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 @dpcoverdale Steve McClaren will bring with him Paul Simpson but not Steve Round or Eric Steele. No Lee Clark either. Andy Woodman stays for now. That barebones coaching set up to remain I see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Steve Round will be appointed according to Mark Douglas in tomorrows Journal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Steve Round will be appointed according to Mark Douglas in tomorrows Journal. Doesn't say that. Merely that he's 'in the frame'. Edit: doh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 "Set to include". My English isn't the best, but for me that sounds like he will be appointed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Staff 'set to include' him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Wasn't Round here under Allardyce? Not that it means much like, just glad Carver isn't here anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Btw that Simpson wasn't sacked by Derby, so we'll have to pay for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 What is McClaren's favoured formation? I'm never arsed about England so don't remember when he was there and didnt see any Twente or Derby (or whatever else was in between) http://www.football-lineups.com/coach/162/ Boro: 4-4-2 England: 4-4-2 Twente: 4-3-3 Wolfsburg: mostly 4-3-2-1 Forest: tried everything Twente again: 4-3-3 Derby first season: 4-3-3 Derby last season: 4-1-4-1 Not a fan of 4-1-4-1 at all, and I've got a feeling that those 4-3-3 mostly tended to be 4-5-1 in reality, which usually happens. I could very well be talking out of my arse here of course, but just a feeling I've got. Obviously those numbers amounts to very little if your players are coached to make runs and play like they've seen each other before, which hasn't happened here for a good few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Carver and Stone was a good move. Better moves once appointed should be getting rid of Gouffran, Obertan, Willo, Riv & Saylor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 What is McClaren's favoured formation? I'm never arsed about England so don't remember when he was there and didnt see any Twente or Derby (or whatever else was in between) http://www.football-lineups.com/coach/162/ Boro: 4-4-2 England: 4-4-2 Twente: 4-3-3 Wolfsburg: mostly 4-3-2-1 Forest: tried everything Twente again: 4-3-3 Derby first season: 4-3-3 Derby last season: 4-1-4-1 Not a fan of 4-1-4-1 at all, and I've got a feeling that those 4-3-3 mostly tended to be 4-5-1 in reality, which usually happens. I could very well be talking out of my arse here of course, but just a feeling I've got. Obviously those numbers amounts to very little if your players are coached to make runs and play like they've seen each other before, which hasn't happened here for a good few years. Tbh it depends on the players we have, Arsenal use 4-1-4-1 and it's been quite effective for them and i'd say that for anyone depending on the players and the style of play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 That 4-1-4-1 was pretty much much two proper wingers though wasn't it? Ibe first half a season, Ince the second...no idea who plays the other side, but it was more attack than midfield in the way most teams operate now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Russell played the other side I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Man, I feel a lot better about supporting NUFC now than I did a week or so back. Baby steps, but steps in the right direction nonetheless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Man, I feel a lot better about supporting NUFC now than I did a week or so back. Baby steps, but steps in the right direction nonetheless. Yep, my feelings exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 While I am a bit of a tactics nerd I always find formations talk slightly deceptive, I have seen incredibly negative 4-1-4-1s and very positive ones (poyet's compared to wengers), same with 4-3-3 and 4-4-2s. it depends more on the tasks of the players out there (usually how many of them, especially the wingers are actually there to commit to attacks). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Man, I feel a lot better about supporting NUFC now than I did a week or so back. Baby steps, but steps in the right direction nonetheless. Aye, this is pretty much me too. I'm sick of hating everything to do with the club and I want it to work so I can start to go back to how I was regarding the club. Being negative as fuck is starting to wear pretty thin and I just want to start enjoying NUFC again, McClaren's not who wanted but he's got it now so I'll just wait and see how it goes for a year. Binning Carver and Stone is a biggie for me, a bit of investment in 5 or 6 quality players would help and if he's as good a coach as I've heard then it augurs well. I want it to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Wednesday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hog Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Carver and Stone was a good move. Better moves once appointed should be getting rid of Gouffran, Obertan, Willo, Riv & Saylor. I'll never understand this sort of outlook, unless you mean getting rid of them over time. I mean the team is already thin, as much as the players you've listed are indeed pants we still need a 'squad' of players and I can't imagine we're likely to see any massive influx anytime soon. That aside though, I hope you're right that Shuper-Mac does make better choices with the teams he picks from what we have available - it's not like he'll have much say in who we'll buy, that's for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Wednesday? Aye. As in the day of the week. So tomorrow. June 10th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Wednesday? Aye. As in the day of the week. So tomorrow. June 10th. Bravo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Wednesday? Aye. As in the day of the week. So tomorrow. June 10th. Bravo Just keeping you right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Man, I feel a lot better about supporting NUFC now than I did a week or so back. Baby steps, but steps in the right direction nonetheless. Aye, this is pretty much me too. I'm sick of hating everything to do with the club and I want it to work so I can start to go back to how I was regarding the club. Being negative as fuck is starting to wear pretty thin and I just want to start enjoying NUFC again, McClaren's not who wanted but he's got it now so I'll just wait and see how it goes for a year. Binning Carver and Stone is a biggie for me, a bit of investment in 5 or 6 quality players would help and if he's as good a coach as I've heard then it augurs well. I want it to work. This is pretty much my look on the whole thing, willing to give him time, and getting rid of Carver is a good start. If next season we finish in the top 10 and have a good run in the cup, and play some decent non hoofball football and there are signs of progression, I will be happy, thats all I want after 4 years of shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 What is McClaren's favoured formation? I'm never arsed about England so don't remember when he was there and didnt see any Twente or Derby (or whatever else was in between) http://www.football-lineups.com/coach/162/ Boro: 4-4-2 England: 4-4-2 Twente: 4-3-3 Wolfsburg: mostly 4-3-2-1 Forest: tried everything Twente again: 4-3-3 Derby first season: 4-3-3 Derby last season: 4-1-4-1 I'm looking forward to the 3-5-2 we'll be playing this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillClinton Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 What is McClaren's favoured formation? I'm never arsed about England so don't remember when he was there and didnt see any Twente or Derby (or whatever else was in between) http://www.football-lineups.com/coach/162/ Boro: 4-4-2 England: 4-4-2 Twente: 4-3-3 Wolfsburg: mostly 4-3-2-1 Forest: tried everything Twente again: 4-3-3 Derby first season: 4-3-3 Derby last season: 4-1-4-1 I'm looking forward to the 3-5-2 we'll be playing this season. Now we just need to sign 3 center-backs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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