Steve McClaren

[Guest reefatoon]

Too early to change my name to Rafatoon?

[B-more Mag]

Fuck rumors of change. We've gotten direct promises of change before, and we've seen what that comes to. This regime will never change for the better in any material way.

[r0cafella]

Did Rafas right hand man not just go to Valencia ?

They haven't worked with each other since his Liverpool days I think?

[Shush]

Dreaming of Rafa tonight. Apart from the second Keegan stint we've had nothing but below average to terrible managers. I'd start to fall in love with the club again if we pushed the boat out and landed Benitez.

[Guest chopey]

I wonder if he was the horse Mike was talking about

[B-more Mag]

Dreaming of Rafa tonight. Apart from the second Keegan stint we've had nothing but below average to terrible managers. I'd start to fall in love with the club again if we pushed the boat out and landed Benitez.

 

Don't do this to yourself.

[Mike]

The Guardian article a few pages back was hugely encouraging. It intimated that there is an acceptance that the structure is not allowing the managers to succeed.

 

If this is true and they are willing to overhaul that going forward, as the article suggests, then approaching a higher calibre manager like Rafa is more likely than it would have previously been. In fact that article even states that Mike will only sanction a manager that is a clear upgrade on McClaren, and so the likes of Pearson and Redknapp have not been considered.

 

Last of all the article hinted at them wanting a manager with more international experience due to the international make up of our squad, as they think this will help in bringing the team together better.

 

All very encouraging. Let's hope the article is on the ball.

 

 

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[BONTEMPI]

The Guardian article a few pages back was hugely encouraging. It intimated that there is an acceptance that the structure is not allowing the managers to succeed.

 

If this is true and they are willing to overhaul that going forward, as the article suggests, then approaching a higher calibre manager like Rafa is more likely than it would have previously been. In fact that article even states that Mike will only sanction a manager that is a clear upgrade on McClaren, and so the likes of Pearson and Redknapp have not been considered.

 

Last of all the article hinted at them wanting a manager with more international experience due to the international make up of our squad, as they think this will help in bringing the team together better.

 

All very encouraging. Let's hope the article is on the ball.

 

Kaka. Look in the mirror and repeat that to yourself, and if you laugh you'll have the true answer.

[Figures 1-0 Football]

Remember last January when we were dreaming of the possibility of de Boer, or the unknown Garde or even maybe Tuchel... then we ended up with Carver for 6 months followed by McClaren.

 

Well it is happening all over again.

 

1. They wont sack Schteve

2. We wont get Rafa

[Guest Gomez]

Apart from Robson, we haven't hired a maanger of genuine pedigree in my lifetime. Even Keegan was coming into his first job. Rafa would make a nice change.

 

Who am I kidding? McC's probably distracted Charnley with osme magic beans and convinced him he can get us out of this.

[sbnufc]

It's taking so long cause they want Rafa and it's taking time.  100%.

[Superior Acuña]

Apart from Robson, we haven't hired a maanger of genuine pedigree in my lifetime. Even Keegan was coming into his first job. Rafa would make a nice change.

 

Who am I kidding? McC's probably distracted Charnley with osme magic beans and convinced him he can get us out of this.

 

Dalglish.

[Dave]

I've changed my mind, anyway. I do think they are considering their options, otherwise something would have got out by now - officially or more likely via the local journalists and/or 'media partners' stating that they have full confidence in McClaren turning things around. They clearly have doubts about that.

 

That said, if they do decide to bin him (and I'll still be surprised if they do) I fully expect the replacement to be the lowest rent option. Sherwood, Pearson, Redknapp, Sanchez or similar. It absolutely will not be someone of the calibre of Benitez. Even if they miraculously decided someone like that was suddenly worthy of investment, I simply cannot see what attraction there would be. We don't offer full control (we employ coaches, not managers), we don't offer good wages, we don't have a good squad and the facilities are pathetic by modern standards. Most important of all we're in a downward spiral and heading for relegation. Nobody of any repute would touch us with a shitty stick, and rightly so.

[Ronaldo]

Apart from Robson, we haven't hired a maanger of genuine pedigree in my lifetime. Even Keegan was coming into his first job. Rafa would make a nice change.

 

Who am I kidding? McC's probably distracted Charnley with osme magic beans and convinced him he can get us out of this.

 

Dalglish.

 

Yep. Whatever you thought about his time here he did great things at Liverpool and Blackburn.

[Ashley17]

I've changed my mind, anyway. I do think they are considering their options, otherwise something would have got out by now - officially or more likely via the local journalists and/or 'media partners' stating that they have full confidence in McClaren turning things around. They clearly have doubts about that.

 

That said, if they do decide to bin him (and I'll still be surprised if they do) I fully expect the replacement to be the lowest rent option. Sherwood, Pearson, Redknapp, Sanchez or similar. It absolutely will not be someone of the calibre of Benitez. Even if they miraculously decided someone like that was suddenly worthy of investment, I simply cannot see what attraction there would be. We don't offer full control (we employ coaches, not managers), we don't offer good wages, we don't have a good squad and the facilities are pathetic by modern standards. Most important of all we're in a downward spiral and heading for relegation. Nobody of any repute would touch us with a shitty stick, and rightly so.

 

For 10 games, none of that matters. No players to sign, no politics, and a bag full of cash. That's all Ashley will be banking on, then we'll appoint some dogegg in the summer depending on which division we are in.

[SEMTEX]

McClaren to take DoF role, allowing the dream team of up and coming co-headcoaches Joey K and Jonny C to take the reins.

[Dave]

I've changed my mind, anyway. I do think they are considering their options, otherwise something would have got out by now - officially or more likely via the local journalists and/or 'media partners' stating that they have full confidence in McClaren turning things around. They clearly have doubts about that.

 

That said, if they do decide to bin him (and I'll still be surprised if they do) I fully expect the replacement to be the lowest rent option. Sherwood, Pearson, Redknapp, Sanchez or similar. It absolutely will not be someone of the calibre of Benitez. Even if they miraculously decided someone like that was suddenly worthy of investment, I simply cannot see what attraction there would be. We don't offer full control (we employ coaches, not managers), we don't offer good wages, we don't have a good squad and the facilities are pathetic by modern standards. Most important of all we're in a downward spiral and heading for relegation. Nobody of any repute would touch us with a shitty stick, and rightly so.

 

For 10 games, none of that matters. No players to sign, no politics, and a bag full of cash. That's all Ashley will be banking on, then we'll appoint some dogegg in the summer depending on which division we are in.

 

I don't believe they'd offer a bag full of cash, and to think there would be no politics is wishful thinking of the highest order.

[Dave]

Let's also not forget that the people spinning this particular yarn have vested interests in keeping us lot on the hook. Clicking on Daily Mail website links, gambling on next manager to leave and arrive via Sky Bet and so on.

[Ashley17]

I've changed my mind, anyway. I do think they are considering their options, otherwise something would have got out by now - officially or more likely via the local journalists and/or 'media partners' stating that they have full confidence in McClaren turning things around. They clearly have doubts about that.

 

That said, if they do decide to bin him (and I'll still be surprised if they do) I fully expect the replacement to be the lowest rent option. Sherwood, Pearson, Redknapp, Sanchez or similar. It absolutely will not be someone of the calibre of Benitez. Even if they miraculously decided someone like that was suddenly worthy of investment, I simply cannot see what attraction there would be. We don't offer full control (we employ coaches, not managers), we don't offer good wages, we don't have a good squad and the facilities are pathetic by modern standards. Most important of all we're in a downward spiral and heading for relegation. Nobody of any repute would touch us with a shitty stick, and rightly so.

 

For 10 games, none of that matters. No players to sign, no politics, and a bag full of cash. That's all Ashley will be banking on, then we'll appoint some dogegg in the summer depending on which division we are in.

 

I don't believe they'd offer a bag full of cash, and to think there would be no politics is wishful thinking of the highest order.

 

You don't think they'll offer whoever it is mega-money as a bonus for keeping us up? Ashley loves a bonus, and considering he'd stand to pocket £125m just for finishing last next season if we stay up, it is a drop in the ocean. The very fact they're deviating away from the plan shows Ashley is panicked about missing out on next season's windfall, I just think, perhaps naively, that he'll throw his usual principles out of the window if it means getting his hands on the cash next season

[sbnufc]

[Dave]

I've changed my mind, anyway. I do think they are considering their options, otherwise something would have got out by now - officially or more likely via the local journalists and/or 'media partners' stating that they have full confidence in McClaren turning things around. They clearly have doubts about that.

 

That said, if they do decide to bin him (and I'll still be surprised if they do) I fully expect the replacement to be the lowest rent option. Sherwood, Pearson, Redknapp, Sanchez or similar. It absolutely will not be someone of the calibre of Benitez. Even if they miraculously decided someone like that was suddenly worthy of investment, I simply cannot see what attraction there would be. We don't offer full control (we employ coaches, not managers), we don't offer good wages, we don't have a good squad and the facilities are pathetic by modern standards. Most important of all we're in a downward spiral and heading for relegation. Nobody of any repute would touch us with a shitty stick, and rightly so.

 

For 10 games, none of that matters. No players to sign, no politics, and a bag full of cash. That's all Ashley will be banking on, then we'll appoint some dogegg in the summer depending on which division we are in.

 

I don't believe they'd offer a bag full of cash, and to think there would be no politics is wishful thinking of the highest order.

 

You don't think they'll offer whoever it is mega-money as a bonus for keeping us up? Ashley loves a bonus, and considering he'd stand to pocket £125m just for finishing last next season if we stay up, it is a drop in the ocean. The very fact they're deviating away from the plan shows Ashley is panicked about missing out on next season's windfall, I just think, perhaps naively, that he'll throw his usual principles out of the window if it means getting his hands on the cash next season

 

If it were as simple as that, we'd have done it ages ago. Why fuck about letting the risk get bigger and bigger? We've been down the bottom of the league for months.

[mrmojorisin75]

Any slim hope I have is in the fact that Charnley's last two decisions have been fucking shockers, utterly diabolical to incredible levels. I find it impossibly hard to believe Ashley let's him make this call given what's at stake.

[High Five o]

Craig Hope is getting a sweet Q2 bonus with the amount of clicks he has generated today like[emoji38]

[Ashley17]

I've changed my mind, anyway. I do think they are considering their options, otherwise something would have got out by now - officially or more likely via the local journalists and/or 'media partners' stating that they have full confidence in McClaren turning things around. They clearly have doubts about that.

 

That said, if they do decide to bin him (and I'll still be surprised if they do) I fully expect the replacement to be the lowest rent option. Sherwood, Pearson, Redknapp, Sanchez or similar. It absolutely will not be someone of the calibre of Benitez. Even if they miraculously decided someone like that was suddenly worthy of investment, I simply cannot see what attraction there would be. We don't offer full control (we employ coaches, not managers), we don't offer good wages, we don't have a good squad and the facilities are pathetic by modern standards. Most important of all we're in a downward spiral and heading for relegation. Nobody of any repute would touch us with a shitty stick, and rightly so.

 

For 10 games, none of that matters. No players to sign, no politics, and a bag full of cash. That's all Ashley will be banking on, then we'll appoint some dogegg in the summer depending on which division we are in.

 

I don't believe they'd offer a bag full of cash, and to think there would be no politics is wishful thinking of the highest order.

 

You don't think they'll offer whoever it is mega-money as a bonus for keeping us up? Ashley loves a bonus, and considering he'd stand to pocket £125m just for finishing last next season if we stay up, it is a drop in the ocean. The very fact they're deviating away from the plan shows Ashley is panicked about missing out on next season's windfall, I just think, perhaps naively, that he'll throw his usual principles out of the window if it means getting his hands on the cash next season

 

If it were as simple as that, we'd have done it ages ago. Why fuck about letting the risk get bigger and bigger? We've been down the bottom of the league for months.

 

Because they don't like to admit they got it wrong? Seemingly some of them still don't, if the stories are to be believed about a couple of people not wanting to sack him. There's a number of other reasons they might have waited - up until about 2 weeks ago it was 3 from about 7 teams, which is now down to 4, realistically. The various stories of unrest could also have triggered Ashley's interest, or maybe he just witnessed how shit we were on Saturday and thought fuck this.

[Parky]

This is the first real endgame of the Ashley reign. Absolutely anything could happen.