Optimistic Nut Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 The amount of money you can get for a s*** teenager if they've ever worn a shirt with a liver bird on is staggering. Ibe, Solanke and Brewster, what's that, about £60m? Leicester paid £12m for Danny Ward to be their sub keeper a few years ago too. £9m for Hoever to Wolves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I don’t think he’s racist (might be) but I do question what it is that he felt the lefties and do gooders as he put it, wouldn’t let him say. If you read his quotes back : “People talk about not being allowed to say this or that to them. “I’m not bothered in psychologists or do-gooders or lefties, I don't know what you're allowed to say. “I’m the football manager, so I’m saying it as it is." It’s such a strange quote, I don’t know what it is he felt he couldn’t say, because of “do gooders or lefties”. It’s a cringy PFM comment, no doubt about it. Racist? Massive over reaction to call it that. I can only imagine shouting is a big part of his coaching style and he’s probably took it too far and a player has complained to HR. I mean imagine being shouted at by your boss these days. They’d be utterly fucked and hauled up in HR, but it’s probably almost been accepted in football for decades beyond it’s been accepted in a normal workplace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 He blamed the fact he couldn’t shout at his players (weird) on “lefties, do gooders and psychologists” lol. I’m glad it’s all blown up in his face, one swallow doesn’t make a summer, he’s had one good season (pl) I’m sure he will do just fine in the tinpot leagues again. Also just recently he said he wished he could get rid of a few players they had but they aren’t allowed (contracts) Embarrassing conclusion to form. Oh, he disagrees with the young, 'educated' and middle class? Boo hoo and bless them. f***ing embarrassing. what? I think blaming “lefties” and “do gooders” for your issues (doing good is good). My conclusion is that makes him a nob head. Your reaction is embarrassing. Is it about him being a nob head or being a racist? I agree that he doesn't come across like someone you'd want to have a laugh with! Thinking someone is a racist with hardly any basis to support that notion makes life worse for the people that are trying to fight racism or the people at the receiving end of it. BAME people don't need fuckers jumping on their back with with counter-accusations along the lines of 'you probably think old, white men are racist anyway!' Just fuck off - you're embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I think it's more about him being a bit of a thicko, probably. I think he's simply parroting some things he hears (maybe in the pub or something) not probably understanding what it actually means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 This last page is fucking embarrassing.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I wasn't even the one that called him racist, just that he's a nob. Dinho should learn to read. “Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” It's good advice that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I wasn't even the one that called him racist, just that he's a nob. Dinho should learn to read. Incredible. This place at times, not sure if it makes me crazy or keeps me sane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I wasn't even the one that called him racist, just that he's a nob. Dinho should learn to read. Incredible. This place at times, not sure if it makes me crazy or keeps me sane. You can't fault ManDoon on his poster merits at Newcastle-Online, it's more he's.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 My first post about it was actually addressing the racism claims - and not necessarily at you (so I was just using your post as it mentioned what Wilders had said). By the time I had come back and saw your reply to me, I wasn't realising that I had quoted you originally, I thought I had quoted someone else. But anyway, my error, so my apologies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I wasn't even the one that called him racist, just that he's a nob. Dinho should learn to read. Incredible. This place at times, not sure if it makes me crazy or keeps me sane. You can't fault ManDoon on his poster merits at Newcastle-Online, it's more he's.... I’ve taken all your heat for you Fwiw it was just a bit of hyperbole regarding his weird remarks about leftists and him being someone that "tells it like it is" as it stereotypically are remarks coming from people that are old and racist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Still, unfounded accusations doesn't make it easier for BAME. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I don’t think he’s racist (might be) but I do question what it is that he felt the lefties and do gooders as he put it, wouldn’t let him say. If you read his quotes back : “People talk about not being allowed to say this or that to them. “I’m not bothered in psychologists or do-gooders or lefties, I don't know what you're allowed to say. “I’m the football manager, so I’m saying it as it is." It’s such a strange quote, I don’t know what it is he felt he couldn’t say, because of “do gooders or lefties”. I think people on the left should be far more open minded to the possibility that many people are simply ignorant when they say stuff, and aren't saying them with hurtful intent. I can't imagine many people that has been involved with professional football their whole life has paid much attention to identity politics. This is as much speculation on my part as the racist claims from Kaiz, but Wilder has, in top football terms at least, lived fairly much under the radar from media and social media. I suspect that comment could be because he's been picked up on some things he's said that may have been offensive to someone, without necessarily knowing that is was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Seriously, who gives a shit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I don’t think he’s racist (might be) but I do question what it is that he felt the lefties and do gooders as he put it, wouldn’t let him say. If you read his quotes back : “People talk about not being allowed to say this or that to them. “I’m not bothered in psychologists or do-gooders or lefties, I don't know what you're allowed to say. “I’m the football manager, so I’m saying it as it is." It’s such a strange quote, I don’t know what it is he felt he couldn’t say, because of “do gooders or lefties”. If the cap fits... Seems something he’s said has riled you up at some point, as every time I’ve seen Wilder’s name crop up on this forum for last month or so, there has been a post quickly followed from you usually moaning at him with a post containing the term ‘lefty’ or ‘lefties’. Personally, I think Wilder’s been a credit to Sheffield United. League 1 to 9th in Prem was it? The overlapping full backs stuff foxed many a Championship and top PL manager. First half of this season Sheff U were never out played, and playing us showed that. Wish the bloke all the best. Think he’ll struggle to go straight back in at PL with a job, but I see no shame in having a couple of jobs in Championship over next 5 years or so and possibly not getting it right. After all he was at Northampton not long ago, and no bugger knew him. Ryan Cresswell podcast on Undr Cosh maybe early 2018 (17/18 season), he played for him in League 2, winning the title at Northampton- said Wilder was another level down in L2 and would manage in Premier League. If he turned up here next season, ehh undecided ask me what division? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I think it's pretty clear what he meant. Bullying, or banter, has always been part and parcel of football. Not the nicest part, let's be honest, but if a player can't stand having the piss taken by his own boss/teammates, then he's going to struggle in front of 40k of the opposition. Was just watching a video of Michael Bridges talking about the level of shit you have to put up with as a pro, and they all made it seem like it was as right as morning dew. I'm guessing he's had to tone it down a little. He does specify [in one of the quotes] that the problem is he doesn't know what he's allowed to say. This implies he is consciously trying not to be a dick, which naturally has an impact on the fluidity of his interactions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Big Nigel Adkins back in the game. Will please his fanclub. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Big Nigel Adkins back in the game. Will please his fanclub. Pleased for him, top chap. He always made a lot of time to stop and chat when he was at Scunthorpe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Always seemed a decent enough bloke and competent at his job. Unlike some who could be named. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Alex Neil left Preston Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Alex Neil left Preston Idiots do they not realise they have to pay him off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 If Bruce had walked a month or so ago that’d have been a cushy little number for him like the Sheff Wed job he walked away from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Celtic in talks with howe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Will be good to put that one to bed anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Phil Brown back as Southend United manager after they sack Mark Molesley. Strange timing like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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