colinmk Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Southampton are another of those good teams that are greater than the sum of their parts largely thanks to a clearly defined style of play. Unlike us. Agree with that, I was thinking that Pardew had finally been making a bit of progress with that this season but it's hard to say really. it's not hard to say at all. Of course we've made progress. What would you define as our main style of play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Southampton are another of those good teams that are greater than the sum of their parts largely thanks to a clearly defined style of play. Unlike us. Agree with that, I was thinking that Pardew had finally been making a bit of progress with that this season but it's hard to say really. it's not hard to say at all. Of course we've made progress. What would you define as our main style of play? We are a strong physical side. We notably try and keep the ball more in general than any other time pardew has been here. We are lacking ideas around the box and for me that's why you need to get hba in the team. There's been clear improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Southampton are another of those good teams that are greater than the sum of their parts largely thanks to a clearly defined style of play. Unlike us. They mainly hoofed it yesterday. Righto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Southampton are another of those good teams that are greater than the sum of their parts largely thanks to a clearly defined style of play. Unlike us. They mainly hoofed it yesterday. Righto. While I don't agree that they mainly hoofed it, they certainly weren't against going more direct, which is fine. I think it was VI that said Pochettino's Espanyol didn't really have a defined system for attacking, he had a defensive strategy that revolved around hard work, organisation and good pressing and left the offensive stuff to flair players, like Coutinho. The impression I got yesterday was that they could mix it up and went a bit more direct in the second half, trying to get the most out of Rodriguez's pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Southampton are another of those good teams that are greater than the sum of their parts largely thanks to a clearly defined style of play. Unlike us. They mainly hoofed it yesterday. Righto. They resorted to a bit of hoofball but that's because we were closing them down and stopping them from playing out from the back. More so than I've seen us do for a long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Southampton are another of those good teams that are greater than the sum of their parts largely thanks to a clearly defined style of play. Unlike us. This is basically it. They pass it around without panic and with a well drilled positional sense and intelligence. Pochettino will end up at a big club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Southampton are another of those good teams that are greater than the sum of their parts largely thanks to a clearly defined style of play. Unlike us. They mainly hoofed it yesterday. Righto. Their keeper played it across the floor to the defence pretty much every single time he had the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 You must have been watching a different game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 HAHAHA GOOD ONE! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 The commentator yesterday made a good point on our pressing. It's pointless just Remy going to press as he will be passed around. If your going to press high it has to be in packs, to squeeze the pitch. And force them long. I felt like we abandoned that pressure in the second half anyway. I'm not sure how people can't see a clear pattern in our turgid second half display It all dropped off. In the first half we got men forwards when the ball went forwards, in the second we didnt. So they build an attack, we clear it, we dont challenge for the knock down & they keep coming back at us because we let them. Some people have just reinterpreted that as "southampton just came out and were mint". Pardew does it because he prefers to have men behind the ball once in the lead & to break on the counter. How this isnt a known historical fact at this point ive no idea. We've been talking about it for the last 2 seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 height=700http://i.imgur.com/uOSMLUq.png[/img] height=700http://i.imgur.com/YxgIVp9.png[/img] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 What app are you using here btw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 height=700http://i.imgur.com/uOSMLUq.png[/img] height=700http://i.imgur.com/YxgIVp9.png[/img] Looks more like Ben Arfa's shirt than Krul's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 What app are you using here btw? Four Four Two Stats Zone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Annoys me how we bring every single player back into our penalty area when defending corners, and this isn't just at the end of matches when we're under the kosh. Just a whinge, but it strikes me as very negative, especially when you've brought back totally useless defenders like Remy and Ben Arfa. Just encourages the opposition instead of worrying them about us breaking - something we're actually pretty good at with these players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 What app are you using here btw? Four Four Two Stats Zone Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 One of the most annoying things about him is that he still doesn't know what his best formation is, what his best starting XI is and what style of football to play. He stumbles across new setups when he is forced to change through injury and he'll stick with them until it goes tits up, and then it's back to the drawing board. He's done well lately but like Beren (I think) said in the match thread yesterday there is definitely a glass ceiling with him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 One of the most annoying things about him is that he still doesn't know what his best formation is, what his best starting XI is and what style of football to play. He stumbles across new setups when he is forced to change through injury and he'll stick with them until it goes tits up, and then it's back to the drawing board. He's done well lately but like Beren (I think) said in the match thread yesterday there is definitely a glass ceiling with him I'm not sure I agree with you, he has a way of playing and he more often than not sticks to it. He found a good winning style towards the end of the season when we finished 5th and he dropped it. He found a winning style in our last away game and in the very next game he abandoned it. He's a limited manager who likes what he knows and that's costing us because our players are better than the limited way he seems to want us to play. We're doing much better than last season but I don't think we'll ever reach our potential with Pardew at the club and we're unlikely to show any ambition and change him while Ashley is at the club, unless we have another season like last. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Annoys me how we bring every single player back into our penalty area when defending corners, and this isn't just at the end of matches when we're under the kosh. Just a whinge, but it strikes me as very negative, especially when you've brought back totally useless defenders like Remy and Ben Arfa. Just encourages the opposition instead of worrying them about us breaking - something we're actually pretty good at it with these players. Drives me mad as well. I remember Jose in his first spell as Chelsea manager leaving 3 players up field ready to counter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Cyber tears, 90 minutes of domination, I shag lasses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Southampton are another of those good teams that are greater than the sum of their parts largely thanks to a clearly defined style of play. Unlike us. This is basically it. They pass it around without panic and with a well drilled positional sense and intelligence. Pochettino will end up at a big club. As will Laudrup I suspect, and just look at Everton blossoming now that Martinez has replaced the worthy but limited Moyes. Man U went for the wrong man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Annoys me how we bring every single player back into our penalty area when defending corners, and this isn't just at the end of matches when we're under the kosh. Just a whinge, but it strikes me as very negative, especially when you've brought back totally useless defenders like Remy and Ben Arfa. Just encourages the opposition instead of worrying them about us breaking - something we're actually pretty good at with these players. Think I started a thread on here about that years ago. Boils my piss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Annoys me how we bring every single player back into our penalty area when defending corners, and this isn't just at the end of matches when we're under the kosh. Just a whinge, but it strikes me as very negative, especially when you've brought back totally useless defenders like Remy and Ben Arfa. Just encourages the opposition instead of worrying them about us breaking - something we're actually pretty good at with these players. Think I started a thread on here about that years ago. Boils my p*ss. We've done it for years and way before Pardew as well. It's baffling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Annoys me how we bring every single player back into our penalty area when defending corners, and this isn't just at the end of matches when we're under the kosh. Just a whinge, but it strikes me as very negative, especially when you've brought back totally useless defenders like Remy and Ben Arfa. Just encourages the opposition instead of worrying them about us breaking - something we're actually pretty good at with these players. Think I started a thread on here about that years ago. Boils my p*ss. It does my head in, if we clear the ball it's coming straight back at us. It's the same when we're defending a free kick in our own half and I just hope the ball goes out so we can get players into the opposition half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Never been able to understand why a small fast player isn't left on the half way line when defending a corner. It almost necessitates two extra players having to stay back. It's hardly a Pardew thing though, with the exception of the aforementioned time when Chelsea kept up to three players up no one seems to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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