cp40 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 it is argueably the 3rd best time to support us in 30 odd years. Bettered only by the Keegan, and Robson Teams. Also by the sheer fact in can improve,win something? has the potential to match or surpass them. yet some people are not happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Don't want to say anyone is clearly guilty of this but... Honestly though it was like reading RTG at times yesterday with the "we were lucky" comments. It was the same the season we finished 5th. Not sure some will ever enjoy watching us anymore as they seem desperate to be 'balanced'. We certainly had the rub of the green to get into that position and things weren't looking good at all on 40 minutes, but as I said earlier on you can only beat what's in front of you and we did that with aplomb, so good stuff. I'm watching MOTD and Shearer and Savage are both saying we were lucky to get all the decisions we did yesterday, not sure what their N-O usernames are but they're as manic-depressive Pardew-haters as anyone else on here going by the logic you're applying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 and by the way, that's s*** performances with pretty much an entire first team squad available for the season so far... s*** performances... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Ah reet, one person, cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 it is argueably the 3rd best time to support us in 30 odd years. Bettered only by the Keegan, and Robson Teams. Also by the sheer fact in can improve,win something? has the potential to match or surpass them. yet some people are not happy. That's it though, some people believe that for us to improve/win something we will need a different manager. Not that they aren't "happy", you've just added a bit of negative spin at the end there for no apparent reason, I would say most are over the moon with us at the minute whilst still having concerns and/or aspiring for it to be better. Nothing wrong with that at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Everything is perfect, there's no need to discuss it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 it is argueably the 3rd best time to support us in 30 odd years. Bettered only by the Keegan, and Robson Teams. Also by the sheer fact in can improve,win something? has the potential to match or surpass them. yet some people are not happy. I'm really happy with how things are going this season, I'd be pretty mental if I wasn't. I also think we were really lucky that Stoke self imploded yesterday, before we did a good job of capitalising on our luck in the second half. If that makes me desperate or hard to please, so be it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 it is argueably the 3rd best time to support us in 30 odd years. Bettered only by the Keegan, and Robson Teams. Also by the sheer fact in can improve,win something? has the potential to match or surpass them. yet some people are not happy. I'm really happy with how things are going this season, I'd be pretty mental if I wasn't. I also think we were really lucky that Stoke self imploded yesterday, before we did a good job of capitalising on our luck in the second half. If that makes me desperate or hard to please, so be it. I agree. I stand by my point , 3rd best shape weve been in since we were relegated in late 70s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 We definitely had the rub of the green but we at least did something about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Have no idea why some follow football, they clearly get no enjoyment from it "Okay we have a lot of points, we are ahead of Man Utd & Spurs, only 6 points off the leaders at Xmas but, but, but, well they all play better football than us!". Give up, seriously. You are never going to enjoy this sport, try cricket or something. I feel the same way about people who only follow for the results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 it is argueably the 3rd best time to support us in 30 odd years. Bettered only by the Keegan, and Robson Teams. Also by the sheer fact in can improve,win something? has the potential to match or surpass them. yet some people are not happy. Was thinking this yesterday. Despite the shit thrown at Pardew, he is quite possibly the third best manager some of us have had in our life times. Sounds a bit of a bonkers thought. Nevertheless, it's a valid one, unless of course you're inclined to give more of the credit to Ashley for investing in a squad he can't fail with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoU Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 it is argueably the 3rd best time to support us in 30 odd years. Bettered only by the Keegan, and Robson Teams. Also by the sheer fact in can improve,win something? has the potential to match or surpass them. yet some people are not happy. Was thinking this yesterday. Despite the shit thrown at Pardew, he is quite possibly the third best manager some of us have had in our life times. Sounds a bit of a bonkers thought. Nevertheless, it's a valid one, unless of course you're inclined to give more of the credit to Ashley for investing in a squad he can't fail with. I agree with this. Have done really well under Mr. trying-to-buy-our-own-player and Cashley. Any other decent manager would have walked a long time ago (and rightly so tbh), so there really isn't any other way than to support Pardew and the team. If we ever get another owner, we can discuss him then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 and by the way, that's s*** performances with pretty much an entire first team squad available for the season so far... s*** performances... here brett, fuck you and your constant dodgy quoting to make points the above edited version, as you well fucking know, was about how we we find it hard to break down teams at home who come to shut up shop west ham, fulham, hull, norwich, west brom, stoke (i left out southampton, liverpool, chelsea as they play more expansive games) so there's 6 of our 9 home games - aside from post-sendings off stoke how many good performances were put in in those games? be honest....cp40's putting us in the keegan/robson bracket here man, how do you think their teams would have done trying to break down those 6 sides? as for cp40's other point i'm happy and enjoying it, don't see why we can't talk about it like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Some of our fans just plain don't like Pardew. It's understandable, he can be a difficult person to like and there are a lot of flaws, however he deserves a huge chunk of credit for our recent upswing in form for which he is responsible. He took brave decisions that would be unpopular so he could implement a system which suited us better and we've started to pick up results. I don't see a problem with people discussing issues, however some posters either see what they want to see or have a rather tenuous grasp on reality. Example: after the Southampton game I came in this very thread and saw a couple of people complaining about how defensive we were in the second half, even though we only conceded because our back four was on the edge of their final third and Santon had tried to lob the ball into their box rather than take the conservative option and spray it wide to Debuchy. It's not entirely surprising that posters get defensive when they come into threads and see guff like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I felt we came out for the second half against Southampton with little or no intention of scoring another goal. That their equaliser happened to come on the break doesn't change my opinion on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Shola started the 2nd half up front on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I felt we came out for the second half against Southampton with little or no intention of scoring another goal. That their equaliser happened to come on the break doesn't change my opinion on that. That's what I saw too. I know I don't like Pardew but I'm not going to accept that this will blind my ability to rationally view a match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I felt we came out for the second half against Southampton with little or no intention of scoring another goal. That their equaliser happened to come on the break doesn't change my opinion on that. That's what I saw too. I know I don't like Pardew but I'm not going to accept that this will blind my ability to rationally view a match. I quite like the chancing cunt to be honest, I certainly don't hate the guy as some do, as you say though I can separate that from what I see during the games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Some of our fans just plain don't like Pardew. It's understandable, he can be a difficult person to like and there are a lot of flaws, however he deserves a huge chunk of credit for our recent upswing in form for which he is responsible. He took brave decisions that would be unpopular so he could implement a system which suited us better and we've started to pick up results. I don't see a problem with people discussing issues, however some posters either see what they want to see or have a rather tenuous grasp on reality. Example: after the Southampton game I came in this very thread and saw a couple of people complaining about how defensive we were in the second half, even though we only conceded because our back four was on the edge of their final third and Santon had tried to lob the ball into their box rather than take the conservative option and spray it wide to Debuchy. It's not entirely surprising that posters get defensive when they come into threads and see guff like that. I thought that Santon had lost the ball further back into our own half and admitted that I was wrong, I wasn't wrong that we'd come out for the 2nd half and sat back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Some of our fans just plain don't like Pardew. It's understandable, he can be a difficult person to like and there are a lot of flaws, however he deserves a huge chunk of credit for our recent upswing in form for which he is responsible. He took brave decisions that would be unpopular so he could implement a system which suited us better and we've started to pick up results. I don't see a problem with people discussing issues, however some posters either see what they want to see or have a rather tenuous grasp on reality. Example: after the Southampton game I came in this very thread and saw a couple of people complaining about how defensive we were in the second half, even though we only conceded because our back four was on the edge of their final third and Santon had tried to lob the ball into their box rather than take the conservative option and spray it wide to Debuchy. It's not entirely surprising that posters get defensive when they come into threads and see guff like that. I thought that Santon had lost the ball further back into our own half and admitted that I was wrong, I wasn't wrong that we'd come out for the 2nd half and sat back. Its amazing that people choose to ignore or don't have the intelligence to see this. It isn't like it's only happened once or twice or even periodically. Against sides that we are better than with a half time lead, we sit back with a keep what we have ethic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Its amazing that people choose to ignore or don't have the intelligence to see this. It isn't like it's only happened once or twice or even periodically. Against sides that we are better than with a half time lead, we sit back with a keep what we have ethic. Some people can't or won't see past the result for some reason, it we don't get beat we've done enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I felt we came out for the second half against Southampton with little or no intention of scoring another goal. That their equaliser happened to come on the break doesn't change my opinion on that. That's what I saw too. I know I don't like Pardew but I'm not going to accept that this will blind my ability to rationally view a match. Yep, me neither. Jesus Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Man, that's just an incredible post. We were obvs going gung-ho and I just can't see it because I don't really like Pardew's hair or accent very much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Some of our fans just plain don't like Pardew. It's understandable, he can be a difficult person to like and there are a lot of flaws, however he deserves a huge chunk of credit for our recent upswing in form for which he is responsible. He took brave decisions that would be unpopular so he could implement a system which suited us better and we've started to pick up results. I don't see a problem with people discussing issues, however some posters either see what they want to see or have a rather tenuous grasp on reality. Example: after the Southampton game I came in this very thread and saw a couple of people complaining about how defensive we were in the second half, even though we only conceded because our back four was on the edge of their final third and Santon had tried to lob the ball into their box rather than take the conservative option and spray it wide to Debuchy. It's not entirely surprising that posters get defensive when they come into threads and see guff like that. I thought that Santon had lost the ball further back into our own half and admitted that I was wrong, I wasn't wrong that we'd come out for the 2nd half and sat back. Its amazing that people choose to ignore or don't have the intelligence to see this. It isn't like it's only happened once or twice or even periodically. Against sides that we are better than with a half time lead, we sit back with a keep what we have ethic. do you think it's always tactical though ? sometimes we have, especially last season. however sometimes this season I think we've been pushed back and caught out for being one paced, in a team tempo sense. it's also why we struggle when going behind, not because we don't want to score, more that we struggle to raise the tempo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 What pisses me off about Pardew -- well, the Southampton match. Bringing Ben Arfa is what won the match against Man Utd. They were resurgent and he came on and killed the game. Absolutely brillant. So what does Pardew do against Southampton? Does Ben Arfa start the second half? Or do we sit back and invite the pressure? He brought Ben Arfa on when, in the 80 minute? I'd really like to like Pardew-- his personality has nothing to do with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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