Kaizero Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 There's no way Whelan's first yellow was justified. Just saying like. Matter of opinion though. Which I guess the definition and use of "lucky" is as well, tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I just think if we call ourselves lucky because Stoke had two men sent off, Stoke can call themselves unlucky. Which, in my opinion, they can't for bringing two justified red cards upon themselves. Why? The first sending off and even the second one were situations within Stoke's control to cause/prevent, which is not the case the other way around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 There's no way Whelan's first yellow was justified. Just saying like. Matter of opinion though. Which I guess the definition and use of "lucky" is as well, tbf. I sit near the half way line and had a good side on view. To my mind Whelan kicked the ball away and deserved his yellow. I thought Cabaye was lucky not to also get yellow as he took the opportunity to have a nibble at Whelen which caused the spat. The only lucky thing I can say is that players kick the ball away frequently without getting the yellow the rules prescribe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I just think if we call ourselves lucky because Stoke had two men sent off, Stoke can call themselves unlucky. Which, in my opinion, they can't for bringing two justified red cards upon themselves. Fair enough from Wullie mind if I did say that, my memory is atrocious so I honestly can't remember it. I still absolutely hate wins being put down to luck but fuck it, I feel like shit, can't hear and just want to curl up and cry now anyway so apologies if I have overreacted Dr V Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemagpie Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 There's no way Whelan's first yellow was justified. Just saying like. Well 2 referees on Talk Sport confirmed that kicking the ball away like he did is a mandatory yellow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Pardew played a blinder against Stoke, I have no idea how he planned to have 2 players sent off and a couple of penalties but he must have planned it if it wasn't down to luck. I also feel sorry for him as luck never goes for him, only against him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Only the first sending off involved any luck for us. Anyway, im sure we'll all have many games where we start poorly & dont win 5-1 to save having to discuss the issue after a big win like. We reacted well after some good fortune, hopefully it adds to our belief to win games after losing the lead anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 A mate met him last night in 'Pleased To Meet You' - I think he shops in the same places as me :lol: Thats not Alan Pardew man. His mate is the lad at the back cowied off his tits. He thinks the bloke with the hat on is Vernon Anita. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Went from having his tactics wrong to completely right against Stoke. Think that game was a case of where we had made our own luck in recent weeks, all rubbing off in one game. Going to be another tough one tomorrow. I hope we field a nice solid team and keep a high tempo, get in their faces and get stuck in. They don't like it up 'em and with a solid, determined first half hour I think we can sneak it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I just think if we call ourselves lucky because Stoke had two men sent off, Stoke can call themselves unlucky. Which, in my opinion, they can't for bringing two justified red cards upon themselves. Fair enough from Wullie mind if I did say that, my memory is atrocious so I honestly can't remember it. I still absolutely hate wins being put down to luck but fuck it, I feel like shit, can't hear and just want to curl up and cry now anyway so apologies if I have overreacted Dr V That's alright mate, no hard feelings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I just think if we call ourselves lucky because Stoke had two men sent off, Stoke can call themselves unlucky. Which, in my opinion, they can't for bringing two justified red cards upon themselves. Why? The first sending off and even the second one were situations within Stoke's control to cause/prevent, which is not the case the other way around. Exactly! Not sure where the ambiguity is there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I just think if we call ourselves lucky because Stoke had two men sent off, Stoke can call themselves unlucky. Which, in my opinion, they can't for bringing two justified red cards upon themselves. Fair enough from Wullie mind if I did say that, my memory is atrocious so I honestly can't remember it. I still absolutely hate wins being put down to luck but fuck it, I feel like shit, can't hear and just want to curl up and cry now anyway so apologies if I have overreacted Dr V That's alright mate, no hard feelings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 We lost because Pardew is a coward even at home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Pardew getting blamed for losing against the best team in the country in 2013. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 We lost because Pardew is a coward even at home No we didn't. Pardew was ok today. We were playing Arsenal not some shit team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Showed them too much respect but the players didn't do him justice too, far too soft in the final third. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Same-old shit tactic of holding off until the x minute mark. Works once in a while (Chelsea), but it's a strategy that's nothing short of negative, cowardly and boring. Having a good season or not, should rightly be criticised. The attacking "threat" and ideas we offered all game is nothing short of Championship standards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Pardew getting blamed for losing against the best team in the country in 2013. Wow. I guess you need another 3-0 loss at home to SMB, don't you? It's not particularly the fact that we lost, it's the way we lost it. No invention whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Same-old s*** tactic of holding off until the x minute mark. Works once in a while (Chelsea), but it's a strategy that's nothing short of negative, cowardly and boring. Having a good season or not, should rightly be criticised. The attacking "threat" and ideas we offered all game is nothing short of Championship standards. Its not like we were living on edge defending like our lives depended on it in the first half. We were as attacking as Arsenal were Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Same-old s*** tactic of holding off until the x minute mark. Works once in a while (Chelsea), but it's a strategy that's nothing short of negative, cowardly and boring. Having a good season or not, should rightly be criticised. The attacking "threat" and ideas we offered all game is nothing short of Championship standards. Its not like we were living on edge defending like our lives depended on it in the first half. We were as attacking as Arsenal were The only time we attacked was probably near the end of the half. And even then that came from Arsenal mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Too happy to contain them, albeit a good side...They looked fragile today with players missing would like to have see Hatem start and us really get at them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Same-old s*** tactic of holding off until the x minute mark. Works once in a while (Chelsea), but it's a strategy that's nothing short of negative, cowardly and boring. Having a good season or not, should rightly be criticised. The attacking "threat" and ideas we offered all game is nothing short of Championship standards. Spot on. Our tactics going forward always amount to nothing more than hopeful crosses into the box. These players could be capable of a lot more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Got no problems with Pardew today, except for those pre match comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Not gonna give him too much grief tbh, our performances against the top teams has been good this year and we've done it mostly setting up like we did today. Just didn't go our way today, a crappy goal at a shitty time was our undoing and it's hard to fault him for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Got no problems with Pardew today, except for those pre match comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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