M4 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Nowt to do with attitude. All to do with questioning Pardew's negative tactics. Just like most of us. From a managerial perspective then that would be classed as an 'attitude problem'. But yes, we all agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Imagine he had come on today instead of obertan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Get him back in team. My god. We'd have tied today with him at very least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I find it really strange Pardew isn't at the very least keeping Ben Arfa involved enough so he can throw him on when we're behind for the old "bit of magic". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Because, if reports are to be believed, Hatem dared challenge his "vision." It's an ego thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I find it really strange Pardew isn't at the very least keeping Ben Arfa involved enough so he can throw him on when we're behind for the old "bit of magic". No mention of him whatsoever in Pardew's post match interview when he was listing through players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I find it really strange Pardew isn't at the very least keeping Ben Arfa involved enough so he can throw him on when we're behind for the old "bit of magic". No mention of him whatsoever in Pardew's post match interview when he was listing through players. Apart from when he mentioned Caballa's threat around the box and that we had not seen the like of it since Cabaye left. Thought that was another sly dig at Ben Arfa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I find it really strange Pardew isn't at the very least keeping Ben Arfa involved enough so he can throw him on when we're behind for the old "bit of magic". No mention of him whatsoever in Pardew's post match interview when he was listing through players. Apart from when he mentioned Caballa's threat around the box and that we had not seen the like of it since Cabaye left. Thought that was another sly dig at Ben Arfa. Ben Arfa has started 3-4 matches since Cabaye was sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I find it really strange Pardew isn't at the very least keeping Ben Arfa involved enough so he can throw him on when we're behind for the old "bit of magic". No mention of him whatsoever in Pardew's post match interview when he was listing through players. Apart from when he mentioned Caballa's threat around the box and that we had not seen the like of it since Cabaye left. Thought that was another sly dig at Ben Arfa. Ben Arfa has started 3-4 matches since Cabaye was sold. I know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportnet Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 i watched the video BEN ARFA the maverick one lets say that someone showed that video to you and told you that we would sign this guy on Monday I would really think that we could qualify for Europe this season...strange to think that we have this kind of quality in our team and we just waste it. also saw Jonas there few times in goal celebration sad to see how club treated him as well, always gave everything and seems really positive guy but now nowhere to be seen.... was thinking maybe he was the one supporting ben arfa and he fell out because of that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 The fact that Pardew wont even comment on it pisses me off! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Imagine him and Cabella running at defences - would be beautiful to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Cabella is no where near as talented as HBA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Makes me sick that Obertan gets on over this lad. Doesn't make any sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Screaming out for him today and who comes on? Gabriel fucking Obertan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Saw enough of Cabella on the very brief MOTD2 highlights to suggest that playing the pair of them could be dynamite, particularly against the shitter teams (ie most of the league). Ah well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Makes me sick that Obertan gets on over this lad. Doesn't make any sense Attitude over talent. Dangerous game whichever way you play it. Pardew clearly rates the latter "in his eyes". True gutter Hatem can't get a reprieve. Would be a huge boost having him back with Cabella on the left and Siem in the middle. Pardew didn't seem to mention "Chucky" either for what its worth. But maybe that's either a name I missed Pardew talking about or certainly for another thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Treatment of this guy is beyond bizarre when Obertan is getting game time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Obertan's done ok in a couple of pre-season games and it earns him a reprieve. He's had about 1 good game in his whole time here. In that time, he's stormed out after being left off the bench, basically been told he can leave and played dog shit anytime he's been near the pitch - and I don't just mean going forward, even when he "tracks back" i.e. Pardew's fetish, he's shite at that too. He's literally useless, and has no plusses to cancel out the many minuses I've just listed. Ben Arfa brings so much more than this utter cocknose but it's one rule for one and other rules for everybody else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Pardew you utter cretin its not too late, get him in the team and lets play in the oppositions half for a change, we might win a game or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Two years ago today. "For me, Hatem was the stand-out player today. He was taking people on in all areas of the pitch and even got two of the Spurs players booked early on. Hatem won and scored the penalty and you need players like this if you are going to do well. "It was a little white lie by me (to say HBA was unfit). I don’t tell too many, but that was one. He looked sharp in training and the only thing we were worried about was that he hadn’t had a lot of game time. The more I looked at him, the more I thought he was ready - he really was terrific today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I'm echoing what people have already said but when we switched to 433 during the first half against Man City I couldn't help think how fantastic it would be seeing Cabella on one side and Ben Arfa on the other. Unless a minor miracle happens in Pardew's mind or we get another manager in we'll never see it. Tragic really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Got to feel for Obertan Getting so much heat because of Pardew's foolishness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Would feel so much happier about the rest of this season if he was involved in the first team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Got to feel for Obertan Getting so much heat because of Pardew's foolishness. No. He's shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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