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fair enough...

 

but if you were based in the UK, its a bit of a stretch to fly to the US, which currently costs about $1500, just to register a .com domain, with a company you have probably never heard of.

 

Considering that they only raised £500.  Im just not convinced.

 

 

 

I CONCUR WITH ZICOMAN STOP THE NOTION IS PREPOSTEROUS STOP MOTIVATED ME TO SET THIS TELEGRAM FOR IMMEDIATE UPLOAD TO CONFER SUPPORT STOP

 

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fair enough...

 

but if you were based in the UK, its a bit of a stretch to fly to the US, which currently costs about $1500, just to register a .com domain, with a company you have probably never heard of.

 

Considering that they only raised £500.  Im just not convinced.

 

 

 

I CONCUR WITH ZICOMAN STOP THE NOTION IS PREPOSTEROUS STOP MOTIVATED ME TO SET THIS TELEGRAM FOR IMMEDIATE UPLOAD TO CONFER SUPPORT STOP

 

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Depends what you mean by 'fix the issue'. Would sacking Pardew transform the ambitions of NUFC, of course not. But it might make each individual 90 minutes a bit more watchable.

 

The issue is that we are willing to be a mid-table, nothing side with no relevance or desire to be relevant. We don't want glory and we do want balance sheets to look healthy.

 

If we won the league through 38 victories of 1-0 where the goal had been pumped up root 1 and we won 1-0 I wouldn't give a flying f*** as a Newcastle United fan.

 

Well fair enough then, we'll never win the league under Ashley obviously.

 

As a short-term measure though, I'd be quite happy to get another manager and get the most out of the players we have. It's not like Ashley is going to instruct the manager to start losing once we look like finishing too high in the league.

 

Aye, and I agree we should get rid of him. However, what decent manager would want to come here and work under Ashley's conditions?

 

Ashley's patience is wearing thin after such a modest start to the campaign.

 

If he does sack Pardew then there will be plenty of managers keen to take up the post at one of the biggest and best-supported clubs in the land.

 

Neil Warnock, who returned to St James' Park as the new Palace boss less than a fortnight ago, called it "a proper club, with proper fans and a place that lives and breathes football".

 

That is so true. Whether Pardew is the man to breathe new life into it remains very much in the balance.

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fair enough...

 

but if you were based in the UK, its a bit of a stretch to fly to the US, which currently costs about $1500, just to register a .com domain, with a company you have probably never heard of.

 

Considering that they only raised £500.  Im just not convinced.

 

 

This is absolute GOLD! :lol:

Can't stop laughing away to myself. Sorry, zicomartin. :lol:

 

class  :lol:

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: what the shitting hell is this?

 

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fair enough...

 

but if you were based in the UK, its a bit of a stretch to fly to the US, which currently costs about $1500, just to register a .com domain, with a company you have probably never heard of.

 

Considering that they only raised £500.  Im just not convinced.

 

 

 

I CONCUR WITH ZICOMAN STOP THE NOTION IS PREPOSTEROUS STOP MOTIVATED ME TO SET THIS TELEGRAM FOR IMMEDIATE UPLOAD TO CONFER SUPPORT STOP

 

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I was thinking more in terms of his PERFORMANCE based contract.  But who cares.  Put him out to pasture, and just move on.

 

this is a good very good point actually, hadn't considered it before - if he is on such a low basic then put him on standby, ashley doesn't pay any bonuses and it'll be for pardew to find another job or get by on relative peanuts

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Wouldn't he be getting that performance based contract renewed until eternity as clearly he is meeting his remit of staying in the PL, aiming for a top 10, staying the hell out of cups and avoiding Europe? He pretty much IS on a performance based contract and he's killing it, literally.

 

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fair enough...

 

but if you were based in the UK, its a bit of a stretch to fly to the US, which currently costs about $1500, just to register a .com domain, with a company you have probably never heard of.

 

Considering that they only raised £500.  Im just not convinced.

 

 

 

Next time I order some goods online from the USA it's going to cost me a fortune to fly over there to use the USA internet to place my order.

 

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fair enough...

 

but if you were based in the UK, its a bit of a stretch to fly to the US, which currently costs about $1500, just to register a .com domain, with a company you have probably never heard of.

 

Considering that they only raised £500.  Im just not convinced.

 

 

This is absolute GOLD! :lol:

Can't stop laughing away to myself. Sorry, zicomartin. :lol:

 

class  :lol:

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: what the shitting hell is this?

 

:clap: POTY

 

:lol: :lol: Can't be quoted enough. The stuff of legends.

 

Zicomartin sir :clap:

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Tonight, We Dine in Purgatory. A brand new piece on Pardew's losing football. It's here http://sackpardew.com/articles/tonight-we-dine-in-purgatory/ … #nufc #sackpardew #pardewout

 

Good read :thup:

 

For those who can't access it atm

 

 

Tonight, We Dine in Purgatory

 

It has been 600 days since Reading beat Newcastle United 2-1 at St James’ Park. By that point in the 2012/13 season Newcastle had already suffered home defeats to Manchester United, West Ham, Swansea, Manchester City and Everton. It was January.

 

For many it was a turning point, the conclusive proof that his time had come; the final straw. For me it was confirmation of all my previous concerns.

 

The manner in which the game was lost, and it was lost, as opposed to won, was a combination of many of the areas of management in which Pardew is severely flawed. Pardew would tell you, with a straight face, that he sets his teams out to attack. However, here he tried to defend a 1-0 half time lead at home to poor opposition, getting it spectacularly wrong in the process. He’ll tell you that he likes attacking players, yet he substituted the effective Marveaux for Perch; a move which made the team substantially less threatening and showed an alarming lack of foresight. He will also tell you that he’s a fan of Newcastle United, yet he blamed the rest of us for the result stating that the substitutions “brought a negative reaction that spread around.”

 

Cabaye had just returned from injury and likely wouldn’t see the game out. Common sense would suggest that the Frenchman should be the one to make way for Perch, rather than the industrious and fully-fit Marveaux. Marveaux won the free kick from which Newcastle took the lead in the first half, but by moving up the pitch he broke one of Alan’s first rules of football; stand by your fullback. As it turned out, Cabaye had to be substituted anyway after the midfielder reported pain in his recently ‘recovered’ groin. A woeful combination of decisions killed the side’s rhythm and ultimately set the tone for yet another appalling home defeat.

 

“You don’t know what you’re doing!” sang the home fans. They were right.

 

The game was an important milestone in Pardew’s Newcastle career, but it wasn’t a one-off. Had it been an isolated incident I wouldn’t be writing this article. At the time of writing, this is Newcastle’s competitive record since:

 

Played 56

Won 21

Drawn 9

Lost 27

F 63

A 91

GD-28

Pts 71

PPG  1.27

 

Statistics tell you part of the story but that’s not all there is to it.

 

There’s no joy in watching Pardew’s Newcastle team. There’s no endeavour and no intention to threaten the opposing team in a cohesive way. You rarely see the team work their way up the pitch as a team, and when it does happen the impression is that football has all of a sudden ‘broken out’ through fortune rather than design.

 

The standard rebuttal is usually something like ‘it’s Ashley’s fault’ or ‘who else would we get’? Ashley is at fault, no question, but that shouldn’t mean Pardew gets a free pass. The clearest response to the second question is that we need someone who gets the team playing football, as opposed to telling them exactly where to stand and not to move forwards unless we win a corner. We need a manager who thinks football is to be enjoyed by those playing as well as by those watching, I don’t particularly mind who it is but I’m convinced we could attract someone who fits the bill, even with ‘this owner’.

 

Mathieu Debuchy recently revealed that he was frustrated during his time at the club because Pardew ‘told him to stay back’. That’s French international first choice right back Mathieu Debuchy. I’m not going to go into how utterly mismanaged Newcastle’s squad of players has been over the last four years, that’s a different article, suffice to say that failing to get the best out of Debuchy, by being negative rather than positive, is a microcosm of the way Pardew approaches football in general.

 

Keep it tight at all costs and hope the lad up front can score on his own. That’s it. That’s his thing. It’s ineffective and it’s incredibly boring to watch. Keegan once remarked that we go to the football to be entertained, the Geordie equivalent to visiting the theatre; for the past four years we’ve been waiting for Godot.

 

It’s Pardew’s negative approach that has brought about all the hideous results we’ve had to endure during his time here. Head to the Dark Days section for a sample of the awful results we’ve had to endure due to his management.

 

What’s the solution then? Well here’s an idea. We’re Newcastle United, odds are we’re not going to win anything any time soon, right? So why not employ someone who’ll have a go? I’m not your typical Geordie stereotype who would prefer losing 4-3 to winning 1-0, in fact I don’t really believe those people exist, but there’s a middle ground to be taken here. Going out to beat teams like Reading at home isn’t going to get us relegated.

 

Football, when it’s good, can be a beautiful, life-affirming game to watch. Watching a well constructed move can be a powerful experience no matter which team is in possession. The game isn’t about keeping it tight and hoping for some ‘magic’. Magic, that’s what he calls it, as if the ability to attack a team is some unfathomable voodoo. This is the way Pardew looks at the game, he’s reduced it to a turgid, boring, passionless thing. Wins, when they do come, are usually by a one goal margin and nail-bitingly close as we take the lead and immediately relinquish all momentum in favour of backs to the wall defending. That might be acceptable at Old Trafford but it’s not acceptable, or the right thing to do, every week.

 

There’s plenty of first hand information available which backs up the way Pardew sets out his team, I don’t need to discuss four days a week working on defending on the training ground or quotes from current players stating the aim is to ‘keep it tight and nick one’. Its all out there for you to find yourself, I suggest you do so.

 

Have a read and make your own mind up. But don’t let anything you read, including this article, dictate what you think about the way the team plays. Watch the football, the football Newcastle United are playing these days. Watch closely, and don’t under any circumstances let Alan Pardew tell you what Newcastle United are about, he’s a liar.

 

It’s time to sack Pardew. In fact, that time came 600 days ago.

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Depends what you mean by 'fix the issue'. Would sacking Pardew transform the ambitions of NUFC, of course not. But it might make each individual 90 minutes a bit more watchable.

 

The issue is that we are willing to be a mid-table, nothing side with no relevance or desire to be relevant. We don't want glory and we do want balance sheets to look healthy.

 

If we won the league through 38 victories of 1-0 where the goal had been pumped up root 1 and we won 1-0 I wouldn't give a flying f*** as a Newcastle United fan.

 

Well fair enough then, we'll never win the league under Ashley obviously.

 

As a short-term measure though, I'd be quite happy to get another manager and get the most out of the players we have. It's not like Ashley is going to instruct the manager to start losing once we look like finishing too high in the league.

 

Aye, and I agree we should get rid of him. However, what decent manager would want to come here and work under Ashley's conditions?

 

Ashley's patience is wearing thin after such a modest start to the campaign.

 

If he does sack Pardew then there will be plenty of managers keen to take up the post at one of the biggest and best-supported clubs in the land.

 

Neil Warnock, who returned to St James' Park as the new Palace boss less than a fortnight ago, called it "a proper club, with proper fans and a place that lives and breathes football".

 

That is so true. Whether Pardew is the man to breathe new life into it remains very much in the balance.

 

Out of curiosity where is that quote from?

Also, if Neil Warnock is the type of manager we appeal to then we really don't have many options, do we.

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I don't think this one's so effective. The Reading was appalling but it was ages ago. The point about style of football is obviously true for us as NUFC fans, but I'm not sure it will have any resonance in the wider football world.

 

Good on them for keeping content coming though.

 

 

 

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Assuming this happens, what is the likely caretaker scenario? No way it should be Carver or Stone, they are equally culpable for our terrible football.  Incidentally I did feel sorry for JC but he has become a pardewd puppet too now and having worked under the great SBR, there is no excuses for him not taking a stand against this fraud and his negative anti football tactics.

 

Anyway, back to my point - will Beardsley get the nod for a few games?

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