Mole_Toonfan Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 People struggling to grasp that still. We have 2 strikers though. 2. It's not about that, it's that we have about 5 players that won't be playing that need to be moved. Most clubs go through this all the time, except they actually succeed in moving them on. We don't need to move players because we lack funds, we need to move them because there's a 25 man squad and we have 30+ players atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 People struggling to grasp that still. We have 2 strikers though. 2. Naah. We've got about 5 players who could play up front. It's just that they're mostly shit/young/played deeper most of the time. Having strikers is different to having players who could play upfront. Unless you're counting Toney and Armstrong? Ignoring younguns, we've got Gayle/Mitro/Perez/Riviere. I'm not saying anything about their ability, just the fact that Mike looks at the squad, sees 4 strikers, says if you want another, sell one of these twats. And then we wander out to the market trying to shill our Riviere wares and the whole world s at us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 People struggling to grasp that still. We have 2 strikers though. 2. Naah. We've got about 5 players who could play up front. It's just that they're mostly shit/young/played deeper most of the time. Having strikers is different to having players who could play upfront. Unless you're counting Toney and Armstrong? Ignoring younguns, we've got Gayle/Mitro/Perez/Riviere. I'm not saying anything about their ability, just the fact that Mike looks at the squad, sees 4 strikers, says if you want another, sell one of these twats. And then we wander out to the market trying to shill our Riviere wares and the whole world s at us. Are we the only club in the history of football with this issue? Assume we're the only ones giving 5.5 year contracts to shit footballers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Hanley, Lazaar, Diame, Haidara, Krul, Saivet, Riviere. That's a lot of shite that needs shifting. They may not be on massive salaries but combined they'll be costing us millions a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 There have been so few rumours about our fringe players/returning loanee superstars leaving though. Are they really that unwanted? Or are we just playing the c***, expecting that people will want to pay reasonable money for players who are clearly unwanted and on the wane? I'd imagine our s*** players are on a fairly high salary. The likes of Colback and Riviere are probably being looked at by s*** championship or decent league one teams who can't pay them anything near what they're on. Yeah I'm not really sure about the high-salary chatter though. I'm of the opinion that we're cheap AF, and thus the high-salary talk doesn't really sit right with me. I suppose it's all relative though. I don't think our players are on high Premier League salaries, but you might be right with regards to potential Ligue 1 returnees. Jack Colback will be on PL wages. He's a Championship player and not one that will get you promoted. Likewise Saivet and Riviere. Hanley will find a club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Hanley, Lazaar, Diame, Haidara, Krul, Saivet, Riviere. That's a lot of s**** that needs shifting. They may not be on massive salaries but combined they'll be costing us millions a year. I reckon Rafa would be ok with keeping Diame around for another year in the squad. The rest though aye, need to GTFO sharpish. Problem is not only are their shite but will be kept around doing nothing but picking up wages every week. It will be a good day when they are all gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Hanley, Lazaar, Diame, Haidara, Krul, Saivet, Riviere. That's a lot of s**** that needs shifting. They may not be on massive salaries but combined they'll be costing us millions a year. Opinions aside we ain't looking to shift Diame clearly. Mitro yes though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 We bought a bunch of players that flopped in the relegation season and promotion season that haven't contributed to our promotion. They're just shit. Then there's Haidara, Colback, Riviere, De Jong, Diame, Krul etc. who I don't think are rated but are hard to move on. Diame will find a buyer, Haidara needs to move for his career. SDJ might be useful. The others - yikes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 I'd like a new AM but we won't shift enough out in that position to justify it to the fat man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Calling all of them shite to shift is not really a fair reflection of the situation. We signed some of those players to get us promoted and we can't expect them just to step aside. Obviously that doesn't apply to people like Rivière who were never good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Hanley will easily get a championship club, we are just waiting for our price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Hanley will easily get a championship club, we are just waiting for our price. I'm not worried about that one, i agree. It's the others i'm concerned about, specifically the foreign lads. Especially as it's likely to effect Rafa's ability to get others in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 It's how low do we go? We could get rid tomorrow if we let them go for nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Don't care much about journos saying nothing close atm. How much did they know about the Manquillo and Merino deals before they were almost signed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Don't care much about journos saying nothing close atm. How much did they know about the Manquillo and Merino deals before they were almost signed? Pretty much nothing. Spanish press reported the Manquillo deal the day before his medical but I don't think wind of it caught here until he actually signed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 It's how low do we go? We could get rid tomorrow if we let them go for nothing. Depends on the player really, as Haidara has already proven by turning down St Etienne. We can't do much about that short of buying him out of his contract which obviously Ashley won't do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 I'm a lot calmer about selling Hanley and Darlow than the likes of Riviere, Haidara and Saivet. Think we may be stuck with Krul though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Calling all of them s**** to shift is not really a fair reflection of the situation. We signed some of those players to get us promoted and we can't expect them just to step aside. Obviously that doesn't apply to people like Rivière who were never good enough. Gamez. Lazaar. Hanley. Almost zero contribution. Diame I reckon stays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 I'm a lot calmer about selling Hanley and Darlow than the likes of Riviere, Haidara and Saivet. Agreed. Although we would want money for those 2. The other 3 should be let go for free (without paying them obvs). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 jesus if diame stays and gets game time in the PL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Krul will undoubtedly end up on loan somewhere again. We won't sell Darlow unless we sign/have a keeper lined up. Some shite French side will take Saivet, but we will have to be prepared to cut out losses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Hanley will easily get a championship club, we are just waiting for our price. I'm not worried about that one, i agree. It's the others i'm concerned about, specifically the foreign lads. Especially as it's likely to effect Rafa's ability to get others in. Hanley is on big money apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Hanley will easily get a championship club, we are just waiting for our price. I'm not worried about that one, i agree. It's the others i'm concerned about, specifically the foreign lads. Especially as it's likely to effect Rafa's ability to get others in. Hanley is on big money apparently. Just give him the God damn Ring instead. Colback and Shelvey will be fine without it. Anita isn't even here anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Krul will undoubtedly end up on loan somewhere again. We won't sell Darlow unless we sign/have a keeper lined up. Some shite French side will take Saivet, but we will have to be prepared to cut out losses. Reckon we're up for taking a hit in these deals tbf, but like Haidara/Riv/Hanley, the players look less prepared to take the pay cut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberts Mustache Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 I wonder if one of the reasons we always have a hard time shifting players is the insane amout of "he's sh*t", "garbage", "worthless", "I'm gonna hang myself if he starts" etc. being thrown around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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