Other clubs' transfers

[TRon]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

I wouldn’t mind so much if it was slow and careful. 
 

But it hasn’t been careful. It’s been careless. The owners didn’t even bother to announce an interim CEO. 

 

Careful as in staying the right side of football laws. The CEO business has been handled poorly, no one is defending that. Hopefully they'll get it right this time. What else is there to say really?

 

 

[GEFAFWISP]

Classic dog pile on TCD's incessant shite? The forum is healing. Much love boys and girls.

[cubaricho]

Y’all really need to remember we have an ignore function.  

[Coco]

16 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

You don’t care enough about the Saudi ownership.  You didn’t care when we did a dodgy deal with Forest to avoid PSR issues. You disnt care when we got an Sela sponsorship higher than any non Saudi company would offer.  And if we went multi club you wouldn’t care either if it brought success.  
 

You don’t even care that much about us signing a player for similar actions that Isak did. 
 

Our hands are already covered in blood.  We already represent some of the very worst aspects of modern football. But it’s multi club that is too far? 

You just can't stop spinning your wheels, can you? Is it possible that you're so high on your own opinions that it's impossible for you to recognise when they're bad. That's not a healthy trait to have, and make for a really tedious discussion. 

 

As for the "examples" you've cited, no, none of these things went unchallenged by the fan base at large. There is a very distinct difference between not caring and recognising that you have zero control over events. Let's say your partner has an affair, sleeps with someone behind your back. You definitely care, but you can't do anything to change the events that have happened. Perhaps you still love them, you have kids, memories, a house, whatever laundry list of emotional attachments that mean you are willing to reconcile things and continue the relationship. An extreme example, granted. Now, your argument is that in this scenario you may as well pimp your partner out at this stage. Tolerating something is essentially the same as advocating for the absolute worst version of events, right? No, that's nonsense. You are nonsensical. Everything you've tried to use as an excuse, to justify your own cynical, corporate capitalist viewpoint is dumb and has no merit. I'll ask again, and for the final time, because I'm starting to lose interest here. Why are you a Newcastle fan? You seemingly have no love for the club or connection on a base emotional level. Wouldn't you be much better served following some other Balance Sheet FC? You present baseless, poorly formed opinions as facts, then spiral off into nonsense when challenged. I can understand if it's just an ego thing, and you get off on sounding clever and talking with authority on topics you know precious little about. But that can, and is, done all across the internet. Why here? Why us? 

[GEFAFWISP]

Isn't his second team Real Madrid? I mean...

[joeyt]

TCD makes it sound like it's an easy decision to just support a lower league club rather than the club you've grown up with and have an emotional connection to

 

You only have to look at the angst and how long it took a for a lot of people giving up their season tickets during Ashley to realise that. Many of whom still continued to go during Ashley because it's not as easy to stop that emotional connection

 

We aren't all still here because of Saudi Arabia. Some of us never left. We're all still here because we have an emotional connection to a club which we wouldn't be able to get if we suddenly decided to start supporting Hartlepool

 

 

Edited September 3, 2025 by joeyt

[joeyt]

Also really think we should stop using the club's ownership statement of them saying they wanted to win the league in 5-10 years when they first started

 

The Premier League and others have done everything possible since that statement to make it impossible

[Lush Vlad]

I see The Contrarian Deadbeat is at it again. Brought a big net with him this week. 

[Mole]

11 minutes ago, joeyt said:

TCD makes it sound like it's an easy decision to just support a lower league club rather than the club you've grown up with and have an emotional connection to

 

You only have to look at the angst and how long it took a for a lot of people giving up their season tickets during Ashley to realise that. Many of whom still continued to go during Ashley because it's not as easy to stop that emotional connection

 

We aren't all still here because of Saudi Arabia. Some of us never left. We're all still here because we have an emotional connection to a club which we wouldn't be able to get if we suddenly decided to start supporting Hartlepool

 

 

 

Aye it's not easy at all, I grew out of love with the game overall which is why I stopped. But it took like a decade from when I first realised I wasn't enjoying this anymore to when I actually was able to move away. What helped me was finding other community and hobbies to replace it. Because that's the thing for most people, it's not just the sport they have to give up, it's the community you build because of it. 

 

For most people the latter just is not worth throwing away just because the people running the game are ruining it for you in whatever way. Something I realized as i got older is finding communities you can be apart of is like so huge in life and that's what football is to most people, it's not just a sport but something you share with friends and family and create relationships through it with people you wouldn't meet otherwise.

 

It's not the only way to find this in life obviously, but that's what football is to a lot of people and asking them to just chuck that away because they are disillusioned with the governance involved in it amongst other things just isn't realistic a lot of the time.

[Troll]

1 hour ago, cubaricho said:

Y’all really need to remember we have an ignore function.  

 

Doesn't really achieve much when every other post is quoting him. 

[cubaricho]

13 minutes ago, Troll said:

 

Doesn't really achieve much when every other post is quoting him. 

Still better than the alternative to be fair.  

[Dr Venkman]

1 hour ago, joeyt said:

TCD makes it sound like it's an easy decision to just support a lower league club rather than the club you've grown up with and have an emotional connection to

 

You only have to look at the angst and how long it took a for a lot of people giving up their season tickets during Ashley to realise that. Many of whom still continued to go during Ashley because it's not as easy to stop that emotional connection

 

We aren't all still here because of Saudi Arabia. Some of us never left. We're all still here because we have an emotional connection to a club which we wouldn't be able to get if we suddenly decided to start supporting Hartlepool

 

Most of us are. Still no idea why he's here as he won't tell us.

[Nucasol]

1 hour ago, GEFAFWISP said:

Isn't his second team Real Madrid? I mean...

[Kid Icarus]

1 hour ago, GEFAFWISP said:

Isn't his second team Real Madrid? I mean...

Maybe it's like when people find out that not only does their cat have a second family, but that it's actually them that's the second family.

[Rod]

2 hours ago, Coco said:

You just can't stop spinning your wheels, can you? Is it possible that you're so high on your own opinions that it's impossible for you to recognise when they're bad. That's not a healthy trait to have, and make for a really tedious discussion. 

 

As for the "examples" you've cited, no, none of these things went unchallenged by the fan base at large. There is a very distinct difference between not caring and recognising that you have zero control over events. Let's say your partner has an affair, sleeps with someone behind your back. You definitely care, but you can't do anything to change the events that have happened. Perhaps you still love them, you have kids, memories, a house, whatever laundry list of emotional attachments that mean you are willing to reconcile things and continue the relationship. An extreme example, granted. Now, your argument is that in this scenario you may as well pimp your partner out at this stage. Tolerating something is essentially the same as advocating for the absolute worst version of events, right? No, that's nonsense. You are nonsensical. Everything you've tried to use as an excuse, to justify your own cynical, corporate capitalist viewpoint is dumb and has no merit. I'll ask again, and for the final time, because I'm starting to lose interest here. Why are you a Newcastle fan? You seemingly have no love for the club or connection on a base emotional level. Wouldn't you be much better served following some other Balance Sheet FC? You present baseless, poorly formed opinions as facts, then spiral off into nonsense when challenged. I can understand if it's just an ego thing, and you get off on sounding clever and talking with authority on topics you know precious little about. But that can, and is, done all across the internet. Why here? Why us? 

Much better put than I would of done. I would have just said "fuck off"! But that's me.

[Fak]

TCD will be proven right (again) in time. 

[Rod]

1 minute ago, Fak said:

TCD will be proven right (again) in time. 

Oh he's always right. About everything. Irritating twat.

[Jaqen]

Impressive for the football section to somehow get even worse after the window closes. Christ 

[wormy]

1 minute ago, Jaqen said:

Impressive for the football section to somehow get even worse after the window closes. Christ 

 

Tbf heading in to an international break almost straight after is no help at all.

[The College Dropout]

I’m not the one decrying that a multi club model or a dodgy relationship with another club will be the straw that breaks the back of my fandom and support. 
 

 

I’m supporting Newcastle United until we are owned by a murderous reg..wait!

 

Theres no large swell of Newcastle fans upset at our ownership on moral grounds. No large demonstrations or walk outs.   We hated the other guy - cos he made our team and club shit. He could’ve ran the most ethical businesses itw and we still would’ve hated him. Because all we care about is NUFC.  Him being a sheisty business owner was just more reason to hate him. 

 

My second team is actually Crystal Palace. Previous majority shareholder and current Chairman is a local fan and businessman, responsible for overseeing the greatest era in the clubs history.  A lot of people on here call him all kind of rude names. Palace have large American ownership but in terms of the PL are one of the cleanest acts. They even manage to field a large number of localist players.  Few of you care. Or rate them as a positive of the modern game. 

 

Lie to yourselves if you want. 

[Coco]

8 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I’m not the one decrying that a multi club model or a dodgy relationship with another club will be the straw that breaks the back of my fandom and support. 
 

 

I’m supporting Newcastle United until we are owned by a murderous reg..wait!

 

Theres no large swell of Newcastle fans upset at our ownership on moral grounds. No large demonstrations or walk outs.   We hated the other guy - cos he made our team and club shit. He could’ve ran the most ethical businesses itw and we still would’ve hated him. Because all we care about is NUFC.  Him being a sheisty business owner was just more reason to hate him. 

 

My second team is actually Crystal Palace. Previous majority shareholder and current Chairman is a local fan and businessman, responsible for overseeing the greatest era in the clubs history.  A lot of people on here call him all kind of rude names. Palace have large American ownership but in terms of the PL are one of the cleanest acts. They even manage to field a large number of localist players.  Few of you care. Or rate them as a positive of the modern game. 

 

Lie to yourselves if you want. 

 

Take your straw man and shove it up your hole, you delusional weirdo. 

[joeyt]

The concept that your second team is in the same division as your main team is completely baffling to me

[Casey]

5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I’m not the one decrying that a multi club model or a dodgy relationship with another club will be the straw that breaks the back of my fandom and support. 
 

 

I’m supporting Newcastle United until we are owned by a murderous reg..wait!

 

Theres no large swell of Newcastle fans upset at our ownership on moral grounds. No large demonstrations or walk outs.   We hated the other guy - cos he made our team and club shit. He could’ve ran the most ethical businesses itw and we still would’ve hated him. Because all we care about is NUFC.  Him being a sheisty business owner was just more reason to hate him. 

 

My second team is actually Crystal Palace. Previous majority shareholder and current Chairman is a local fan and businessman, responsible for overseeing the greatest era in the clubs history.  A lot of people on here call him all kind of rude names. Palace have large American ownership but in terms of the PL are one of the cleanest acts. They even manage to field a large number of localist players.  Few of you care. Or rate them as a positive of the modern game. 

 

Lie to yourselves if you want. 

Will preface by saying I haven't read every single message prior in this little debate. That said:

Morality and ethicality are not the same thing.

 

You'd be hard pressed to find swathes of fans who'll applaud our owners on the merit of morality. Ethically, in the business of football (which is what we all chat shit about), we've been for the most part on the up-and-up (Notthingham Forest swap deal aside perhaps?).

 

Bit silly to say we're all hypocrites and should not able to speak out on other clubs flaunting the rules and spirit of football because our owners record on human-rights are atrocious. Apples and oranges.

 

Should we be happy, accepting, disappointed, or upset at the morals of our ownership? A decision like that is personal, requiring deeper introspection and thoughtfulness than you'll see me opining about on N-O. But since we're here (and presumably fans) discussing football and the business of it, it's fair to point out shite when ya see it.

 

I didn't see anyone being moralistic about multi-club ownership (not even sure how that'd work). That said, if they were then ignore all this pish.

[madras]

1 minute ago, joeyt said:

The concept that your second team is in the same division as your main team is completely baffling to me

The concept of a second team is baffling to me.

[Gottlob]

As always TCD is labouring a point which didn't really need to be made in the first place, but at least it's coherent, whereas I can't agree with Coco's assertion that getting around PSR rules is like pimping out your adulterous wife.