toontownman Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 It's a calculated risk for Rafa. It will end up being an undisclosed fee likely less than 10m. Either Rafa turns around a player that knows him and he knows well or he is too far gone from Bruce and they shift him back out for a few million loss. The potential reward is far greater than the risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papo Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Rafa still wants him: Quote Summer interest in Newcastle United's Sean Longstaff has not gone away and Everton believe he will be available for a cut-price deal in the January window, as he nears the final six months of his contract at St James' Park. The idea of swapping Longstaff for Davies, who remains under contract until the summer of 2023, was proposed but the midfielder was not keen on leaving Goodison and the club believed he held greater market value than Longstaff. https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/james-rodriguez-transfer-everton-january-21648039 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 bruce saying his future has nothing to do with him, and it lies in the hands of those upstairs. useless cunt (bruce that is). if he likes longstaff, has a clear role for him then he should be making sure he is offered a new contract. there's definitl;ey an agenda against the longstaffs. whether either of them are premier league standard can be debated but i dont think they've been treated well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, huss9 said: bruce saying his future has nothing to do with him, and it lies in the hands of those upstairs. useless cunt (bruce that is). if he likes longstaff, has a clear role for him then he should be making sure he is offered a new contract. there's definitl;ey an agenda against the longstaffs. whether either of them are premier league standard can be debated but i dont think they've been treated well. He probably thinks they are the moles, mind he might be right if he did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, huss9 said: bruce saying his future has nothing to do with him, and it lies in the hands of those upstairs. useless cunt (bruce that is). if he likes longstaff, has a clear role for him then he should be making sure he is offered a new contract. there's definitl;ey an agenda against the longstaffs. whether either of them are premier league standard can be debated but i dont think they've been treated well. Spineless cunt won’t even fight to hang onto his players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Looking at the "highlights" from yesterdays game, he's the king of making tackles from behind about two seconds after the opponent has gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, Beth said: Looking at the "highlights" from yesterdays game, he's the king of making tackles from behind about two seconds after the opponent has gone. I’ve noticed a few times he is absolutely hopeless at the cynical hack. It’s like he’s too nice, can’t even trip a man properly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 03/10/2021 at 14:48, Ashley17 said: I’ve noticed a few times he is absolutely hopeless at the cynical hack. It’s like he’s too nice, can’t even trip a man properly He's just too slow. He can probably get up to a decent gallop once he gets in his stride, but takes a second or two to get up and running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Thought this was pretty interesting given how some have been rating his effort levels. I can’t really comment as I’ve barely watched anything more than the Sky highlights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Not surprised to see two Everton CMs at the top of the leaderboard. You could always see that very visibly with us; Diame and Shelvey or Hayden and Ki - or whoever it was - would take turns to come out and hold, then switch and the other comes out while the other holds, a bit like watching doubles partners in tennis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 I just learned that there's an actor called "Sean Biggerstaff" and that's made me laugh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Nice to see that stat on SL considering he hasn't started every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 5 hours ago, St1pe said: Thought this was pretty interesting given how some have been rating his effort levels. I can’t really comment as I’ve barely watched anything more than the Sky highlights. That screenshot brings back fond memories of the league tables you used to get from Shoot (or Match) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Hate to dig folk out but I watched this lad closely yesterday. Utter dog shite , hardly wanted to tackle , happy to run up to players and then do nothing . Offered zero , as many did , however Sean caught my eye all game for his pointless efforts . Needs to be nowhere near the squad unless the “old “ Sean comes back. This version is horrific. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Agree, he’s woeful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 hours ago, GWN said: Hate to dig folk out but I watched this lad closely yesterday. Utter dog shite , hardly wanted to tackle , happy to run up to players and then do nothing . Offered zero , as many did , however Sean caught my eye all game for his pointless efforts . Needs to be nowhere near the squad unless the “old “ Sean comes back. This version is horrific. Watched the game also and have a different view; most, but not all, of his "presses" are efforts to cut out the passing options of the attacker, doing this you limit their possibilities of getting closer to a clear pass/shot. Evrything does not depend on an actual tackle being made. He didnt play well but he wasnt that bad either. We deffo played tighter (less distance) between defence, midfield and attack but this also had the disadvantage of meaning we were tucked into the final third gor the whole game. The first james goal was a classic stretch of the defence through very clever switching of play, added to the fact that nobody really got close enough to him either (lack of fitness as whole team puffing at 60 mins). We actually looked like we might frustrate them with the tacktics. Rafa played this way but much better organised and with clear lines out of defense when in possession. We had no other option yesterday but to play this way... or open up and risk a 9 goal ondlaught. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, buzza said: Watched the game also and have a different view; most, but not all, of his "presses" are efforts to cut out the passing options of the attacker, doing this you limit their possibilities of getting closer to a clear pass/shot. Evrything does not depend on an actual tackle being made. He didnt play well but he wasnt that bad either. We deffo played tighter (less distance) between defence, midfield and attack but this also had the disadvantage of meaning we were tucked into the final third gor the whole game. The first james goal was a classic stretch of the defence through very clever switching of play, added to the fact that nobody really got close enough to him either (lack of fitness as whole team puffing at 60 mins). We actually looked like we might frustrate them with the tacktics. Rafa played this way but much better organised and with clear lines out of defense when in possession. We had no other option yesterday but to play this way... or open up and risk a 9 goal ondlaught. I did say I only focused on Sean as he became noticeable at being shittier than the rest of our midfield . This running around closing lines for passing clearly didn’t work as Chelsea took the piss all match , the ONE time we pressed them in the first half we caused them to put it out for a throw in and the crowd got behind them . WE DID IT ONCE FFS ?♂️ Edited October 31, 2021 by GWN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 He's decline under Bruce has been incredible, he's almost like another player than the one we saw emerge under Rafa, when he first came out he was doing everything from defending and intercepting to forward passes and being a goal threat, now he offers nothing in both attack and defense, and he's incredibly slow in shifting the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, GWN said: I did say I only focused on Sean as he became noticeable at being shittier than the rest of our midfield . This running around closing lines for passing clearly didn’t work as Chelsea took the piss all match , the ONE time we pressed them in the first half we caused them to put it out for a throw in and the crowd got behind them . WE DID IT ONCE FFS ?♂️ I think we all get too distracted by the takeover. The reality is that we have a team of about 90% championship players and 10% prem players, we expect them to stack up against the top team in the prem. And to boot they have lacked any decent strategy/coaching for 2.5 years. Chelsea are playing champions league football and we are playing champions(hip)... I didnt expect anything less than a loss yesterday. The players actually surprised me by reaching 70 mins before caving in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, buzza said: I think we all get too distracted by the takeover. The reality is that we have a team of about 90% championship players and 10% prem players, we expect them to stack up against the top team in the prem. And to boot they have lacked any decent strategy/coaching for 2.5 years. Chelsea are playing champions league football and we are playing champions(hip)... I didnt expect anything less than a loss yesterday. The players actually surprised me by reaching 70 mins before caving in. Our strongest team on paper is as good, if not better than Brighton's and look at where they are in the league. A decent manager could get our strongest 11 playing well. Rafa did with a worse team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, PeepShow4life said: Our strongest team on paper is as good, if not better than Brighton's and look at where they are in the league. A decent manager could get our strongest 11 playing well. Rafa did with a worse team. I would say the following players are decent prem quality: Wilson ASM (but a defensive liability) Almiron Dubs All of the others are only decent in about 50% of their games and the rest are championship at best... We are a relegation candidate that only a superior manager can keep up. i.e. Rafa or similar. JEvery year our rivals improved where our lack of or stupid investment has taken us backwards from where we were with Rafa at the helm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 16 minutes ago, buzza said: I think we all get too distracted by the takeover. The reality is that we have a team of about 90% championship players and 10% prem players, we expect them to stack up against the top team in the prem. And to boot they have lacked any decent strategy/coaching for 2.5 years. Chelsea are playing champions league football and we are playing champions(hip)... I didnt expect anything less than a loss yesterday. The players actually surprised me by reaching 70 mins before caving in. Our “best “ 11 I think most would agree are lower to mid table . I don’t accept we should go out and “expect” defeat , if you give it a press and a go you just might win , yes you will probably get best or draw but playing like that against Chelsea who were themselves injury hit meant with NO attacking intent we were only going to have one result as we can’t defend for toffee and only very good fortune didn’t have us behind in the first half . Im pissed off mate but shouldn’t be , we surrendered from the kick off, it’s just hard to take . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, GWN said: Our “best “ 11 I think most would agree are lower to mid table . I don’t accept we should go out and “expect” defeat , if you give it a press and a go you just might win , yes you will probably get best or draw but playing like that against Chelsea who were themselves injury hit meant with NO attacking intent we were only going to have one result as we can’t defend for toffee and only very good fortune didn’t have us behind in the first half . Im pissed off mate but shouldn’t be , we surrendered from the kick off, it’s just hard to take . I honsetly agree, but i just think if we tried to attack we would have been on the end of a bigger thrashing. Our team cant string three passes together at the moment for whatever reason, only tactics that spring up are get it forward (wings or calum) asap and hope for the best... Sad but true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 That’s my biggest frustration, the fact that we can’t seem to pass the football at all. It’s like the players see the ball as a grenade and want rid of it the second they get it. As much as I hate Shelvey, I’d actually think he would help with at least trying to pass the ball in some way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 was desperate for the longstaff brothers to do well. but have finally come to the realisation that neither are premier league players. so slow and ponderous. sean was literally the worst person to put on chasing a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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