binnsy Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 we all know he's lost the fans ages ago but looking at the body language of some of the players lately, especially ASM, Miggy, Schar it looks like he may be starting to lose the players as well. The daftest thing about him banging on about being a "work in progress" is since the Carabao cup has gone on the back burner till December he's had 5 weeks of no midweek distractions yet despite all that extra time on the training ground we are getting worse all over the pitch, we are a shambles offensively and defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 As frustrating as it is seeing his mates defend him in the media, does the general public really care for the people talking? There’s very few pundits who seem to be universally respected and that certainly doesn’t include people like Lawro, Pardew, Sherwood, Pulis etc. On the other hand Sky have shared enough stats that reflect terribly on Bruce - I really doubt the public ignores them and simply forms their opinion based on some idiot pundits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Why waste any energy on this. Ashley doesn’t give a fuck about what we think. Until there’s a change of ownership there’s no point following this club, we all know that. This is my view also. There's only one thread I have any interest in, although not much hope. The rest of this board (like this club) is pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 As frustrating as it is seeing his mates defend him in the media, does the general public really care for the people talking? There’s very few pundits who seem to be universally respected and that certainly doesn’t include people like Lawro, Pardew, Sherwood, Pulis etc. On the other hand Sky have shared enough stats that reflect terribly on Bruce - I really doubt the public ignores them and simply forms their opinion based on some idiot pundits. People voted for Brexit and the Tories. They'll believe what they're told. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Jacob Murphy not a Wing Back ASM not a Right Forward Almiron not a box to box midfielder. 5-3-2 a load of shit. Get fucked you clown. Not watching that 5-3-2 shit again this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Must be so easy for managers preparing for a game against us, particularly when we're off the back of a win because we'll 100% keep it unchanged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 As frustrating as it is seeing his mates defend him in the media, does the general public really care for the people talking? There’s very few pundits who seem to be universally respected and that certainly doesn’t include people like Lawro, Pardew, Sherwood, Pulis etc. On the other hand Sky have shared enough stats that reflect terribly on Bruce - I really doubt the public ignores them and simply forms their opinion based on some idiot pundits. People voted for Brexit and the Tories. They'll believe what they're told. Can we have one thread were politics can get the fuck off, just one, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Must be so easy for managers preparing for a game against us, particularly when we're off the back of a win because we'll 100% keep it unchanged. Yep. All the opposition have to us watch our last win, see what the opposition did badly, do that a bit less shit and there’s a good chance they’ll win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Jesus - they really are out in force backing him! Some of their comments - bellends! https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/dont-you-think-steve-bruce-19243399.amp?__twitter_impression=true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 A spectacular collapse is always on the horizon with this cunt. I absolutely believe that in top level games where tactics matter, the total absence of any tactical plan put forward by this fat bastard is something that other managers genuinely struggle with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 As frustrating as it is seeing his mates defend him in the media, does the general public really care for the people talking? There’s very few pundits who seem to be universally respected and that certainly doesn’t include people like Lawro, Pardew, Sherwood, Pulis etc. On the other hand Sky have shared enough stats that reflect terribly on Bruce - I really doubt the public ignores them and simply forms their opinion based on some idiot pundits. People voted for Brexit and the Tories. They'll believe what they're told. Can we have one thread were politics can get the fuck off, just one, please. Amen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 As frustrating as it is seeing his mates defend him in the media, does the general public really care for the people talking? There’s very few pundits who seem to be universally respected and that certainly doesn’t include people like Lawro, Pardew, Sherwood, Pulis etc. On the other hand Sky have shared enough stats that reflect terribly on Bruce - I really doubt the public ignores them and simply forms their opinion based on some idiot pundits. People voted for Brexit and the Tories. They'll believe what they're told. Can we have one thread were politics can get the fuck off, just one, please. Amen Don't bring religion into this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 As frustrating as it is seeing his mates defend him in the media, does the general public really care for the people talking? There’s very few pundits who seem to be universally respected and that certainly doesn’t include people like Lawro, Pardew, Sherwood, Pulis etc. On the other hand Sky have shared enough stats that reflect terribly on Bruce - I really doubt the public ignores them and simply forms their opinion based on some idiot pundits. People voted for Brexit and the Tories. They'll believe what they're told. True, but it really doesn’t matter what ignorant people think ultimately. Unfortunately Bruce won’t go soon regardless. I barely even think there’s much point slating fanbases of other teams for their opinions. Chances are they’re better informed on their managers having paid far more attention to their team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 As frustrating as it is seeing his mates defend him in the media, does the general public really care for the people talking? There’s very few pundits who seem to be universally respected and that certainly doesn’t include people like Lawro, Pardew, Sherwood, Pulis etc. On the other hand Sky have shared enough stats that reflect terribly on Bruce - I really doubt the public ignores them and simply forms their opinion based on some idiot pundits. People voted for Brexit and the Tories. They'll believe what they're told. Can we have one thread were politics can get the fuck off, just one, please. Amen Don't bring religion into this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 A spectacular collapse is always on the horizon with this cunt. I absolutely believe that in top level games where tactics matter, the total absence of any tactical plan put forward by this fat bastard is something that other managers genuinely struggle with. Think there might be something in this tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Wilson and Fraser look like they'll both be out a while with hamstring tears. It's so nice to be returning back to the days where the sick bay was always packed nice and full. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Villa fan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Daniel Storey knows his onions! https://www.football365.com/news/premier-league-winners-losers-grealish-solksjaer-arsenal Newcastle’s grim reality The issue is not that Newcastle United lose every week. This would be far easier if they did. They were deserved winners against Everton last weekend. They’re four points behind the top four and seven above a pretty wretched bottom three. They aren’t in any serious danger of being relegated. But then the sanctuary of mid-table offers reason for criticism as well as praise. It should give Newcastle and Steve Bruce a freedom of expression that their manager seems intent to limit. Newcastle to not set up to impose their authority in the opposition’s half but to stymie their threat and hope something positive comes out of it. They seem to win by good fortune and lose by logical design. If that all sounds a bit harsh on Bruce, the numbers back it up. Newcastle rank 20th in the Premier League for shots faced and shots on target faced. They rank 20th on shots taken per game and shots on target managed per game too. They are increasingly reliant on their goalkeeper being brilliant, their opponents missing chances and a determination to grind out points in adversity. That last characteristic is clearly a strength rather than weakness, but it isn’t unreasonable to ask whether Bruce could be doing a little more to make Newcastle a team that at least shows an ambition to attempt free-flowing attacking football. We’re not asking for Total Football here, just an attacking strategy that aims to get the best out of a collection of potentially excellent attacking players. Bruce does now have a reliable centre forward and exciting wide players in Miguel Almiron and Allan Saint-Maximin. But both those wingers are having their spirit broken by the necessity to drop so deep to pick up possession and their place in a team that averages 39% possession and plays more long balls than any other team in the league bar Burnley. It’s something I wrote about here, but watching your team solely on television rather than live in the stadium changes the perception of this style of football. Grabbing an ill-gotten away point despite barely trying to create chances takes on a positive glow when you travel back up the country with your robbed spoils safely locked in the car boot. But watching Newcastle on television provides enjoyment only to the masochist. Football isn’t only about entertainment; it’s silly to say as much. But there does need to be a balance, and when Newcastle are so deliberately blunt in the final third it’s fair to accuse Bruce of missing that balance. Newcastle can dream bigger than this. Bruce can dream bigger than this. They have the players that mean they don’t have to play this way anymore. If Bruce wants to stick to his Plan A, fine. But he can’t feign surprise at the resulting criticism when it fails. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Spot. On. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 He seems to have a lot less support on social media, far less than any other manager I can remember. Obviously there’s still a few but I think fans being made to actually watch the football and not be taken in by the day out is making people see him and our football for what it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 It’s the lack of basic 1 on 1 coaching that annoys me - how many of our players have improved under him? None Compare that to the improvements players made under Rafa - ok, we are comparing a Ferrari to a Lada, but hasn’t this buffoon been in the coaching business for 20+ years? What’s he been doing all these years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Fat cunt. Hate. Wanker. Plum. Cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Daniel Storey knows his onions! https://www.football365.com/news/premier-league-winners-losers-grealish-solksjaer-arsenal Newcastle’s grim reality The issue is not that Newcastle United lose every week. This would be far easier if they did. They were deserved winners against Everton last weekend. They’re four points behind the top four and seven above a pretty wretched bottom three. They aren’t in any serious danger of being relegated. But then the sanctuary of mid-table offers reason for criticism as well as praise. It should give Newcastle and Steve Bruce a freedom of expression that their manager seems intent to limit. Newcastle to not set up to impose their authority in the opposition’s half but to stymie their threat and hope something positive comes out of it. They seem to win by good fortune and lose by logical design. If that all sounds a bit harsh on Bruce, the numbers back it up. Newcastle rank 20th in the Premier League for shots faced and shots on target faced. They rank 20th on shots taken per game and shots on target managed per game too. They are increasingly reliant on their goalkeeper being brilliant, their opponents missing chances and a determination to grind out points in adversity. That last characteristic is clearly a strength rather than weakness, but it isn’t unreasonable to ask whether Bruce could be doing a little more to make Newcastle a team that at least shows an ambition to attempt free-flowing attacking football. We’re not asking for Total Football here, just an attacking strategy that aims to get the best out of a collection of potentially excellent attacking players. Bruce does now have a reliable centre forward and exciting wide players in Miguel Almiron and Allan Saint-Maximin. But both those wingers are having their spirit broken by the necessity to drop so deep to pick up possession and their place in a team that averages 39% possession and plays more long balls than any other team in the league bar Burnley. It’s something I wrote about here, but watching your team solely on television rather than live in the stadium changes the perception of this style of football. Grabbing an ill-gotten away point despite barely trying to create chances takes on a positive glow when you travel back up the country with your robbed spoils safely locked in the car boot. But watching Newcastle on television provides enjoyment only to the masochist. Football isn’t only about entertainment; it’s silly to say as much. But there does need to be a balance, and when Newcastle are so deliberately blunt in the final third it’s fair to accuse Bruce of missing that balance. Newcastle can dream bigger than this. Bruce can dream bigger than this. They have the players that mean they don’t have to play this way anymore. If Bruce wants to stick to his Plan A, fine. But he can’t feign surprise at the resulting criticism when it fails. Whilst the article is correct in a sense, Ashley's the problem, not Bruce. Who would be happy with slightly better football, but still no intention to compete or improve? This club is so fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishops Finger Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 You're right Ashley is the problem but any half decent manager would have us playing much better football with the squad Bruce has. We could be looking at a top half finish, so there's no excusing Bruce either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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