Dave Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Despite losing four in a row and not winning in yonks we're still 12th and most certainly in the pack of shite clubs beneath the top six, Burnley and Watford. Not going to lie, at 2-0 down I was worried but that comeback showed we've got something. We need to get Lascelles back fit, find a way for Merino and Shelvey to play together and buy a striker. Do that and I think we'll be okay. 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Could really do with Everton beating West Ham tomorrow. Probably the best thing thinking long term, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I'm just worried about our ability to score in open play. But if that Leicester-Everton home double-header gives us a win, we can just about scrape by til January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Unless there is major investment in January im certain we are for the drop honestly cant see us being a better team or squad than 3 other teams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Unless there is major investment in January im certain we are for the drop honestly cant see us being a better team or squad than 3 other teams We've been better than 8 other teams so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 The concern is though, that those other teams are likely to invest in January to fix their problems we are not. The comeback tonight was great but at the end of the day, it's another winnable game against a side managed by Gary Megson that we've failed to take 3 points from. We need at least 25 more points, difficult to see us getting close to that unless we start to improve. Having said that all our wins have come against teams we will be in the mix with the bottom three plus Stoke, we've got a bunch of the weaker sides still to play at home too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Could really do with Everton beating West Ham tomorrow. Probably the best thing thinking long term, right? Psychologically we don't want to be going into our toughest month of the season just 3 points clear of the relegation zone. Being 5 points just gives us an extra bit of leeway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 This upcoming month, Leicester (h), Everton (h), West Ham (a) and Brighton (h) should be circled in red as fixtures we need to be taking points from. Anything from the other games is a very welcome bonus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Could really do with Everton beating West Ham tomorrow. Probably the best thing thinking long term, right? Psychologically we don't want to be going into our toughest month of the season just 3 points clear of the relegation zone. Being 5 points just gives us an extra bit of leeway. We don't need Everton finding form before our game with them, fat Sam usually takes a little time to work his "magic", his Palace side lost 5-1 to the Mackems in one of his first games, last season but they will get some new manager bounce. A draw would be the best result in that game I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Could really do with Everton beating West Ham tomorrow. Probably the best thing thinking long term, right? Psychologically we don't want to be going into our toughest month of the season just 3 points clear of the relegation zone. Being 5 points just gives us an extra bit of leeway. We don't need Everton finding form before our game with them, fat Sam usually takes a little time to work his "magic", his Palace side lost 5-1 to the Mackems in one of his first games, last season but they will get some new manager bounce. A draw would be the best result in that game I think. Lost 0-4 to the mackems at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Not sure why people are only just coming to the realisation that no takeover equals relegation now. We've known this for a while now. We have a Championship team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Not sure why people are only just coming to the realisation that no takeover equals relegation now. We've known this for a while now. We have a Championship team. I think we would stay up anyway as long as Rafa didn't walk out. What that means for the long-term future would obviously be another question. Even if the takeover happens it might not be in time to buy players in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 You really think we'll stay up no matter what because we have Rafa? We have one point from Burnley, Bournemouth, Man Utd, Watford and West Brom. That's relegation fodder. Rafa isn't a miracle worker and unless he is backed with signings there's nothing he can do to stop us going back down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 You really think we'll stay up no matter what because we have Rafa? We have one point from Burnley, Bournemouth, Man Utd, Watford and West Brom. That's relegation fodder. Rafa isn't a miracle worker and unless he is backed with signings there's nothing he can do to stop us going back down. I'm with Ian. We stay up with Rafa imo, with the caveat that we can't lose the likes of Merino for many more chunks of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Rafa knows we are shite and hes trying to polish a turd but theres only so much you can do and it will affect his stock massively if we go down with him at the helm for a full season. He doesn't need that on his CV People need to realise we have a championship team in the premier league, we cant score goals and we are now shipping them for fun that only equals one thing I honestly cant see us with this squad and team winning 6 or 7 more games As has been said previously we have taken 1 point from Bournemouth,Burnley,WBA,Brighton,Huddersfield and Watford scoring 2 goals in the process that's seriously fucking shit and relegation fodder make no mistakes about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Rafa has made it clear the team needed improvements in the summer. We have 1 win in what, 8 games? Look at our fixtures, if we aren't in the bottom 3 come the January window I'll be happy. We need signings badly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Worth remembering that Watford in 17th and Southampton in 8th were separated by just six points by the end of last season. Most of the league is dump, it isn't just us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Rafa knows we are shite and hes trying to polish a turd but theres only so much you can do and it will affect his stock massively if we go down with him at the helm for a full season. He doesn't need that on his CV People need to realise we have a championship team in the premier league, we cant score goals and we are now shipping them for fun that only equals one thing I honestly cant see us with this squad and team winning 6 or 7 more games As has been said previously we have taken 1 point from Bournemouth,Burnley,WBA,Brighton,Huddersfield and Watford scoring 2 goals in the process that's seriously fucking shit and relegation fodder make no mistakes about it Those games you've quoted there, we 'just' need to go and beat a decent number of them in the return fixtures. It's by no means impossible like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 About a 5. We just need to put all our eggs in one basket and go for a striker in January, can’t afford not to. Our options elsewhere aren’t great but are probably enough to get us above 3 other teams, providing a forward comes in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Rafa knows we are shite and hes trying to polish a turd but theres only so much you can do and it will affect his stock massively if we go down with him at the helm for a full season. He doesn't need that on his CV People need to realise we have a championship team in the premier league, we cant score goals and we are now shipping them for fun that only equals one thing I honestly cant see us with this squad and team winning 6 or 7 more games As has been said previously we have taken 1 point from Bournemouth,Burnley,WBA,Brighton,Huddersfield and Watford scoring 2 goals in the process that's seriously fucking shit and relegation fodder make no mistakes about it I still don't think we'll go down, simply because Rafa's experience and single minded belief will filter down to the team in the end, polished turd or not. A world class manager is an asset a lot of the other teams down there won't have, and most of them would give their right arms for tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I did put 5 but I'm up to a 4 now that Pardew is West Brom boss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I've gone for a 4. Just think there are too many beatable teams outside the top 6 that means we should, with Rafa in charge, get enough points to stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 It's a bit mad that Wba are 16th despite not winning since the second game of the season. Hopefully they sink like a stone now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 The December games take us beyond the halfway point.We've got 15 points. Anybody see us getting more than 5 points? Chelsea A 0 pts Leicester H 1pt Everton H 0 pts Arsenal A 0 pts West Ham A 1 pt ----half way---- Man City H 0 pts Brighton H 3 pts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 If we pick up more than 6 points in the next 5 games (hopefully not beyond the realms of possibility) I'd be reasonably content going into the second half of the season, providing we spend that rumoured £20m in January/a takeover actually happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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