Robster Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Another day in paradise I see. Not sure about Paradise. Feels like an alternate dimension after reading James' musings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Later perhaps but I haven’t seen a single constructive post as to why relegation won’t be worse for the PL than it will be for us (assuming the PL acted unlawfully, and Ashley would sell at reduced value if he receives a to. Of compo) We're a club who have and will continue to flirt with relegation in the coming seasons, providing we stay up. We don't compete for trophies and we have virtually no household names, certainly none that will enhance 'the product' as the Premier League see it. We will pull in a bigger viewership than say Watford, but that's about all we offer - and it's hardly something the Premier League will be shitting their pants over. On the other hand, we lose our Premier League status, there's no telling how long it'll take us to recover, especially as it looks like Mike will be here for the foreseeable and has lost any remaining interest, by all accounts. If the Premier League were that fussed about our existence they'd have most likely waved through the takeover. I think you're absolutely deluded if you think relegation would be a bigger loss to the Premier League than it would be to us. It isn't even a debate. It’s a compensation loss, not a loss of our presence. I’d value the loss at £150-300m plus any cost risk of us not going straight back up. PL don’t have any money so clubs going to have to pay in the region of at least £10m each and the clubs will inevitably sack the PL board. So it is a massive PL loss. I realise that from the outside looking in there are a number of factors not related to the takeover that will have caused the relegation. It is very easy to say: get a better manager, sign better players etc. But if Players and managers rejected us because they were concerned about job security due to the takeover, or we couldn’t afford players due to having to avoid incurring debt (again due to takeover) then these are objective reasons why a court would accept that the PL caused the relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 The PL will have legal insurance which would likely cover the costs if it came to that, it's not likely to be a case of the clubs having to pay out for it to prevent the PL from being bankrupted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 The PL will have legal insurance which would likely cover the costs if it came to that, it's not likely to be a case of the clubs having to pay out for it to prevent the PL from being bankrupted. They'll lose their no-claims bonus, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I wonder what will happen if this thing is going to the court and as the same time we got relegated? The PL can't go to court with a non member club I assume? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I wonder what will happen if this thing is going to the court and as the same time we got relegated? The PL can't go to court with a non member club I assume? What Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 The PL will have legal insurance which would likely cover the costs if it came to that, it's not likely to be a case of the clubs having to pay out for it to prevent the PL from being bankrupted. They'll lose their no-claims bonus, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Later perhaps but I haven’t seen a single constructive post as to why relegation won’t be worse for the PL than it will be for us (assuming the PL acted unlawfully, and Ashley would sell at reduced value if he receives a to. Of compo) We're a club who have and will continue to flirt with relegation in the coming seasons, providing we stay up. We don't compete for trophies and we have virtually no household names, certainly none that will enhance 'the product' as the Premier League see it. We will pull in a bigger viewership than say Watford, but that's about all we offer - and it's hardly something the Premier League will be shitting their pants over. On the other hand, we lose our Premier League status, there's no telling how long it'll take us to recover, especially as it looks like Mike will be here for the foreseeable and has lost any remaining interest, by all accounts. If the Premier League were that fussed about our existence they'd have most likely waved through the takeover. I think you're absolutely deluded if you think relegation would be a bigger loss to the Premier League than it would be to us. It isn't even a debate. It’s a compensation loss, not a loss of our presence. I’d value the loss at £150-300m plus any cost risk of us not going straight back up. PL don’t have any money so clubs going to have to pay in the region of at least £10m each and the clubs will inevitably sack the PL board. So it is a massive PL loss. I realise that from the outside looking in there are a number of factors not related to the takeover that will have caused the relegation. It is very easy to say: get a better manager, sign better players etc. But if Players and managers rejected us because they were concerned about job security due to the takeover, or we couldn’t afford players due to having to avoid incurring debt (again due to takeover) then these are objective reasons why a court would accept that the PL caused the relegation. I was going g to write a detailed response to this, but it's just so out there I wouldn't know where to start. Safe to say I have as much chance as shagging Margot Robbie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Never give up on your dreams Prophet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I'd love to know why relegation would be worse for the Premier League than it would for us. Cloud cuckoo land man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I'd love to know why relegation would be worse for the Prenier League than it would for us. Cloud cuckoo land man It would be bad for both with Newcastle's following, but yeah of course it affects us far more. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 If this isn't done for next season and we're still in the PL it'll probably be the worst top-flight season we've ever had. Honestly, what fucking hope would we have? Ashley and Bruce still here for another season ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Crow is about to become a popular dish one way or the other Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmintheChaos Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 The pink one is manorpark[/member] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Crow is about to become a popular dish one way or the other The interesting thing I see is that the majority of people want it to go through and think it will, there's just so many bizarre fan-fiction pieces about how and when it will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Crow is about to become a popular dish one way or the other The interesting thing I see is that the majority of people want it to go through and think it will, there's just so many bizarre fan-fiction pieces about how and when it will. Wouldn’t say the majority think it will mind, most certainly do want it, but, in my experience most doubt it will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 We Despiratly need arbitration to sepperate SA from PIF, after the saudis decided against forign club investment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Crow is about to become a popular dish one way or the other The interesting thing I see is that the majority of people want it to go through and think it will, there's just so many bizarre fan-fiction pieces about how and when it will. Wouldn’t say the majority think it will mind, most certainly do want it, but, in my experience most doubt it will. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/new-public-report-blame-saudi-crown-prince-2018-killing-jamal-n1258800?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma Seems like could be a bit significant if Saudi deal still exists somewhere. 'The Biden administration will release an intelligence report Thursday that concludes that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman approved the 2018 killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, three U.S. officials familiar with the matter said.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/new-public-report-blame-saudi-crown-prince-2018-killing-jamal-n1258800?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma Seems like could be a bit significant if Saudi deal still exists somewhere. 'The Biden administration will release an intelligence report Thursday that concludes that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman approved the 2018 killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, three U.S. officials familiar with the matter said.' MBS will never be a named director so unlikely to ever have an impact. Also US intelligence said the Iraqi’s had nuclear weapons, whether you believe this is true or not, it’s not a conviction in an international court of law. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/new-public-report-blame-saudi-crown-prince-2018-killing-jamal-n1258800?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma Seems like could be a bit significant if Saudi deal still exists somewhere. 'The Biden administration will release an intelligence report Thursday that concludes that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman approved the 2018 killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, three U.S. officials familiar with the matter said.' MBS will never be a named director so unlikely to ever have an impact. Also US intelligence said the Iraqi’s had nuclear weapons, whether you believe this is true or not, it’s not a conviction in an international court of law. Cue the many letters to the PL to not let the Saudis takeover us. And no matter what you say that the PL can't go against any rules to disqualify MBS or the Saudis, they will. It's their rules, they make it, they can change it. They've done it to us last year, they'll do it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMTTS Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/24/politics/saudi-top-secret-documents-khashoggi-bin-salman/index.html The filing lays out how ownership of Sky Prime Aviation was ordered to be transferred into the country's $400 billion sovereign wealth fund in late 2017. The company's planes were later used in the October 2018 killing of Khashoggi. The Kingdom's sovereign wealth fund, known as the Public Investment Fund, is controlled by the Saudi crown and is chaired by the crown prince, who is known as MBS. The documents establishing the link between the planes and the prince were filed by a group of Saudi-state owned companies as part of an embezzlement suit they opened last month in Canada against a former top Saudi intelligence official, Saad Aljabri. Planes owned by the Public Investment Fund were used to transport the Khashoggi assassins, on the specific orders of MBS. "fully independent"; "irrelevant"; "nothing the PL can do to stop this" etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 This is completely over. Unless the fat prick sells to someone else, we are stuck with Bruce and him in the championship. Pointless club, totally pointless It’s over for Saudi investment but I think the door is still open to other deals when we’re relegated, especially if staveley wins her case and suddenly have cash for 50% purchase with the young rueben. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 This is completely over. Unless the fat prick sells to someone else, we are stuck with Bruce and him in the championship. Pointless club, totally pointless It is not completely over don't be dramatic guys! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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