Newcastle United 2 - 4 West Ham - 15/08/21 - Post-match reaction from page 18

[Fantail Breeze]

2 minutes ago, jonbobson said:

Glad a handful of "fans" are moaning on a forum, that'll show 'em.

 

This place is getting worse, so called "supporter's" only wanting to comment on what others should or shouldn't do.

 

Not attending (and either moaning or not) will certainly show them more than willingly handing money over to Ashley and giving Bruce ‘support’.

 

Thick as fuck every single person in attendance and very much part of the problem. At this point, if you’re still going then you’re actively destroying your own club.

[Leek]

Ritchie switching off every 5 minutes in the 2nd half. Nobody at HT seemed to pick up on the fact that ASM shouldnt be picking the ball up so deep or atleast without Hayden behind him to cover. On Hayden hes never a box to box midfielder, as much as I like him hes woeful in the final 3rd. Almiron is the same old headless chicken but didnt seem to do as much pressing when we're defending. 

 

Going forward we dont seem to have much of a plan other than let ASM dribble, create some space and make a run off him and go from there, hit a ball early and got Wilson gets it or the 2nd ball, get a corner or give it the full backs and cross.

 

Apart from keepers, Fernandez, Murphy, Hayden, Willock, ASM and Wilson none of these are prem quality. Murphy and Hayden probably arent they just work well in the system.

[KaKa]

7 minutes ago, jackyboy said:

Once ASM is knackered, which is normally after an hour, then we are knackered

 

The frustrating thing is I think Fraser is a decent deputy for him in that role and Fraser also already has a good rapport with Wilson.

 

Once that hour mark hits just get Fraser on for ASM high up the pitch with Wilson. Such an obvious sub.

 

Longstaff could have then come on for Hayden, and Hayden dropping deeper to replace Shelvey who also tires badly around that hour mark.

 

Would have given us a much better chance of getting back up to speed and having a chance to get at them.

[Rod]

1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

Not attending (and either moaning or not) will certainly show them more than willingly handing money over to Ashley and giving Bruce ‘support’.

 

Thick as fuck every single person in attendance and very much part of the problem. At this point, if you’re still going then you’re actively destroying your own club.

Exactly this!

[Yorkie]

I'm not moaning today mind. Happy New season indeed. 

[samptime29]

3 minutes ago, Stottie said:

Big Al and Sir Les reckon the penalty was a joke. I have to say I agree. As fine margins deciding games go, a free penalty is quite a big one. Maybe VAR is not allowed to over-rule Martin Atkinson. His performance also included not booking a player because he was pretending he had cramp.

 

None of the above means we weren't shit second half, because we were. This was the perfect kind of opponent for us, positive enough to come to win but shit at the back and easy to get at, so it's a relatively easy three points missed. Weaker teams will come to St. James and force us to take the initiative, and we know how we struggle with that.

 

Pen was a joke. We were turd 2nd half but it is clearly a massive moment.

[Rod]

1 minute ago, samptime29 said:

 

Pen was a joke. We were turd 2nd half but it is clearly a massive moment.

I agree.  Never a pen but you just knew the officials would bottle it.

[Guest neesy111]

1 minute ago, jonbobson said:

 

And where's the evidence of not attending will do anything?

 

Whether people go or don't, it's not affecting you or others on here, so why slate them?

 

You could also argue that any genuine fan that sits at home/watches in a pub, and just slates others is also ruining the club.

 

Ashley isn't going anywhere soon, Bruce neither, a few snidey digs on a forum is not going to change that.

 

Are you an ostrich? 

[Nobody]

3 shots on target for us. 

[Cronky]

On the plus side, compared to last season, we played with a lot more aggression and passed the ball better. We did carve out quite a few chances.

 

Shelvey did well in that anchor position, which allowed him time and space to use the ball. Unfortunately, he has no pace and can't tackle, so defensively our back three were very exposed. It was alarming how much time and space the West Ham attack had within our penalty area, even in the first half. That was the by-product of not being able to close down their midfield, who were able to feed the ball in at will. 

 

I don't know what the answer is. A player in that anchor position gets a lot of the ball, and it's great if you have a player who can use it. On the other hand, they need to help the defence as well. Willock will improve our attack, so when he's fit, maybe the best bet is to keep trying to play positively and hope it comes off more times than it doesn't.

 

[Thomson Mouse]

Just now, jonbobson said:

 

And where's the evidence of not attending will do anything?

 

Whether people go or don't, it's not affecting you or others on here, so why slate them?

 

You could also argue that any genuine fan that sits at home/watches in a pub, and just slates others is also ruining the club.

 

Ashley isn't going anywhere soon, Bruce neither, a few snidey digs on a forum is not going to change that.

 

Where’s the evidence….   It’s like talking to a Covidiot or climate denier  

 

It’s pretty obvious that if the ground was empty that it would piss the PL off, you don’t need a clinical paper to prove that 

[LV]

3 minutes ago, jonbobson said:

 

And where's the evidence of not attending will do anything?

 

Whether people go or don't, it's not affecting you or others on here, so why slate them?

 

You could also argue that any genuine fan that sits at home/watches in a pub, and just slates others is also ruining the club.

 

Ashley isn't going anywhere soon, Bruce neither, a few snidey digs on a forum is not going to change that.

Guff

[Fantail Breeze]

5 minutes ago, jonbobson said:

 

And where's the evidence of not attending will do anything?

 

Whether people go or don't, it's not affecting you or others on here, so why slate them?

 

You could also argue that any genuine fan that sits at home/watches in a pub, and just slates others is also ruining the club.

 

Ashley isn't going anywhere soon, Bruce neither, a few snidey digs on a forum is not going to change that.

 

Well, that’s never happened, has it? Whereas we have over a decade of people attending that has proven to fix nothing. Maybe it’s time to try something new.

 

It is affecting me if people go. It’s affecting all of us. Because of their own selfishness, they’re ruining our football club for the reasons previously mentioned.

 

As for the final paragraph, that mindset is the problem. He would be going somewhere if he was forced. Look at Man Utd fans vs the ESL for recent example of fans forcing change. Blackpool fans vs Oystons for another.

 

Did you have a nice day though?

 

 

Edited August 15, 2021 by Fantail Breeze

[worthy]

3 minutes ago, jonbobson said:

 

And where's the evidence of not attending will do anything?

 

Whether people go or don't, it's not affecting you or others on here, so why slate them?

 

You could also argue that any genuine fan that sits at home/watches in a pub, and just slates others is also ruining the club.

 

Ashley isn't going anywhere soon, Bruce neither, a few snidey digs on a forum is not going to change that.

 

Imagine this - If they dont get any matchday money, any money from shirt sales etc. This is a decent dent in an already snide run club. Having empty seats whilst being a TV game also shows things. The so called "fans" we have are weak, look at how other clubs deal with shit owners and managers - most of ours are passive pussies.

[Wolfcastle]

2 minutes ago, jonbobson said:

 

And where's the evidence of not attending will do anything?

 

Whether people go or don't, it's not affecting you or others on here, so why slate them?

 

You could also argue that any genuine fan that sits at home/watches in a pub, and just slates others is also ruining the club.

 

Ashley isn't going anywhere soon, Bruce neither, a few snidey digs on a forum is not going to change that.

 

Blackpool

United Supporters For Change

The last 15years here

Law of Diminishing Returns

Free Tickets, club for sale before the Wolves protest, horse and cart after the Spurs boycott - it clearly bothers them

 

 

Edited August 15, 2021 by Wolfcastle

[Menace]

What was todays attendance anyone? Looked like a full house to me.

[Numbers]

Just now, Menace said:

What was todays attendance anyone? Looked like a full house to me.

About 51K

[Guest neesy111]

Just now, Menace said:

What was todays attendance anyone? Looked like a full house to me.

 

50k.

[Disco]

3 minutes ago, Cronky said:

Shelvey did well in that anchor position, which allowed him time and space to use the ball. Unfortunately, he has no pace and can't tackle, so defensively our back three were very exposed. It was alarming how much time and space the West Ham attack had within our penalty area, even in the first half. That was the by-product of not being able to close down their midfield, who were able to feed the ball in at will. 

 

Absolutely peak Cronky this.

[Big Geordie]

Just now, Menace said:

What was todays attendance anyone? Looked like a full house to me.

I saw some empty seats, but I reckon around 50k.

[Guest neesy111]

Just now, jonbobson said:

No, I don't attend, but I don't slate others calling them "cunts" or "mong's" if they do.

 

Their choice, their money.

 

How about, instead of venting all that pent up anger on a forum, yous lot get off your arses and do something about the situation?

 

Oh no, sorry, to much hassle. Best to just watch games on telly and moan online.

 

Get absolutely fucked.

 

Plenty of people on here have tried to organise protests but for it all to be thrown back in their faces and criticised by others.

[Wullie]

A few people didn't go for a few months and he gave away 10,000 season tickets for free.

Aye he's clearly not bothered.

 

So glad I don't have these roundabout unwinnable arguments any more with people who are intent on shoving money into his pocket until the day they die.

[joeyt]

Thought Rice ran the game second half

[Wullie]

2 minutes ago, jonbobson said:

No, I don't attend, but I don't slate others calling them "cunts" or "mong's" if they do.

 

Their choice, their money.

 

How about, instead of venting all that pent up anger on a forum, yous lot get off your arses and do something about the situation?

 

Oh no, sorry, to much hassle. Best to just watch games on telly and moan online.

 

Been there, done that, got a load of grief. You're welcome to it.  

[BennyBlanco]

Jesus Christ. What the fuck has Bruce said at half-time there? Shambolic performance.