Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 37 minutes ago, Pardiola said: Liverpool and City will have nowt to play for by then, man, and fuck fearing Arsenal. Optimistic Not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 7 hours ago, Paullow said: I was 'gubbed', so could only put on like 74p if I wanted to , but Betway's current odds are pretty reassuring. Norwich 2/9 Watford 1/4 Burnley 2/5 Newcastle 11/4 Everton 4/1 Brentford 11/2 Leeds 6/1 Crystal Palace 25/1 https://betway.com/en/sports/evt/7596742 https://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation So despite Palace being 2 points clear of Leeds, and the latter having a game in hand, the bookies generally think they are kind of out of it and more like 7 involved. Teams at the bottom don't get a lot of points so games in hand in less important. Points on the board is important. Any team with more points than games after 23 games is highly unlikely to go down unless their form becomes terminal. Palace realistically need to win 3 games and get 3 draws from their next 15 to stay up. That allows them to lose 9 games (when they've only lost 8 all season). Palace vs Brentford on the weekend is huge. Brentford are in free fall losing 5 in a row and losing 8 of the last 10. But the other 2 are wins. Lose here and they are right in it. Norwich - don't score goals. They can nick a few wins but don't score enough goals to stay up imo. They need a lot of their goals to be decisive which won't happen. Burnley - they really need to start winning. 1 in 20 is horrendous. ARe they good enough to do that consistently? Watford - Can Roy get the attack/defence balance right? They couldn't defend for toffee under Claudio, yet to score a goal with Roy. I think it's these 3 plus us and Brentford (if they lose to Palace). Everton could still go full Kinnear era Newcastle but I don't see it. They're in the less points than games played boat as the rest of the relegation battlers tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 57 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Still think we need the points on the board. We need 7-8 from these, otherwise we’re needing 7-8 from the next run of 4 which involves Chelsea & Spurs. Before you know it there’s 4 games left and we need 7 points from Liverpool, City, Arsenal & Burnley. I dont think if we dont get 7 points from the next 4 then we're down, I think we should still have enough. But the next 4 is a great opportunity to get a decent haul so we should absolutely aim for it. We could pretty much stop looking down if we do that imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: I dont think if we dont get 7 points from the next 4 then we're down, I think we should still have enough. But the next 4 is a great opportunity to get a decent haul so we should absolutely aim for it. We could pretty much stop looking down if we do that imo. Agree, these next 4 are about us putting some space between us and the rest of the dross clogging the drain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 11/2 for Brentford?! All over that. Increasingly confident it'll be them, Watford, Burnley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, r0cafella said: Agree, these next 4 are about us putting some space between us and the rest of the dross clogging the drain. We need that space though because if the gap is only around 3-4 points with 4 games left, it’s going to be scary. We’ve got 12 games to get to around 7 clear for me. We don’t want to be heading into 3 games against top 6 opposition followed by a potential relegation decider on the last day only a few points clear. Quite a bit of deja vu with this time last season actually. Edited February 10, 2022 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: We need that space though because if the gap is only around 3-4 points with 4 games left, it’s going to be scary. We’ve got 12 games to get to around 7 clear for me. We don’t want to be heading into 3 games against top 6 opposition followed by a potential relegation decider on the last day only a few points clear. Quite a bit of deja vu with this time last season actually. Plus games at the end of the season are a lottery. Many sides with nothing to play for will rest players, or if they are one of the big six, it's not conceivable they could chuck games if they think it might get Newcastle relegated. You always get some strange results at the end of the season, so we need to make sure our fate isn't in anyone else's hands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: We need that space though because if the gap is only around 3-4 points with 4 games left, it’s going to be scary. We’ve got 12 games to get to around 7 clear for me. We don’t want to be heading into 3 games against top 6 opposition followed by a potential relegation decider on the last day only a few points clear. Quite a bit of deja vu with this time last season actually. Yup. Need to be at least 4 points ahead of 18th before the Burnley match, or it’ll be an excruciating watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 We need 6 wins and a couple of draws from 16 games, looks achievable based on improvements and getting better by the week. We will piss it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Four wins and a few draws will probably save us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Geordie Ahmed Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 4 hours ago, nufc4eva said: We need 6 wins and a couple of draws from 16 games, looks achievable based on improvements and getting better by the week. We will piss it I'd be surprised if we need another 20 points, think it will take less to stay up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 We've got 3 wins on the board and you more often than not need 9 or 10 for safety. Never this simple like but from our remaining games we should be looking to win; Villa (h) Brentford (a) Brighton (h) Palace (h) Leicester (h) Norwich (a) Burnley (a) I'd fancy us at home against most sides tbh, such as the games I've excluded against Wolves and Arsenal. West Ham we have a decent record away at and we played well against them on the opening day for ≥45 minutes but fell away after an hour due to a bollocks pen they got and the Bruce inspired lack of fitness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: I'd be surprised if we need another 20 points, think it will take less to stay up Aye no way we need that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 I honestly think 32/33 points might even be enough this year, obviously a lot can change yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 11 hours ago, Nine said: I honestly think 32/33 points might even be enough this year, obviously a lot can change yet Aye but that’s for 16/17th. if we could get close to a point per game I would be happy. 36 points surely keeps you up. Burnley intrigue me. They could be gone by the last game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 12 hours ago, HaydnNUFC said: We've got 3 wins on the board and you more often than not need 9 or 10 for safety. Never this simple like but from our remaining games we should be looking to win; Villa (h) Brentford (a) Brighton (h) Palace (h) Leicester (h) Norwich (a) Burnley (a) I'd fancy us at home against most sides tbh, such as the games I've excluded against Wolves and Arsenal. West Ham we have a decent record away at and we played well against them on the opening day for ≥45 minutes but fell away after an hour due to a bollocks pen they got and the Bruce inspired lack of fitness. I think the amount of draws we have skews this slightly, typically teams at the bottom lose a lot but pick up 9 or so wins from somewhere (last year was a complete anomaly). Typically you'd expect that form the 9 games we have drawn so far that 2 would be losses and 1 or 2 would be wins. 6 wins with no draws is likely to be enough, or depending on the who they fall against 4 wins and 4 draws Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 23 hours ago, Anderson said: 11/2 for Brentford?! All over that. Increasingly confident it'll be them, Watford, Burnley. Same. On Oct. 3 they beat West Ham and had 12 points. They picked up another 8 between then and Dec. 10. Since then they have 1 win in 8 (no draws). In the next month they play Palace, Newcastle, Norwich, and Burnley (+Arsenal) with three of those at home. They will be right in it if they don't pick up 4-5 points from those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Big blow for Everton. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60350605 Don't think they have much quality at the back at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/60350605 Quote Everton defender Yerry Mina will be out for up to 10 weeks with a "strong" quad injury, says manager Frank Lampard. Oooof. Might really keep them in the relegation conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 It's always nice to find out who has you on ignore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 30 minutes ago, Dokko said: Big blow for Everton. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60350605 Don't think they have much quality at the back at all. If they’re playing that giraffe every week they’re fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Morning all. 3 big games for us to look at today Everton v Leeds , from what I saw the other night I want Leeds to win Norwich v Man C. , easy one to want Watford v Brighton , this is the big one , Howay Brighton we have had such a run of games go for us we need it to continue , can’t see Watford troubling Brighton , maybe scrape a draw at best , they are just shit . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 5 hours ago, GWN said: Morning all. 3 big games for us to look at today Everton v Leeds , from what I saw the other night I want Leeds to win Norwich v Man C. , easy one to want Watford v Brighton , this is the big one , Howay Brighton we have had such a run of games go for us we need it to continue , can’t see Watford troubling Brighton , maybe scrape a draw at best , they are just shit . Brentford v Palace as well. Brentford are only five points above us and we have two games in hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I think the relegation fear has been a big catalyst alongside the takeover in reenergising my love for the club. The fact that there’s so much riding on every result for us and for a few other teams means that NUFC has gone from something I engaged with at the most basic level (checking results, reading on here) post-Rafa to refreshing this website and following almost everything that’s coming out of the club + watching and listening to other games again. Didn’t think I’d get reeled in again like when I was younger but the relegation fever is definitely helping Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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