McCormick Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Thomson Mouse said: You are being like a 12 year old it’s embarrassing. We started ok, got a decision against and were pretty shit after that, mainly toothless. You’d think it was like playing under Bruce still reading your shite It was though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: Hayden and his flaws is the only one we have capable of offering the needed protection. We are bad so playing with such a midfield away against teams who are better than us is asking for it. It’s the same as the Arsenal game. These teams don’t even have to play well to make us look bad. so JoeLinton, Shelvey, Hayden and Saint Max in midfield Lewis, Fernandez, Shar and Manquillo in defence. Who in attack, Wilson ( I think he needs support) and another? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, ManDoon said: Says the happy clapper, we lost 4-0. Ironic you accuse me of acting like a 12 year old when you lack basic reading comprehension. Had a drink again? Anyway ignore list. Leave it at that Stop biting, man. We were horrific after 10mins and despite have a far superior manager (over Bruce) in Howe, the collection of garbage we have in this team is sending us down. Which, might actually be for the best in the long term. I'm as pissed off as you are at the frustration of reality clouding this team being better. It sucks to suck. We need to give Howe time and money, we'll be better in the not too distant future and most of these nothing players will be gone sooner than later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, Thomson Mouse said: Really, how? I'd suggest a dildo or possibly a long vegetable of some kind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Bonk said: It didn't need to be that embarrassing. The only one I have any empathy for is Howe and the mess our new owners have to unfuck. It's wild that most of these players have been together multiple seasons, yet seemingly have no clue how to play cohesively. What's most disappointing is any optimism that had come from our takeover, is the realization at how garbage our squad, mentality and poorly mismanaged this club has been for most of my adulthood. Thing is if we are going to work on changing the way we play we are going to have to expect some days like this against better teams. Yes Leicester have been struggling, but once I saw Tielemans, Maddison and Barnes were in there I thought his could be a possibility. I think the manager will learn a lot from games like this, and he'll just have to figure out how to set the team up to be better using the ball with the players we currently have. We could have come in today and just sat in Bruce style, but then we likely would have lost by what 2 instead of 4? But then what do you really learn from that? Painful day, but lets see what changes are made in the team going forward now. If it means no more Willock in central midfield I will gladly take that,, because that is the huge issue right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 None of our CMs are good enough. Maybe need 3 of them with Hayden as a ”shield” but that puts Joelinton out of his best position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, loki679 said: I'd suggest a dildo or possibly a long vegetable of some kind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 By the way we were managing the game fine until Shelvey decided to fanny around with it in our third. Seriously he’s got to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 We all know our defensive issues, but we where equally as bad going forward today against a team who can’t defend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: By the way we were managing the game fine until Shelvey decided to fanny around with it in our third. Seriously he’s got to go. He's got three men around him when Lascelles decides to play it to him, mind. They're both thick as pig shit and I won't miss them when they're gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: By the way we were managing the game fine until Shelvey decided to fanny around with it in our third. Seriously he’s got to go. Suicide ball from Lascelles, who has no idea how to pick the right pass, or how to execute a pass correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: By the way we were managing the game fine until Shelvey decided to fanny around with it in our third. Seriously he’s got to go. I was going to say similar, but feared I might get lambasted for saying it, but other then the penalty, I thought we where alright, and probably the overall better team, admittedly while not really doing much going forward up, and then the second went in, and we collectively shit our pants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, KaKa said: Suicide ball from Lascelles, who has no idea how to pick the right pass, or how to execute a pass correctly. With the exception of Wilson, we've got a squad if pig shit thick players who seem like they don't know how to execute instructions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 The pen decision really fucked us over but we didn't play well and deserved to lose. We have nothing in centre midfield and it's a big problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: By the way we were managing the game fine until Shelvey decided to fanny around with it in our third. Seriously he’s got to go. Fanny around ? Re watch it man, he gets it played to him with 3 men on him. Never a pen mind, what is VAR actually for ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: Thing is if we are going to work on changing the way we play we are going to have to expect some days like this against better teams. Yes Leicester have been struggling, but once I saw Tielemans, Maddison and Barnes were in there I thought his could be a possibility. I think the manager will learn a lot from games like this, and he'll just have to figure out how to set the team up to be better using the ball with the players we currently have. We could have come in today and just sat in Bruce style, but then we likely would have lost by what 2 instead of 4? But then what do you really learn from that? Painful day, but lets see what changes are made in the team going forward now. If it means no more Willock in central midfield I will gladly take that,, because that is the huge issue right now. Amazing post, @KaKa and couldn't agree more. Those 3 players are class and could easily undo our leaky defence at a stroll (as we saw). I should blame myself for building up hope we'd build on our only win. If we do go down, I think Willock would be a player who could benefit from a season down there. I'm not ready to completely write him off, but on current form, nothing warrants him being in the starting 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, KaKa said: Suicide ball from Lascelles, who has no idea how to pick the right pass, or how to execute a pass correctly. We will look tighter defensively without Shelvey in the team. His offensive play isn’t up to much either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 These lot will struggle to score on an empty pitch, completely impotent again today, our best chance came from one of their players ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 choice of pass is our major weakness. We are trying to thread precise balls when coming out of defence, giving it away and 5-10 seconds later a goal goes in. Manquillo ball to Murphy for the 3rd goal - case in point. Its a pass that if it does come up, gives us no advantage at all. Screws the pass up and 3 passes later - Leicester score. Our passing has been weak for years but boy we can't even do 5-10 yard passes now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Yeah, I really like Howe, and think long term he is the answer. I just personally think that he's making a mistake by persisting with this midfield two, and I personally think we will go down. If we cant turn up in a crucial game, where a team has a CM in CB, and is knackered from midweek, has been shipping goals all over the shop, that is extremely worrying to me. I'm a fan ffs, of course im emotional during a game. Fwiw I fully agree with everything you write here. Edit: with the caveat that I think it's very possible we can stay up if we manage to strengthen midfield and defence in January. Edited December 12, 2021 by Conjo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, madras said: Fanny around ? Re watch it man, he gets it played to him with 3 men on him. Never a pen mind, what is VAR actually for ? Let's be honest here. Dubravka, Lascelles and Shelvey, all 3 played their part. We shouldn't have been fucking about with it in that area to start with. All 3 are guilty of not getting rid of it. You can't always play out from the back. Especially when you're as shit on the ball as we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Well that was wank, fucking abysmal performance and everyone of them and the manager needs a head shake if this is their output against a team in dire form themselves and totally beatable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandrotastico Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: We will look tighter defensively without Shelvey in the team. His offensive play isn’t up to much either. I'm no fan of Shelvey, but Lascelles looked like he was passed a Nuclear Bomb from Dubs, and quickly threw it to Shelvey with 3 men round him and facing his own goal. The blame falls on the captain and whoever coached him in his career. He's not a footballer, he's slow and cumbersome in every aspect of his game and championship at best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, KaKa said: He'll learn some harsh lessons from today. Has to be very clear now he needs to figure out a midfield combo to get us through to January. Shown a lot of faith in Willock, but he just can't be trusted with a role in a central pair as things are at the minute. Howe hasn't showed so far that he's learnt any lessons, why are you now convinced he will? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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