TheBrownBottle Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Skeletor said: Also he is one off being the all-time highest direct free kick goal scorer in the PL of all time. "Decent" indeed. He's almost on a par with Seb Larsson's GTG ratio in terms of FKs in the PL. And we all would have dreamed of Larsson running around in our midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, McCormick said: Covers the most distance of any pl player in the league for the third season running. I’ll give you that he may not be the most athletic but he certainly has “the legs”. I changed my post straight after almost as it didnt read tight. He might have the stamina but with Bruno i would prefer a player that is slightly more athletic. Also think that long term we can use the money better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 minute ago, TRon said: So why is it none of the bigger clubs have made a bid for him do you think? They were asking for silly money? Didn’t want to leave? Who knows. His ability is unquestionable though, imo anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, KaKa said: I think people just see Southampton struggling and see his freekicks on match of the day and so think that's all he does. They are not watching games outside of the top teams. He's a quality player. Hope he gets a decent move because he definitely deserves to be able to really showcase his game in matches that more people actually watch. Yeah, you're right. You know what I've seen and what I've not seen - forgot about that. Condescending load of shite mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: He must have just had off days against us, then. As I thought he did absolutely fuck all the three times we played them. He probably couldn't handle our aggressive press in midfield. The dead balls give him plenty of time to gather his composure and take his time, maybe in the heat of live play he gets lost a bit in the midfield scrum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, McCormick said: In what way is he not complete? Close control? Check Passing? Check check Vision? Check check Stamina/ graft? Check check Defensive ability? Check (ish) Long distance shooting? Check Leadership: check set piece ability? Check check check I’d say his only weakness is elite athleticism (in terms of pace and power) otherwise I’d say he’s pretty complete. I'll go with the set piece ability. The rest? Sorry, I don't agree - and at 28 there's little that could be improved with coaching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I'll go with the set piece ability. The rest? Sorry, I don't agree - and at 28 there's little that could be improved with coaching. Passing and stamina you wouldn’t agree with? I’d argue he doesn’t need extensive coaching and can come in and do well almost instantly. Anyway, appears we’ll have to agree to disagree here mate Edited March 26, 2023 by McCormick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, McCormick said: Passing and stamina you wouldn’t agree with? I’d argue he doesn’t need extensive coaching and can come in and do well almost instantly. Anyway, appears we’ll have to agree to disagree here mate Yep - we'll be linked with approx. 400 players between now and September, so god knows who we'll end up with in any case Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Won't be surprised if Liverpool pick him up on the cheap when Southampton go down. Similar to when they signed Henderson and Wijnaldum. Could see him easily doing just as well as those two did for them. Gini in our midfield under MClaren was usually invisible and only showed up when he was scoring. At Liverpool he was part of a midfield three with Henderson that was key to them winning the Prem and the Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 13 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: This will please @Ikon Him, Joelinton and Bruno would brutalise some midfields. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Yeah, you're right. You know what I've seen and what I've not seen - forgot about that. Condescending load of shite mate. I didn't address you specifically with that post. I've heard these takes on Ward Prowse a fair bit, about how he is just a dead ball specialist. When I watch the games I don't see that at all. In an even half decent team with a better role, ideally in a midfield three, it would be so much more clear that he's a very good player. Someone is going to get a great deal there. It will probably be Liverpool, as he would be in line with the likes of Henderson, Gini and Milner, who were all really savvy signings for them that contributed massively to the trophies they've won under Klopp. Edited March 26, 2023 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, KaKa said: Won't be surprised if Liverpool pick him up on the cheap when Southampton go down. Similar to when they signed Henderson and Wijnaldum. Could see him easily doing just as well as those two did for them. Gini in our midfield under MClaren was usually invisible and only showed up when he was scoring. At Liverpool he was part of a midfield three with Henderson that was key to them winning the Prem and the Champions League. On the cheap? The article above says his price would be £40m+ after relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) Don’t see Liverpool going for JWP at all. If anything they will be looking to get the age down of their squad. Very unlikely! Edited March 26, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Just now, Manxst said: On the cheap? The article above says his price would be £40m+ after relegation. I doubt that very much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) The only Southampton midfielder I’d be taking at these prices quoted would be Lavia. The only 3 British midfielders I want us entertaining in the summer are Maddison , Rice and Bellingham. Edited March 26, 2023 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ikon said: Don’t see Liverpool going for JWP at all. If anything they will be looking to get the age down of their squad. Very unlikely! Same age as Milner when they signed him. Similar profile too, as he has a similar engine and fitness. Edited March 26, 2023 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Now this would be a horrendous move. I admire his agent's optimism though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, KaKa said: I didn't address you specifically with that post. I've heard these takes on Ward Prowse a fair bit, about how he is just a dead ball specialist. When I watch the games I don't see that at all. In an even half decent team with a better role, ideally in a midfield three, it would be so much more clear that he's a very good player. Someone is going to get a great deal there. It will probably be Liverpool, as he would be in line with the likes of Henderson, Gini and Milner, who were all really savvy signings for them that contributed massively to the trophies they've won under Klopp. Fair dos, apologies Kaka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, KaKa said: I doubt that very much. Me too. For the alleged price of a JWP, you could get a Milenkovic-Savic. I’m sure the club knows who is the more ‘complete’ midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, KaKa said: Same age as Milner when they signed him. Similar profile too, as he has a similar engine and fitness. Yeah. But when they signed Milner the rest of the team wasn’t as old as now I bet (average age) I see them going for high quality players now with plenty of years ahead of them. Not spending quite a bit of money on players that won’t bring the average age down. Edited March 26, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Just now, Manxst said: Me too. For the alleged price of a JWP, you could get a Milenkovic-Savic. I’m sure the club knows who is the more ‘complete’ midfielder. Another player we wouldn't have a chance of signing at this stage. Just google Milenkovic-Savic and have a look at the types of clubs he is typically linked with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 In a team that struggles to score enough goals we need to get Bruno who carries both a goal and assist threat much further forward IMO and neither JWP or McTominay would allow us to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Ikon said: Yeah. But when they signed Milner the rest of the team wasn’t as old as now I bet (average age) I see them going for high quality players now with plenty of years ahead of them. Not spending quite a bit of money on players that won’t bring the average age down. I think they will sign both types as they will need a number of new central midfielders. If Southampton go down I also don't think they will be asking for what that article claims they will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 I don’t think JWP is a bad player, certainly rather him than Mctominay. However I’m also certain we can and should be aiming for a lot better than either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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