Still not worthy of a thread

[Guest]

Actually forgot all about him. 

[James]

7 minutes ago, OCK said:

Sometimes I like to make myself feel miserable as a Newcastle fan by thinking of the players we let go before they got a chance. 

 

GK: Forster

RB: Tavernier

CB: Bradley Orr

CB: Huntington

LB: Mbabu

MID: Beardsley
MID: Merino
MID: Viana
FW: Armstrong
FW: Toney
FW: Thauvin

 

Bench: Darren Huckerby, Bobby Clark, 

 

I put Beardsley in as we released him as kid  

 

 

 

Jon Dahl Tomasson, Giuseppe Rossi

[James]

Also, what do you mean Beardsley never got a chance?

[Guest]

He was released and did some strange around the world trip with a stop over at Man U before rejoining Newcastle 

[kingxlnc]

21 minutes ago, OCK said:

Sometimes I like to make myself feel miserable as a Newcastle fan by thinking of the players we let go before they got a chance. 

 

GK: Forster

RB: Tavernier

CB: Bradley Orr

CB: Huntington

LB: Mbabu

MID: Beardsley
MID: Merino
MID: Viana
FW: Armstrong
FW: Toney
FW: Thauvin

 

Bench: Darren Huckerby, Bobby Clark, 

 

I put Beardsley in as we released him as kid  

 

 

 

Other than Steven Taylor and Dummet, both of whom have had too many chances for us it shows we cannot produce any decent CBs. 

 

It’s not the greatest XI, you could arguably put in Carrick over Beardsley due to recency. Shows we haven’t produced much at all in the academy in over 30 years. You could also put Vuckic or Bigrimana in there but then you could say they did get a chance.

 

Wonder what happened to all those highly rated youngsters in Carr’s time, Oliver Kemen, Zamblera, Aaron Spear etc. The fact not even one of them made it to any decent level shows how poor our youth set up has been. 

[Yorkie]

2 hours ago, OCK said:

Sometimes I like to make myself feel miserable as a Newcastle fan by thinking of the players we let go before they got a chance. 

 

GK: Forster

RB: Tavernier

CB: Bradley Orr

CB: Huntington

LB: Mbabu

MID: Beardsley
MID: Merino
MID: Viana
FW: Armstrong
FW: Toney
FW: Thauvin

 

Bench: Darren Huckerby, Bobby Clark, 

 

I put Beardsley in as we released him as kid  

 

Got a pretty fair crack didn't he? Not like he ever went onto being a PL-standard player. Same with Orr; the limit very much mid-table Champo.

 

There's very few CBs who I regret us losing tbf, so if you've chucked them in to fill gaps in the team I wouldn't argue.  There's probably only Distin I can think of but wasn't that on him rather then us not wanting him? Can't remember. Was a bit of a shame that Bassong was here when he was, but again he never exactly pulled you any trees in his career. Yanga-Mbiwa another one who was just here under the wrong regime maybe? Just looked him up and looks like his career went to pieces, only 33 but been without a club for a couple of seasons. 

[Wolfcastle]

That team not being very good surely takes the sting out of it though.

 

[The Butcher]

Have that such a pointless tackle. 

 

Even the commentators were shocked. 'pero, por que?' 

 

[gbandit]

Absolutely vile tackle, deserves to be banned for as long as the opposition player is out 

[The Butcher]

Decent fred about the Glazers

 

[Ben]

Not stolen, perfectly legal in the capitalist society we live in 

[number37]

30 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

Have that such a pointless tackle. 

 

Even the commentators were shocked. 'pero, por que?' 

 

There was an article the other day on the BBC Sport site that had a load of images to represent and portray the 30 years of the Premier League and one of them was this: 

 

 

I'm absolutely, 100% glad that tackles like this are no longer part of the game (as that one in the above video should be) but there's just that small part of me that can almost admire what's happening, which is probably not the phrase I mean, but when it's Eric Cantona coming up against Peter Reid, what is it that we're reasonably expecting to happen? It's almost majestic how Peter Reid leaps like the out of place and out of time salmon he is. It encapsulates the ending of one era and the start of a new one as Cantona glides by (hopefully, I assume). 

[NE27]

Their club, they can do what they want, that was the line for us under Ashley.

 

These people are parasites and they're destroying (or at least attempting) institutions.

[Dr.Spaceman]

[elbee909]

Just watching a replay of the Man City match. It makes me realise how I hate match commentators these days. It's just endless clichés, very little actual insight.

 

"Isn't it amazing how the best players are good?" etc.

 

 

 

Edited August 22, 2022 by elbee909

[Ben]

54 minutes ago, elbee909 said:

Just watching a replay of the Man City match. It makes me realise how I hate match commentators these days. It's just endless clichés, very little actual insight.

 

"Isn't it amazing how the best players are good?" etc.

 

 

 

 

Sky did a championship commentary on Friday night and Neil Warnock joined them, it was a bit like the cricket where they are having a conversation about the game as its going on and it worked really well.

[Stifler]

Are the Man Utd owners really that bad though. Yeah ok none of us agree with how they bought the club, but it’s not like they are Ashley and aren’t allowed to spend their own money.

The players who have been bought have largely been rated when they were bought. Pogba was classed as the worlds best CM at the time. Maguire was rated provided he maintained the form he had for England during the World Cup. Sanchez is rated as one of the best up coming talents. Even the managers have been highly rated, only Moyes wasn’t rated as highly. What he did with Everton was amazing though, and he was SAF’s choice.

Ok the stadium needs TLC, but has done for long before they came in.

 

If Man Utd’s players were performing as they should have been and been up there with Man City and Liverpool, no Man Utd fan would be kicking off. I dare say it, if it was Chelsea and Arsenal/Spurs at the top instead of Man City and Liverpool, then their fans would be a lot quieter as well.

 

It’s a bit of gut puncher that they claim they are really bad owners when all the clubs in Greater Manchester (Bolton and Wigan included) aside from Man City have well and truly been fucked over bad owners.

[Ben]

33 minutes ago, Stifler said:

Are the Man Utd owners really that bad though. Yeah ok none of us agree with how they bought the club, but it’s not like they are Ashley and aren’t allowed to spend their own money.

The players who have been bought have largely been rated when they were bought. Pogba was classed as the worlds best CM at the time. Maguire was rated provided he maintained the form he had for England during the World Cup. Sanchez is rated as one of the best up coming talents. Even the managers have been highly rated, only Moyes wasn’t rated as highly. What he did with Everton was amazing though, and he was SAF’s choice.

Ok the stadium needs TLC, but has done for long before they came in.

 

If Man Utd’s players were performing as they should have been and been up there with Man City and Liverpool, no Man Utd fan would be kicking off. I dare say it, if it was Chelsea and Arsenal/Spurs at the top instead of Man City and Liverpool, then their fans would be a lot quieter as well.

 

It’s a bit of gut puncher that they claim they are really bad owners when all the clubs in Greater Manchester (Bolton and Wigan included) aside from Man City have well and truly been fucked over bad owners.

It seems like the power vacuum that was left after Fergie went has turned very toxic with no one person in charge  that seems to have left little cliques. It's obvious to see that the players are an undisciplined bunch that are selfish wankers. They need a huge clean out.

[Cf]

Time to put my dinosaur hat on. Was watching the end of the Leeds game yesterday and since when has it been "Person of the Match"? Thought it was just the commentator being daft but then the on screen graphic said it too. 

 

Sorry if giggs

 

edit: might have been Player of the Match. 

 

 

Edited August 22, 2022 by Cf

[KDT]

2 hours ago, Ben said:

Sky did a championship commentary on Friday night and Neil Warnock joined them, it was a bit like the cricket where they are having a conversation about the game as its going on and it worked really well.

 

Warnock was great, he basically just told stories about how he had tried to sign every player on the pitch.

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

1 minute ago, KDT said:

 

Warnock was great, he basically just told stories about how he had tried to sign every player on the pitch.

Also said he turned down managing the mackems in 1992 as well.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Cf said:

Time to put my dinosaur hat on. Was watching the end of the Leeds game yesterday and since when has it been "Person of the Match"? Thought it was just the commentator being daft but then the on screen graphic said it too. 

 

Sorry if giggs

 

edit: might have been Player of the Match. 

 

 

 

 

You have to pay to use Man of the Match, so there's been a gradual change over to Player of the Game/Match for a few years now. 

 

https://news.sky.com/story/man-of-the-match-catchphrase-trademark-sold-10469445

[Rafalove]

3 hours ago, Stifler said:

Are the Man Utd owners really that bad though. Yeah ok none of us agree with how they bought the club, but it’s not like they are Ashley and aren’t allowed to spend their own money.

The players who have been bought have largely been rated when they were bought. Pogba was classed as the worlds best CM at the time. Maguire was rated provided he maintained the form he had for England during the World Cup. Sanchez is rated as one of the best up coming talents. Even the managers have been highly rated, only Moyes wasn’t rated as highly. What he did with Everton was amazing though, and he was SAF’s choice.

Ok the stadium needs TLC, but has done for long before they came in.

 

If Man Utd’s players were performing as they should have been and been up there with Man City and Liverpool, no Man Utd fan would be kicking off. I dare say it, if it was Chelsea and Arsenal/Spurs at the top instead of Man City and Liverpool, then their fans would be a lot quieter as well.

 

It’s a bit of gut puncher that they claim they are really bad owners when all the clubs in Greater Manchester (Bolton and Wigan included) aside from Man City have well and truly been fucked over bad owners.

 

 

They’re terrible. They know nothing about football and are taking money from the club. Even if they don’t need much more for transfers that money could be put in to infrastructure or community programs.

[Tiresias]

3 hours ago, Stifler said:

Are the Man Utd owners really that bad though. Yeah ok none of us agree with how they bought the club, but it’s not like they are Ashley and aren’t allowed to spend their own money.

The players who have been bought have largely been rated when they were bought. Pogba was classed as the worlds best CM at the time. Maguire was rated provided he maintained the form he had for England during the World Cup. Sanchez is rated as one of the best up coming talents. Even the managers have been highly rated, only Moyes wasn’t rated as highly. What he did with Everton was amazing though, and he was SAF’s choice.

Ok the stadium needs TLC, but has done for long before they came in.

 

If Man Utd’s players were performing as they should have been and been up there with Man City and Liverpool, no Man Utd fan would be kicking off. I dare say it, if it was Chelsea and Arsenal/Spurs at the top instead of Man City and Liverpool, then their fans would be a lot quieter as well.

 

It’s a bit of gut puncher that they claim they are really bad owners when all the clubs in Greater Manchester (Bolton and Wigan included) aside from Man City have well and truly been fucked over bad owners.

 

Yeah if you took back all their spending on players and spent it wisely they should be winning the league and champions league. The neglect of the stadium is criminal, and that debt may become an issue one day. The thing is I think signing players with big social media presence is part of the business plan, they want to make biggest social media engagement with signings to keep the money rolling in for marketing. I was reading about how their scouting department is actually big and they like to boast about how big a database of players they have, but then they ignore that completely so they're a total waste of time. Mentioned scouts watching teams feeling like doesn't really matter if they spot a gem nothing will happen, it's a weirdly pointless situation. Just sort of performatively doing what a football club should do and then trying to sign Rabiot instead (and then being shocked when he's a pain to deal with and they can't get it done)

[The College Dropout]

3 hours ago, Stifler said:

Are the Man Utd owners really that bad though. Yeah ok none of us agree with how they bought the club, but it’s not like they are Ashley and aren’t allowed to spend their own money.

The players who have been bought have largely been rated when they were bought. Pogba was classed as the worlds best CM at the time. Maguire was rated provided he maintained the form he had for England during the World Cup. Sanchez is rated as one of the best up coming talents. Even the managers have been highly rated, only Moyes wasn’t rated as highly. What he did with Everton was amazing though, and he was SAF’s choice.

Ok the stadium needs TLC, but has done for long before they came in.

 

If Man Utd’s players were performing as they should have been and been up there with Man City and Liverpool, no Man Utd fan would be kicking off. I dare say it, if it was Chelsea and Arsenal/Spurs at the top instead of Man City and Liverpool, then their fans would be a lot quieter as well.

 

It’s a bit of gut puncher that they claim they are really bad owners when all the clubs in Greater Manchester (Bolton and Wigan included) aside from Man City have well and truly been fucked over bad owners.

The proof is in the pudding. They are terrible owners.

 

With mega resources - the team has been awful for over a decade. They've not put together a competent leadership and management framework.

 

You can't judge owners by £££ spent in the transfer market - especially when a club has significant revenue and spending power. Ultimately, you just owners by results and club stature. Since Fergie left, the club has gone backwards in every department.

 

Of PL club owners - Glazers would rank close to the bottom.

 

Man Utd, Everton, perhaps Villa are the only clubs with Owners / Leadership that have under performed.