Mikky Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, aussiemag said: Paulinha, Olise and Gibbs-White please. Paulinha - think we can go abroad and get a quality 6 for a 3rd of the price Fulham would want Edited December 31, 2023 by Mikky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflap Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, TRon said: Is Bruno doing well in the DM role though? When we are on the ball he's great, but if we lose it the defence tends to look badly exposed against teams with pace up front. Bruno in that role which is his best puts a greater emphasis on the balance of the rest of the midfield and makes Big Joe a must in there. Miley for all his talents doesn't have the physical profile yet. Leaves us short creatively with Longstaff needed in there as well for his running but unfortunately that's what Tonali was signed for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 28 minutes ago, TRon said: Is Bruno doing well in the DM role though? When we are on the ball he's great, but if we lose it the defence tends to look badly exposed against teams with pace up front. You're right, we do lose out defensively when he's played there, which was why I used the term 'anchor role'. I think the problem is that, at Premiership level, you can't afford to have a player in that role who is limited to winning the ball. They will tend to get a lot of possession, and if they can't get the ball forward or support the attack when the chance arises, then too many opportunities are wasted. So despite his defensive limitations, Bruno is not easily replaced in that position. And to complicate things further, when in possession, he may be more effective with his team mates in front of him, where his passing and reading of the game come to the fore. There is speculation about how it would be better to free him up to receive the ball in more forward positions, but it's hard to tell how well that would work. FWIW, I think that Phillips is a bit more than a defensive player, so maybe if he comes, it'll be with a view to the two of them regularly alternating positions in the course of the game. Where that might all leave Tonali is a moot point, of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, Cronky said: You're right, we do lose out defensively when he's played there, which was why I used the term 'anchor role'. I think the problem is that, at Premiership level, you can't afford to have a player in that role who is limited to winning the ball. They will tend to get a lot of possession, and if they can't get the ball forward or support the attack when the chance arises, then too many opportunities are wasted. So despite his defensive limitations, Bruno is not easily replaced in that position. And to complicate things further, when in possession, he may be more effective with his team mates in front of him, where his passing and reading of the game come to the fore. There is speculation about how it would be better to free him up to receive the ball in more forward positions, but it's hard to tell how well that would work. FWIW, I think that Phillips is a bit more than a defensive player, so maybe if he comes, it'll be with a view to the two of them regularly alternating positions in the course of the game. Where that might all leave Tonali is a moot point, of course. I agree. Phillips is ideal because not only is he a great shield he also has an outrageous long past on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Cronky said: You're right, we do lose out defensively when he's played there, which was why I used the term 'anchor role'. I think the problem is that, at Premiership level, you can't afford to have a player in that role who is limited to winning the ball. They will tend to get a lot of possession, and if they can't get the ball forward or support the attack when the chance arises, then too many opportunities are wasted. So despite his defensive limitations, Bruno is not easily replaced in that position. And to complicate things further, when in possession, he may be more effective with his team mates in front of him, where his passing and reading of the game come to the fore. There is speculation about how it would be better to free him up to receive the ball in more forward positions, but it's hard to tell how well that would work. FWIW, I think that Phillips is a bit more than a defensive player, so maybe if he comes, it'll be with a view to the two of them regularly alternating positions in the course of the game. Where that might all leave Tonali is a moot point, of course. I think genuine DMs can do more than just tackle. Diame was underrated when he was here IMO, same goes for Tiote who fans slagged off for trying to do too much on the ball when I think he ended up doing stuff because everyone else wasn't moving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 50 minutes ago, Cronky said: You're right, we do lose out defensively when he's played there, which was why I used the term 'anchor role'. I think the problem is that, at Premiership level, you can't afford to have a player in that role who is limited to winning the ball. They will tend to get a lot of possession, and if they can't get the ball forward or support the attack when the chance arises, then too many opportunities are wasted. So despite his defensive limitations, Bruno is not easily replaced in that position. And to complicate things further, when in possession, he may be more effective with his team mates in front of him, where his passing and reading of the game come to the fore. There is speculation about how it would be better to free him up to receive the ball in more forward positions, but it's hard to tell how well that would work. FWIW, I think that Phillips is a bit more than a defensive player, so maybe if he comes, it'll be with a view to the two of them regularly alternating positions in the course of the game. Where that might all leave Tonali is a moot point, of course. I’d take a midfield three of: Bruno - Phillips - Tonali Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Don’t know if this is a wind up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 What do you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, BeloEmre said: What do you think? There is always hope ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, nufcnick said: Don’t know if this is a wind up He’s a personal trainer follow him on Twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, nufcnick said: Don’t know if this is a wind up Fake Craig Hope too man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Bantz aside, just imagining the mass forum suicide if our next signing is another fullback Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, TRon said: I think genuine DMs can do more than just tackle. Diame was underrated when he was here IMO, same goes for Tiote who fans slagged off for trying to do too much on the ball when I think he ended up doing stuff because everyone else wasn't moving. Diame had so much more to his game than Tiote who amazed us all in the beginning largely due to the fact he was so much better than the utterly useless Alan Smith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Wouldn't call Diame a DM either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Can’t say I’m very excited about this window. Would love for us to bring in a surprise name but if it’s Phillips and a GK to tide us over then it’s going to be a bit of a gutter. My main hope is that we land a RW but with our FFP it’s hard to believe that will happen this window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Any chance there's a few quid available by selling some of the loan lads? Saw some report we're terminating Hayden's loan at Liege because there's Champo clubs after him. Not sure what the terms are of Fraser's loan? Clutching and not going to be big money but if it unlocks a small release clause or loan fee etc it could make a difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 hours ago, aussiemag said: Paulinha, Olise and Gibbs-White please. Circa 150-180m. No chance. Much better value abroad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Gibbs-White is the signing you make for £40-45m, he'd cost £60m+ to get now and whilst he's good he's not that good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 4 hours ago, Ronaldo said: Diame had so much more to his game than Tiote who amazed us all in the beginning largely due to the fact he was so much better than the utterly useless Alan Smith. What was annoying about Tiote was that he ended up demanding the ball because others around him didn't. But yes, Diame wasn't a DM as such, he was just a good midfielder who did his job at both ends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Less than an hour until the transfer avalanche starts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 35 minutes ago, Ben said: Less than an hour until the transfer avalanche starts Wondering how my bath will survive an avalanche Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 We signed any fucker yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 7 minutes ago, nufcnick said: We signed any fucker yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 I loved Mo Diame. And so did Rafa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 7 hours ago, Ronaldo said: Diame had so much more to his game than Tiote who amazed us all in the beginning largely due to the fact he was so much better than the utterly useless Alan Smith. Alan Smith, a player that summed up Ashley perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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