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6 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Trying to slowly yes. It's not as if this Isak thing happened yesterday. We are slow and this is a chronic issue across the club and we also limit ourselves to a limit ourselves to a very limited pool of players. 

We limit ourselves because Howe wants to be as certain as he can that whoever he brings in is the right fit for the group.

 

We have one of the best hit rates I've ever seen so it's hard to argue with his methods.

 

We need to replace Wilson with a potential 20 goal a season striker ready to go next season, it's a hard task but hopefully it's sorted before the window closed 

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4 hours ago, madras said:

What do you think a DoF could have done differently from whats happened ? Gone after lower grade players from the start ?

 

Ive said it before but here I go again. If someone on here posted at the end of May that we had a list of Delap, Pedro, Ekitike, Sesko, Wissa and Strand Larsen,  the vast majority on here would have said we'd get at least one of them.

 

The circumstances that the snake has created is what has driven this window the way it has and Im not sure what a DoF or anyone else could have done differently.

 

You would like to think a DOF would be more experienced in doing deals, getting them set up earlier, having better contacts etc. Nothing wrong with the players we have chased, but we have spent far too long going down blind alleys after players who we should have been aware were the cartel clubs were in for as well. You don't want to be scrabbling about throwing higher and higher bids for players you didn't really want in the first place because time is running out. I mean if a DOF isn't ahead of the game there, then what's the point of one? 

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On 25/08/2025 at 16:36, The Prophet said:

Let's take a look at the market. £55 million is the benchmark for a winger with any form of productivity.

 

The striker market is an even smaller pool with the top end of the market at £70 million to £80 million for young, unproven names.

 

Larsen is a Premier League striker for 14 goals and 4 assists, with his best years in front of him. 

 

There's absolutely no way a striker of that pedigree, in this market, with us being in the position of desperation we're in is going on the cheap.

 

 

 

Still this.

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Strand Larsen is not worth 60m. Not 50, but he might be worth 40. He is a good player, but nowhere near Sørloth or Isak. But as an expensive replacement for Isak he will do just fine. With some Howe treatment who knows how good he can get.

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I know we’re desperate and our standards have really lowered, but I fear this is one we will regret spending serious money on. 
 

Understand the timing and Isak situation will add ££ to any striker we sign now, but spending north of £50m on JSL - the third choice striker for Norway - is frankly absurd.

 

I know I’ve had a whinge about our scouting system this summer but I refuse to believe there isn’t a player that’s much better value (even as a stopgap) overseas. 
 

Selling Isak and spending about half of what we get on JSL would be silly. Spending £100m+ on him & Wissa would  be suicide. 

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3 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said:

Can't we just fucking ask them what they want and then either offer it or move on. Why are transfers like this. It doesn't happen in any other line of business.

I have a feeling we’ve been quoted anything between 65 and 70 million. Not sure they even sell for 60 in the last week of the window to be honest.

 

There is a difference here whereby the player isn’t a cunt and is happy to keep playing for them. However, it absolutely shows selling Isak for under 150 in the last week of the window would represent capitulation on our part.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

We limit ourselves because Howe wants to be as certain as he can that whoever he brings in is the right fit for the group.

 

We have one of the best hit rates I've ever seen so it's hard to argue with his methods.

 

We need to replace Wilson with a potential 20 goal a season striker ready to go next season, it's a hard task but hopefully it's sorted before the window closed 

I hear what your saying but spending 60m on your back up striker is mad. Especially when that striker has some limitations. I totally understand shooting big if he's going to be our 9 but judging by what your saying that isn't the case. 

 

It's just a mad fee and an overpay. 

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4 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said:

Can't we just fucking ask them what they want and then either offer it or move on. Why are transfers like this. It doesn't happen in any other line of business.


Sounds like a great way to have your eyes gouged out of your head.

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3 minutes ago, matta said:

Strand Larsen is not worth 60m. Not 50, but he might be worth 40. He is a good player, but nowhere near Sørloth or Isak. But as an expensive replacement for Isak he will do just fine. With some Howe treatment who knows how good he can get.

How do so many fans on here have the ability to value players? What’s the formula you’re using? 

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2 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

How do so many fans on here have the ability to value players? What’s the formula you’re using? 

Osimhen went for 65m pounds. Do you think JSL is as good as him? 

 

Not an exact science but given the last just went for 30m doubling that is obviously an overpay. 

 

That being said. I do understand the sentiment of your post. 

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2 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

How do so many fans on here have the ability to value players? What’s the formula you’re using? 

Educated guess I’d imagine. I still agree spending 100million plus on Wissa and Larsen at this stage would be madness.

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7 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I hear what your saying but spending 60m on your back up striker is mad. Especially when that striker has some limitations. I totally understand shooting big if he's going to be our 9 but judging by what your saying that isn't the case. 

 

It's just a mad fee and an overpay. 

Didn't Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs and Man U pay about the same for their back up striker? 

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4 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I hear what your saying but spending 60m on your back up striker is mad. Especially when that striker has some limitations. I totally understand shooting big if he's going to be our 9 but judging by what your saying that isn't the case. 

 

It's just a mad fee and an overpay. 

Back up strike in what way.

Currently we have 1 striker that are on strike who say he will never play for us again and a very raw prospect.

 

We need a striker in, label him as backup or 2nd choice what ever, the striker we buy will most likely be our first choice for at least 6 months.

 

Just get it done.

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7 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

How do so many fans on here have the ability to value players? What’s the formula you’re using? 

 

Aye its mad.

 

We just signed a CM who was a squad player at his previous club for 40m :lol:

 

Its also about what his current club value him at.

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12 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said:

 

Understand the timing and Isak situation will add ££ to any striker we sign now, but spending north of £50m on JSL - the third choice striker for Norway - is frankly absurd.

Tbf their first choice striker is arguably the best in the world, so it’s not really the biggest negative.

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Getting a PL proven striker less than a week before deadline day from a fellow PL club who don't want to sell said player and will then be left scrambling for a replacement themselves is never a situation which is going to result in a bargain.

 

How we've ended up in this situation where we're still running around with our arses on fire trying to replace Wilson is a completely different matter which we can all dissect at the end of the window.

 

But for now, if Eddie wants him, that's good enough for me, he's done enough to earn our trust with transfers.

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16 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Still this.

Agree. But if this is correct isn’t Isak undervalued at 150. It’s a bit like trading a 3 bed semi in Jesmond “which needs some work” for a Darras Palace with 6 Bedrooms, a swimming pool and a tennis court. You’d expect to pay more than double.

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7 minutes ago, Pearljam10 said:

Didn't Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs and Man U pay about the same for their back up striker? 

Want to post the revenue of those clubs and or the willingness to to circumvent psr?

 

We are kinda at a villa esque cross road it would appear whereby we overpay for a player who won't improve much. Don't get me wrong he's a steady player and I do like him but he's the kind of player we have to be prepared to take a hair cut on later. He will have the ability to ask for a canny wedge given he's got his prem proven badge. 

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9 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Osimhen went for 65m pounds. Do you think JSL is as good as him? 

 

Not an exact science but given the last just went for 30m doubling that is obviously an overpay. 

 

That being said. I do understand the sentiment of your post. 

 

Napoli were actively looking to move Osimhen since last year.

 

Strand Larsen's fee was an obligation clause from last year. Without that his previous club is asking more money for him.

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Just now, KaKa said:

 

Napoli were actively looking to move Osimhen since last year.

 

Strand Larsen's fee was an obligation clause from last year. Without that his previous club is asking more money for him.

Yeah but those are transacted prices. Every transfer has a story

 

If JSL better than forum favourite Jaoa Pedro?

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