Disco Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, LFEE said: Was discussing this with some mates and we all thought it’d be great location and like you say look stunning. City centre enough and would breathe a bit of life into that part of town, still wouldn’t want to move though. Wouldn’t feel right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 It’s an absolute no to move out of town, a different city centre location is a maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just take over this whole area and get it done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 The bars down that way would get some different clientele to usual, like. I'd be all for it. Imagine the noise travelling up and down the river as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 If it was Spurs quality. It’d be a reluctant but definite yes from me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: Just take over this whole area and get it done. Imagine pulling in on the train as it slows down. Be great for away fans as the 1st thing they see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Coffee_Johnny said: If it was Spurs quality. It’d be a reluctant but definite yes from me. Spurs is unbelievable, best stadium I’ve been to. Including Camp Nou and Bernabeu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 No move, not ever. It's an essential part of what it is to support Newcastle for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rich said: The bars down that way would get some different clientele to usual, like. I'd be all for it. Imagine the noise travelling up and down the river as well. Loads of football lads out down the scene, be class. Get some boats on from the Tyne Bridge and a needless landmark foot bridge over to the staithes, for absolutely no practical reason, and you’re sorted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, Kid Icarus said: No move, not ever. It's an essential part of what it is to support Newcastle for me. agreed. we haven't even come close to maximising the potential of SJP as it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Spurs is unbelievable, best stadium I’ve been to. Including Camp Nou and Bernabeu. Camp Nou is a shit hole, but such an iconic stadium. The best I’ve been to is the Emirates. I’d be 100% against a move away from SJP! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) Council should be bending over backwards to accommodate a new stadium considering the extra revenue it would bring to the city on a matchday. You’re potentially into the millions. Edited June 28, 2022 by Sima Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Bit academic when the owners have already said we won’t be moving, but IMO if you could extend the Gallowgate to 65k I think that would be sufficient. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) Spurs stadium is alright but the only thing stopping it being like any other boring modern stadium is that it's plonked more or less where the old one is so retains some of the identity. Large new build stadiums are nearly always shite atmosphere vacuums full of too many tourists - and that is no different. Edited June 28, 2022 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comegetasample Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Why can't we just relocate Leazes Terrace brick by brick to the Arena site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 I just really don't like large new build stadiums. From my experience they're universally soulless and crap. An architects firm can't augment the layers of history and context that comes from having a stadium develop over a hundred years on the same site surrounded by the same streets. They're created in the imagine of the modern game. Built to maximise corporate income, concessions, and enhance the 'matchday experience'. I get it because it drives income which is necessary. But personally I have no time for it. The atmosphere is sucked out of the ground by the design and ultimately the nature of matchgoers in stadia of that size. And I honestly couldn't care less about 'matchday experience' in terms of food and drink etc. If you have any sense there's a thousand other places in the city that are better. Should be 90 mins of footy and out. There's some decent new build grounds at non-league and lower league level as there's no intent for them to be anything other than what they are. But even then they're often ruined by the chosen location which is completely disassociated from the town they serve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: I just really don't like large new build stadiums. From my experience they're universally soulless and crap. An architects firm can't augment the layers of history and context that comes from having a stadium develop over a hundred years on the same site surrounded by the same streets. They're created in the imagine of the modern game. Built to maximise corporate income, concessions, and enhance the 'matchday experience'. I get it because it drives income which is necessary. But personally I have no time for it. The atmosphere is sucked out of the ground by the design and ultimately the nature of matchgoers in stadia of that size. And I honestly couldn't care less about 'matchday experience' in terms of food and drink etc. If you have any sense there's a thousand other places in the city that are better. Should be 90 mins of footy and out. There's some decent new build grounds at non-league and lower league level as there's no intent for them to be anything other than what they are. But even then they're often ruined by the chosen location which is completely disassociated from the town they serve. Bang on, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 30 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: No move, not ever. It's an essential part of what it is to support Newcastle for me. Not when people are missing out it's not though. If St James can be extended to 62,000 (I think the cost would be too much for such a small increase and we don't have a Wembley to totally redesign the whole stadium) then fair enough, but when supporters are missing out, then it's time to have a major rethink. I agree with others it needs to be central though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 50 minutes ago, NEEJ said: It looks brilliant where it is. Beautiful but lop-sided and unable to be extended. We've got the potential for a whole new generation of fans to be locked out and miss out on experiences the majority of us took for granted. Time to think bigger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomYam Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 My tune remains the same. I'd wholeheartedly support a move on the condition that: 1. The stadium is built in the city centre. The Arena site is ideal as it's very close to the station, there's plenty of room for ancillary buildings, parking, decent infrastructure and has a spectacularly prominent riverside location. The economic boost to this part of town would be immense. 2. The stadium is of outstanding design. A capacity of 75,000 would be ideal. 3. The vacant site at St.James's Park is largely incorporated into an extended Leazes Park. I believe Newcastle has fewer trees and less public park space than any other large city in the UK and this would go some way to ameliorating that woeful statistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Beautiful but lop-sided and unable to be extended. We've got the potential for a whole new generation of fans to be locked out and miss out on experiences the majority of us took for granted. Time to think bigger. Let's see what's possible at SJP first, before we bin off 130 years of history for something shinier, eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Not when people are missing out it's not though. If St James can be extended to 62,000 (I think the cost would be too much for such a small increase and we don't have a Wembley to totally redesign the whole stadium) then fair enough, but when supporters are missing out, then it's time to have a major rethink. I agree with others it needs to be central though. It's not what? An essential part of being a Newcastle fan for me? I understand the urge to want to move and get more fans in and it's always framed as being for kids and low cost tickets etc, but I've said it before, judging by other clubs it's much more likely that fans and kids actually end up being priced out and the demographics of those at matches changing to corporates, tourists, and the middle class than it becoming more inclusive. Then it ends up that you've sacrificed the the heart and soul of the club for nothing. Edited June 28, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, Kid Icarus said: It's not what? An essential part of being a Newcastle fan for me? I understand the urge to want to move and get more fans in and it's always framed as being for kids and low cost tickets etc, but I've said it before, judging by other clubs it's much more likely that fans and kids actually end up being priced out and the demographics of those at matches changes. The essential part for being a fan to me is the team and the support first and second with the ground third. Wasn't having a go at you as everyone is entitled to their opinion, and as I said if they can increase the stadium then fine (I think it will not be cost effective though). When you have so many fans who were going for 1,000 tickets and many more who didn't meet the criteria, then something has to be done (this is before anything major has happened also in terms of actual success). I was a season ticket holder from when the east stand opened until the season before Rafa left. Yeah maybe some will say I should have kept my ticket (even though I hated everything the club had become - most on here though were having digs at people who did go), but the fact I may struggle to get a match by match ticket never mind a season ticket due to the size of the stadium, means (in my opinion) that something has to be done. Look at the option of increasing the current stadium first, but if that's not feasable, then a new centrally located stadium needs to be found. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infatuation Junkie Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 I'm happy as long as it is in Newcastle. The club isn't rinsed of ambition and the supporters are given pure passion 24/7. I has been an exhausting ride. One that nearly had me chuck in the towel completely. Ashley totally fuked my head up. So I really can't be arsed chowing on about a move. If we move we move. End of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Dokko said: Imagine pulling in on the train as it slows down. Be great for away fans as the 1st thing they see. Never mind pulling up on the train. Could build a giant jetty and pull up on a boat ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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