Steve McClaren

[jdckelly]

bit odd they're being so persistent in chasing him but if they know who they want they know who they want. All in all I'm not unhappy with him coming in but it doesn't exactly cause much joy either

[Segun Oluwaniyi]

Here and elsewhere the sudden change in tone, in the last day or so, of the many trying desperately to convince themselves and others that this is a good appointment. It's indicative of where we are as a club and a fan base and where we shall remain as a club.

Reality isn't based solely in your opinion. I simply believe that McClaren is good at his job (not a revolutionary world class talent, but overly competent and very experienced), which is not a statement that has anything to do with the state of the club. It a statement which exists in a vacuum. Whether or not he will be able to have an impact on the malaise the club currently finds itself in is something that depends on a litany of other factors.

[newsted]

So we begged him and begged him, even when we knew he was with someone else, and only when he got dumped did he say "OK, I'll give it a go". Then added "After I've been away for a bit". This will end well.

 

We need a stern father.

[afar]

Here and elsewhere the sudden change in tone, in the last day or so, of the many trying desperately to convince themselves and others that this is a good appointment. It's indicative of where we are as a club and a fan base and where we shall remain as a club.

Reality isn't based solely in your opinion. I simply believe that McClaren is good at his job

 

His last for employers disagreed strongly with you, the last two being clubs in a lower division to us. You really couldn't make this shit up. It's embarrassing to be a NUFC fan now, this is a gutless appointment, and there is simply nothing to be excited about.

[Dave]

I like McClaren, tbh. I think he will do fairly well here if given good players and/or the finances to pursue talent. Also, a much better face for the club than the Pardew character.There are obviously still persistent  and deep issues with the way NUFC is operated, but the manager's seat will have it's best occupant since September 2008, imo.

 

 

Yes, I agree.

 

Also key is that we now have a manager in tune with Carr.

 

There can therefore be no excuses for not getting players in, and on time, and then having them used properly.

 

The first thing to see is whether recruitment improves drastically, now there should be no more discord behind the scenes.

 

Yeah but

 

It’s not a case of someone getting the job because he’s a friend of a friend or he knows someone.

 

[Weezertron]

Wonder if Carver will stand by his promise to not stay on unless as manager?

[Vinny Green Balls]

I highly doubt that lickspittle shaved taint will stick to his guns.

[ElDiablo]

I'm going back into emotional hibernation after a brief awakening thanks to the Vieira link. See you in a few years!

[Danh1]

I like McClaren, tbh. I think he will do fairly well here if given good players and/or the finances to pursue talent. Also, a much better face for the club than the Pardew character.There are obviously still persistent  and deep issues with the way NUFC is operated, but the manager's seat will have it's best occupant since September 2008, imo.

 

 

Yes, I agree.

 

Also key is that we now have a manager in tune with Carr.

 

There can therefore be no excuses for not getting players in, and on time, and then having them used properly.

 

The first thing to see is whether recruitment improves drastically, now there should be no more discord behind the scenes.

 

Yeah but

 

It’s not a case of someone getting the job because he’s a friend of a friend or he knows someone.

 

 

Jade Goody talking shite, there's a surprise.

[Ketsbaia]

Jade Goody :lol:

[Teasy]

Here and elsewhere the sudden change in tone, in the last day or so, of the many trying desperately to convince themselves and others that this is a good appointment. It's indicative of where we are as a club and a fan base and where we shall remain as a club.

 

Are people really changing their tone?  There are people here who have argued from the start that he wouldn't be a terrible appointment.  I think everyone agrees we should do better though, that hasn't changed either afaics.

[KaKa]

I like McClaren, tbh. I think he will do fairly well here if given good players and/or the finances to pursue talent. Also, a much better face for the club than the Pardew character.There are obviously still persistent  and deep issues with the way NUFC is operated, but the manager's seat will have it's best occupant since September 2008, imo.

 

 

Yes, I agree.

 

Also key is that we now have a manager in tune with Carr.

 

There can therefore be no excuses for not getting players in, and on time, and then having them used properly.

 

The first thing to see is whether recruitment improves drastically, now there should be no more discord behind the scenes.

 

Yeah but

 

It’s not a case of someone getting the job because he’s a friend of a friend or he knows someone.

 

 

It's not even that their friends for me, but that they respect each others work.

 

McClaren will value Carr's ability, and will better appreciate the players being brought in, and will be more involved in tha process, and have discussions with him about how to maximise their performances when they join, rather than keep harping on about Bent and Tomkins like that previous idiot did.

 

Okay the setup hasn't worked so far, but from my viewpoint that was largely down to Pardew's lack of real ability or ingenuity.

 

Carr has been trying to get in the kind of players we want to see, but the manager had no interest in ever trying to play the football we want to see. it was a major disconnect.

[chicago_shearer]

Begging Steve fucking McClaren to take the job three times.

 

Glad he accepted. 4 times might have been humiliating.

[Hanshithispantz]

Since we've seen so many Derby opinions, here are some Forest ones: http://www.forestforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=43520

 

Pretty telling that the lads who disagree with his sacking are the ones who say shit like "Derby are getting ahead of themselves"

 

Aye Derby, get back in your box.

[Vinny Green Balls]

Begging Steve fucking McClaren to take the job three times.

 

Glad he accepted. 4 times might have been humiliating.

 

Melissa McCarthy agreeing to go out with you on the 4th time of asking.

[B-more Mag]

It's just the same shit all over again. It this point it's lunacy to expect Ashley to change. We're not going to get a hungry young manager with a penchant for attractive football. Even if we did, for the sake of argument, every transfer window would be the same low ball offers, stringing things out to the last minute, and the window closing with needs left unmet. There is no use listening to any words that come out of Ashley's mouth or his puppets' mouths. It's all proven to be so much watery stool.

 

[afar]

And so begins the Ryder propaganda,sorry if this has already been posted:

 

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steve-mcclaren-wins-praise-man-9384470

[Mike]

Wonder if Carver will stand by his promise to not stay on unless as manager?

 

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[nemtizz]

He said that? Oh god, please.

[Deuce]

Here and elsewhere the sudden change in tone, in the last day or so, of the many trying desperately to convince themselves and others that this is a good appointment. It's indicative of where we are as a club and a fan base and where we shall remain as a club.

 

[henke]

I wanted Garde but I'm not pissed off at signing McClaren. Out of all the managers we've been linked with he's arguably the man best suited to reap rewards from the way the clubs transfer policy works.

 

I think if Carr could hand McClaren another group of players equal in quality to Cabaye, Debuchy, Yanga Mbiwa, Ben Arfa, Marveaux, Santon, etc then I'd do a 180 degree turn and buy a season ticket for next year.

 

So assuming McClaren signs, we now have a manager who can work within our transfer policy. He should be able to get the most out of our current squad, or at least more than Pardew did. And he isn't a grade a cunt who makes you want to punch the telly every time he comes on.

 

I'd be reasonably happy with the appointment if Mike Ashley would spend the rest of the summer NOT selling the likes of Sissoko,  but bringing in proven quality players to play along side him. But let's face it that ain't happening.

[Deuce]

I wanted Garde but I'm not pissed off at signing McClaren. Out of all the managers we've been linked with he's arguably the man best suited to reap rewards from the way the clubs transfer policy works.

 

I think if Carr could hand McClaren another group of players equal in quality to Cabaye, Debuchy, Yanga Mbiwa, Ben Arfa, Marveaux, Santon, etc then I'd do a 180 degree turn and buy a season ticket for next year.

 

So assuming McClaren signs, we now have a manager who can work within our transfer policy. He should be able to get the most out of our current squad, or at least more than Pardew did. And he isn't a grade a cunt who makes you want to punch the telly every time he comes on.

 

I'd be reasonably happy with the appointment if Mike Ashley would spend the rest of the summer NOT selling the likes of Sissoko,  but bringing in proven quality players to play along side him. But let's face it that ain't happening.

 

Come on, man. Even if by some miracle that were to happen, you know damn well they'd all be sold off again within a season or two and the cupboard would be as barren as it is now.

 

I'm not in a position to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't do regarding season tickets, having never been a holder myself, but I can't imagine a world in which I'd buy in while Ashley is still the owner.

[Vinny Green Balls]

This club's search for a manager is akin to a homeless dude's search for dinner in a Denny's dumpster

[toontownman]

What a depressing state of affairs. Nothing has changed. Cheap best option we can get that is British and mates with existing staff.

 

Pros                                                                                          Cons

 

Works well with youth and has a reputation for it                      Doesn't possess an inspiring personality which is sorely needed to unite fans back to the club

Can attract players here                                                            Won't be a pull for the best players

Is an upgrade on Pardew                                                            Isn't an upgrade on most of the other names linked

Has won something and in this league                                      Has failed at all but two of his managerial roles

Will hopefully bring Steve Round back with him                        Will almost 100% have no issue working with Carver, Stone and Woodman

Likes to play free flowing attacking football                                Pardew also liked to play free flowing football at Reading, Charlton and West Ham.

Knows the area                                                                        His teams have bottled pressure situations at the majority of his positions.

Knows the superiors well                                                          Has as recently as January gone on record to say he hates working under the type of system we have.

[henke]

I wanted Garde but I'm not pissed off at signing McClaren. Out of all the managers we've been linked with he's arguably the man best suited to reap rewards from the way the clubs transfer policy works.

 

I think if Carr could hand McClaren another group of players equal in quality to Cabaye, Debuchy, Yanga Mbiwa, Ben Arfa, Marveaux, Santon, etc then I'd do a 180 degree turn and buy a season ticket for next year.

 

So assuming McClaren signs, we now have a manager who can work within our transfer policy. He should be able to get the most out of our current squad, or at least more than Pardew did. And he isn't a grade a cunt who makes you want to punch the telly every time he comes on.

 

I'd be reasonably happy with the appointment if Mike Ashley would spend the rest of the summer NOT selling the likes of Sissoko,  but bringing in proven quality players to play along side him. But let's face it that ain't happening.

 

Come on, man. Even if by some miracle that were to happen, you know damn well they'd all be sold off again within a season or two and the cupboard would be as barren as it is now.

 

I'm not in a position to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't do regarding season tickets, having never been a holder myself, but I can't imagine a world in which I'd buy in while Ashley is still the owner.

 

Thats what I was getting at. McClaren is no world beater but he's definately an improvement on Pardew. But it wouldn't matter if we'd signed Garde, Jemez, or Mourinho for that matter if Mike Ashley is still throttling the life out of the club.