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  On 18/02/2014 at 14:22, tgarve said:

Apparently been training with U18s according to Lee Ryder

 

Better team with a better manager tbh.

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  On 18/02/2014 at 14:28, Geordie Ahmed said:

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Apparently been training with U18s according to Lee Ryder

 

Surely not, Pardew doesn't freeze anyone out

 

Ahaha, he never said he doesn't freeze anyone out this season though did he?  He meant there might be a vague possibility he'll not freeze people out in a coming season yet to be determined.

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Thought Marveaux looked ok when he came on. Asked for the ball all the time and looked far more comfortable and technical than anyone that had been on for the rest of the game. He probably didn't track back enough for the 4th goal like Hatem so is getting all the flack.

 

What Pardew forgets is that we were already well beaten long before he brought both of them on. Not to mention the nerve of the guy to slag them off for not coming on and saving his ass after he had left both on the bench.

 

Ben Arfa in particular has come on and had some excellent cameos this season and yet every single time he is back on the bench for the next game. How much motivation and desire can you expect from a player in that scenario?

 

I expect both players to probably not even be in the squad for the Villa game.

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His man-management skills are wank like. He's paid to manage his squad and get the best out of each of them on the park and he's failing miserably.

 

Anyone who doesn't fit into his dinosaur way of playing the game just gets tossed aside in favour of graft. Running, working, jumping, running, covering, working, tackling, running etc. 

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Hatem ripped Villa apart last time, and i would expect him to do it again if Pardew played the same way as Villa dont defend well.

 

Pathetic stuff from Pardew all this. So so gutless.

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  On 18/02/2014 at 14:39, Ian W said:

I find this one hard to believe, even though I accept Pardew loves cloggers more than creative types. It doesn't make sense on any level, except if Marveaux spat in his face in training or something. Very weird.

 

Not Pardew's fault is what you mean ?

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I imagine he layed into them and they both, rightly, gave it back in defending themselves. Which has now lead to a Bellamy-Souness type deal, where to the detriment of the team, Pardew's ego won't allow him to back down and admit he's in the wrong.

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  On 18/02/2014 at 14:50, alexf said:

I imagine he layed into them and they both, rightly, gave it back in defending themselves. Which has now lead to a Bellamy-Souness type deal, where to the detriment of the team, Pardew's ego won't allow him to back down and admit he's in the wrong.

 

If Marv & HBA don't play i'm certain Pardew will end up getting sacked by the end of the season for two reasons. Firstly, they'll be on a combined 60-100k a week, that's a lot of value wasted to Mike. Neither will be easy to shift for good/decent money either. Secondly, we need both of them to have a decent end to the season. Without them, we are sure to get closer to the chasing pack and finish 11th again.

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  On 18/02/2014 at 14:43, bimpy474 said:

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I find this one hard to believe, even though I accept Pardew loves cloggers more than creative types. It doesn't make sense on any level, except if Marveaux spat in his face in training or something. Very weird.

 

Not Pardew's fault is what you mean ?

 

No, not at all, I just find it genuinely hard to fathom. Like I saw, I know he's a lover of the hard working player but I just don't think there's any possible way he can actually believe that Marveaux did anything wrong in the last game. Guess we don't know what happened exactly, the result is extremely weird though.

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  On 18/02/2014 at 15:00, The College Dropout said:

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I imagine he layed into them and they both, rightly, gave it back in defending themselves. Which has now lead to a Bellamy-Souness type deal, where to the detriment of the team, Pardew's ego won't allow him to back down and admit he's in the wrong.

 

If Marv & HBA don't play i'm certain Pardew will end up getting sacked by the end of the season for two reasons. Firstly, they'll be on a combined 60-100k a week, that's a lot of value wasted to Mike. Neither will be easy to shift for good/decent money either. Secondly, we need both of them to have a decent end to the season. Without them, we are sure to get closer to the chasing pack and finish 11th again.

 

I think Pards used them when we were short in numbers, but now Tiote and Remy are back he probably feels it's safe to give them the cold shoulder again. He doesn't rate them and I doubt they rate him. Pardew will stick with the players who he knows will work to his prehistoric gameplan, and Marveaux is definitely not one of those.

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  On 18/02/2014 at 15:40, SanToon said:

The ex-Rennes star played just a cameo role but was understood to have came under fire during Alan Pardew’s post-match debrief along with Hatem Ben Arfa.

 

:anguish:

 

I'd love to know what happened here. 'Understood' is kind of worryingly vague. If true it's ludicrous obviously.

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  On 18/02/2014 at 15:52, r0cafella said:

FYI If everyone tracks backs as Pardew appears to advocate then it's very difficult for us to transition to attack as we have no attacking outlets up field

 

We know, we see it on the pitch every week. It's know as the Pardew Gameplan.

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  On 18/02/2014 at 15:37, TRon said:

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I imagine he layed into them and they both, rightly, gave it back in defending themselves. Which has now lead to a Bellamy-Souness type deal, where to the detriment of the team, Pardew's ego won't allow him to back down and admit he's in the wrong.

 

If Marv & HBA don't play i'm certain Pardew will end up getting sacked by the end of the season for two reasons. Firstly, they'll be on a combined 60-100k a week, that's a lot of value wasted to Mike. Neither will be easy to shift for good/decent money either. Secondly, we need both of them to have a decent end to the season. Without them, we are sure to get closer to the chasing pack and finish 11th again.

 

I think Pards used them when we were short in numbers, but now Tiote and Remy are back he probably feels it's safe to give them the cold shoulder again. He doesn't rate them and I doubt they rate him. Pardew will stick with the players who he knows will work to his prehistoric gameplan, and Marveaux is definitely not one of those.

 

Moussa, Tiote and Anita will struggle to create anything. We'll be in poorish form till the end of the season. Especially when moral drops.

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  On 18/02/2014 at 15:59, TRon said:

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FYI If everyone tracks backs as Pardew appears to advocate then it's very difficult for us to transition to attack as we have no attacking outlets up field

 

We know, we see it on the pitch every week. It's know as the Pardew Gameplan.

 

Is quite unbelieveable some people still need this confirmed despite what they see on the pitch every week. Not a dig at you R0cafella, you knew this already ;)

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  On 18/02/2014 at 16:20, bimpy474 said:

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FYI If everyone tracks backs as Pardew appears to advocate then it's very difficult for us to transition to attack as we have no attacking outlets up field

 

We know, we see it on the pitch every week. It's know as the Pardew Gameplan.

 

Is quite unbelieveable some people still need this confirmed despite what they see on the pitch every week. Not a dig at you R0cafella, you knew this already ;)

 

Was just putting it out their for those that don't :)

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  On 18/02/2014 at 16:23, r0cafella said:

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FYI If everyone tracks backs as Pardew appears to advocate then it's very difficult for us to transition to attack as we have no attacking outlets up field

 

We know, we see it on the pitch every week. It's know as the Pardew Gameplan.

 

Is quite unbelieveable some people still need this confirmed despite what they see on the pitch every week. Not a dig at you R0cafella, you knew this already ;)

 

Was just putting it out their for those that don't :)

 

Aye ;)

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