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Probably a good idea not starting him for this match tbh. The mackems will know how much of a threat he can be and would look to kick him all over the place over the 90 minutes, 30 minutes at the end would be ideal to aid his recovery...

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If he has been lifting i hope that doesn't effect his agility as its likely to do so if he does it incorrectly.

 

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Yep, Agbonlahor ruined himself like that, and it's not like Ben Arfa had poor body strength anyway.

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Think people are going way over the top with this putting on weight thing. Didn't seem to affect him much plus it's no surprise he doesn't look as lean as he did seeing as he's been out so long.

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Think people are going way over the top with this putting on weight thing. Didn't seem to affect him much plus it's no surprise he doesn't look as lean as he did seeing as he's been out so long.

 

Agreed, I was surprised by how good he looked last night. He's come back in the past and been miles off the pace, running the ball out etc.

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Think people are going way over the top with this putting on weight thing. Didn't seem to affect him much plus it's no surprise he doesn't look as lean as he did seeing as he's been out so long.

 

Yep. He's not exactly Shola man. He'll probably lean up again with a full offseason.

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I was just watching his cameo again , his acceleration is mesmerizing...

He seems to be sliding on the pitch , could he be the effects of his new boots cause even Marveaux who's pretty quick you can quite capture his feet's movements , but with hatem it all just become blurry  ;D

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Anyone know which silver boots he was warming up in?

 

They were made up of kitkat wrappers which he had collected over the past couple of months.

 

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Think I've found them.

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The shorter, stocky players (and Ben Arfa falls into this category) shouldn't need to hit the weights, to further strenghten their core & upper body strength. The little guys naturally have a compact, lower centre of gravity, hence they're tougher whack off the ball - they often bounce off/ride challenges better than the big physical specimens. Look at Messi & Maradona - ungainly looking, but they could both ride a tackle, especially a bump from the side/when going past a player. They were both quick off-the-mark, but they didn't have the sort of 'deep' speed which the covering defense is incapable of reeling-in, so the low-centre-of-gravity is/was a pivotal attricute to have (when dealing with secondary etc challenges). Ben Arfa is like those two, he doesn't need to bulk-up in the gym imho.

 

On the whole footballers i think have become overconditioned physically, too finely tuned. Too much time spent in the gym. They become labrats with a solid-to-excellent-to-prodigious technical ability. Admittedly some kids, like Pogba, are natural specimens - genetically blessed. Sometimes feel that training programes are geared toward producing track&field-like beasts disguised in football shirts. And high-performance athletes, like track&fielders, are prone to soft tissue niggles & tears (greater muscle mass, with their training & match-related workload = more things can go wrong/break down).

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The shorter, stocky players (and Ben Arfa falls into this category) shouldn't need to hit the weights, to further strenghten their core & upper body strength. The little guys naturally have a compact, lower centre of gravity, hence they're tougher whack off the ball - they often bounce off/ride challenges better than the big physical specimens. Look at Messi & Maradona - ungainly looking, but they could both ride a tackle, especially a bump from the side/when going past a player. They were both quick off-the-mark, but they didn't have the sort of 'deep' speed which the covering defense is incapable of reeling-in, so the low-centre-of-gravity is/was a pivotal attricute to have (when dealing with secondary etc challenges). Ben Arfa is like those two, he doesn't need to bulk-up in the gym imho.

 

On the whole footballers i think have become overconditioned physically, too finely tuned. Too much time spent in the gym. They become labrats with a solid-to-excellent-to-prodigious technical ability. Admittedly some kids, like Pogba, are natural specimens - genetically blessed. Sometimes feel that training programes are geared toward producing track&field-like beasts disguised in football shirts. And high-performance athletes, like track&fielders, are prone to soft tissue niggles & tears (greater muscle mass, with their training & match-related workload = more things can go wrong/break down).

 

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The shorter, stocky players (and Ben Arfa falls into this category) shouldn't need to hit the weights, to further strenghten their core & upper body strength. The little guys naturally have a compact, lower centre of gravity, hence they're tougher whack off the ball - they often bounce off/ride challenges better than the big physical specimens. Look at Messi & Maradona - ungainly looking, but they could both ride a tackle, especially a bump from the side/when going past a player. They were both quick off-the-mark, but they didn't have the sort of 'deep' speed which the covering defense is incapable of reeling-in, so the low-centre-of-gravity is/was a pivotal attricute to have (when dealing with secondary etc challenges). Ben Arfa is like those two, he doesn't need to bulk-up in the gym imho.

 

On the whole footballers i think have become overconditioned physically, too finely tuned. Too much time spent in the gym. They become labrats with a solid-to-excellent-to-prodigious technical ability. Admittedly some kids, like Pogba, are natural specimens - genetically blessed. Sometimes feel that training programes are geared toward producing track&field-like beasts disguised in football shirts. And high-performance athletes, like track&fielders, are prone to soft tissue niggles & tears (greater muscle mass, with their training & match-related workload = more things can go wrong/break down).

 

First bit your not far off.

 

But the second bit, oh my, what a load of bullshit.

you can discuss loss of speed, mobility e.t.c. but saying greater muscle mass = more things that can go wrong you should really read up a bit.

 

 

 

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Feels like it's said so much but this lad is a really special player, hope he manages to stay fit much better than he has in the past. There's a real buzz when he's on the ball, he's capable of something out of nothing which is absolutely priceless for the way we operate as a team.

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It's mental how things have changed for him as just over a year ago the amount of stick the lad got when returning from serious injury was absolutely pathetic. Especially those that sat around me at the match. Then after the Sunderland match the way they went on was "oh I've always had faith in him", "knew he would be amazing for us" compared to the Wolves game when it was "what a lazy kernt", "greedy bastard we need to get rid".

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